I don't get migraines often and they are usually not severe, just
occasionally. More to the point of the moment, I get migraines without
headaches occasionally. For the third time ever, about noon today, I
suddenly got an aura, a crescent shaped visual disturbance with jagged
patterns. The other two times I had this happen I didn't know what it was
and it dissipated after a while. This time it came on suddenly and was
accompanied by other sensations that I have learned to recognize as meaning
to head for the medicine cabinet. My problem was that since I have been
taking methotrexate for a couple of years I have not had this happen and I
didn't know which of the two medicines I keep on hand might interfere. I
have Maxalt and fiorinol. If I get it just coming on the Maxalt will
usually stop it cold, otherwise a fiorinol or two will just put me nicely to
sleep and I will usually wake up in an hour or two feeling great.
So I called the rheumy who, it turned out, had gone to lunch early and
wouldn't be back until 2 and did I want to talk to the nurse? Well, yes I
did and that took some ten minutes before she realized what the problem was
and did I want to talk to the doctor on call? Well yes, and by this time
the call had taken some fifteen minutes while I was standing there with the
aura sparkling all around and dreaded migraine bearing down on me like a
locomotive. So, of course, the line went dead. Rather than go through it
all again I took the Maxalt and went to bed. In an hour or so the aura had
vanished and the headache seemed to be no longer threatening so I got on the
trusty computer and started looking for drug interactions.
From what I could find on Medline, after registering for the site, the
Maxalt was the better choice, there being some sort of problem with fiorinol
and methotrexate although it is dosage related and the problem seems to come
in at higher dosages.
So all is well, except, does anyone happen to know about this matter of
migraine medications and arthritis medications or know a good general source
of information?
ANN M - 13 Mar 2008 15:25 GMT
My migraines sound the same as yours, aura first and if not caught in
time, the headache, etc.
I would suggest asking a pharmacist about the drug interactions and the
best thing to use in your case. They often are good sources of
information.
Ann
Donna G. - 13 Mar 2008 18:23 GMT
Are these what are called ocular migraines?
Also, if you start getting ocular migraines, will you eventually get
regular migraines?
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d'huit - 13 Mar 2008 19:24 GMT
Are these what are called ocular migraines?
Also, if you start getting ocular migraines, will you eventually get
regular migraines?
***yes. they are called ocular migraines. i get them, too and have since i
was in my twenties. btw, ocular migraines are caused by a restriction of
blood vessels in the eyes.
i'm a little confused by your second question, donnag, so i'll answer it two
ways:
if you start to get "an" ocular migraine, it doesn't necessarily mean that a
headache will follow that particular episode.
if you episodically/occassionally get ocular migraines, there's a good
likelihood that at least some of these episodes will result in headaches.
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Pope Pie (Sy Lehrman) - 13 Mar 2008 20:26 GMT
> Are these what are called ocular migraines?
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> if you episodically/occassionally get ocular migraines, there's a good
> likelihood that at least some of these episodes will result in headaches.
Apparently there are a lot of people who get various symptoms of migraine
and do not get the headaches. I have had auras before without any headache
and in retrospect I have had some of the other common symptoms such as a
feeling of unreality or being somehow not quite in the world, which is hard
to describe but for which there is a Latinate name. If you just get the
aura and do not get the headache there is apparently nothing to worry about,
it is just a problem if you want to drive or read a book. What happened to
me yesterday was that the aura came on with the other symptoms and quite
quickly, which left me feeling like a guy in the middle of the train
tracks. When I taught school, on the other hand, it took me a long time to
recognize the onset and that often led to conflict with staff or students so
I learned just to declare to the front office that I was getting one and
leaving. They didn't like it but they found it pointless to argue. For me
the giveaway symptom was that someone would say something to me like, "Where
is the paper?" and it would take a while to figure out what that meant and
by the time I figured that out someone would be saying something else that I
couldn't quite figure out either. It is really funny to recall because you
probably seem to be such an idiot looking puzzled over the simple question
of a little child who is, as likely as not, clinging to your leg and wanting
something.
Nann Bell - 14 Mar 2008 15:04 GMT
My mom gets ocular migraines that are much milder - flashing lights on the
periphery of her vision for a few seconds. She doesn't even feel te ned to
pull over when/if it happens while driving. She was assured by the docs that
it won't lead to full-blown headache-type migraines. My sister and I both
get the latter infrequently, though it's been quite a wile since I've had
one. (crossing my fingers....)

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> Are these what are called ocular migraines?
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Nann Bell - 14 Mar 2008 03:40 GMT
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 0:16:41 -0500, Pope Pie \(Sy Lehrman\) wrote
(in message <dN2Cj.47174$kp6.14733@newsfe07.phx>):
> So all is well, except, does anyone happen to know about this matter of
> migraine medications and arthritis medications or know a good general source
> of information?
Pharmacists tend to be faster and possibly more reliable sources of drug
interaction info. I say call your pharmacist.

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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 14 Mar 2008 04:24 GMT
My heart goes out to you! I used to get migraines, but wasn't on so much
medication then. Also, I had a chiropractor who managed to stop the
migraines. I haven't had one for years (looking for wood to knock on). Hang
in there. I think I'd call the pharmacist. LOTS less people to get through
before you talk with the person who knows. My pharmacist is always available
right away.
Feel better - DeeTee
>I don't get migraines often and they are usually not severe, just
>occasionally. More to the point of the moment, I get migraines without
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> migraine medications and arthritis medications or know a good general
> source of information?