Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / March 2008
Lidoderm Patches?
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Califchief - 05 Mar 2008 03:00 GMT Donna wrote and asked:
> How many of you use these or have used them? > Did they work for you? How effective do you think they are over all? I've used them for 5 years.
They work great (when I remember to apply them). They are very effective.
I generally shower at 4PM, apply 2 or 3 on the legs at 6PM, and they work very, very well during my square dances. I can leave them on overnight and remove them at 6AM -- quite a restful night's sleep.
I'll apply them before a long trip (San Jose for example). The legs don't become sore and tired as often, and Mary doesn't have to make too many stops to stretch and walk.
> Do they just relieve the pain on the area you put the patch, and don't > leave you with any drowsy feeling or drugged up feeling like oral pain > meds? Are they generally covered by insurance? Pros / Cons you'd > like to share??? They seem to work a short distance from the applied area(s).
NO!, they don't leave you drowsy or drugged - they're not that kind of medicine.
My insurance covers them -- $9 co-pay for a $287 package.
You can wear a maximim of 3 for 12 hours, then must go 12 hours without. They cannot be re-applied if removed (for example for a shower). Plan your day/evening around the hours you'll have them on.
Some day I'm going to ask my rheumy if I can wear 2 for 18 hours.
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Donna G. - 05 Mar 2008 08:45 GMT For those of you who use these on moveable/bendable parts, do they stay on your knee or hip or elbow or whatever pretty well?
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Harvey R. Stone - 05 Mar 2008 12:59 GMT IMO,,,, not without tape. Harv
> For those of you who use these on moveable/bendable parts, do they stay > on your knee or hip or elbow or whatever pretty well? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > 2.) J.K.M.A. Walt Hanks - 05 Mar 2008 13:19 GMT I agree. But that does seem to vary by individual. The adhesive on the patches seems to work on some people better than it works on others. You will have to experiment.
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> IMO,,,, not without tape. > Harv [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> 2.) J.K.M.A. Navy - 05 Mar 2008 21:18 GMT I have many problems with adhesive items. Any bandage I apply must be removed and replaced, if necessary, by application in a different direction. I had a bad breakout a couple of years ago when they applied the tape over that brown stuff they sterilize with and it stayed on for twelve hours. After it came off, I developed a bad rash that took six months to clear up. At the right angle of light, I can still see what appears to be scarred surface in the area. Now, I tell them to be sure to clean off the brown stuff before applying any tape, specifying paper tape. For that reason, I don't even consider trying the adhesive patches. My mom tried one on her knee and lost skin removing the patch.
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>I agree. But that does seem to vary by individual. The adhesive on the >patches seems to work on some people better than it works on others. You [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>> >>> 2.) J.K.M.A. Joan Carter - 05 Mar 2008 21:47 GMT >I have many problems with adhesive items. Any bandage I apply must be >removed and replaced, if necessary, by application in a different direction. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >don't even consider trying the adhesive patches. My mom tried one on her >knee and lost skin removing the patch. There are skin protectants that can be used before applying tape. I react to several and at times my PT is going to tape my knee or ankle I take along some skin protectant to put on first. I am a redhead and most tapes and my skin don't get along too well.
There are skin protectants without alcohol, some contain it, so it's good to check that out.
Joan
Jean - 06 Mar 2008 02:46 GMT I have one on the top of my foot right now. They work great for me and as someone else said, when I need them I wear it for 12 hours on and 12 hours off. I've never had any problems removing them.
Good luck,
Jean
Donna G. - 06 Mar 2008 04:23 GMT Wow, I never realized there were so many here that used these patches. I so appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and I definintely think I am going to ask my RD about them next week!
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ziggy - 06 Mar 2008 10:36 GMT Hi Donna, I want to thank yo0u for starting this thread. I hadn't thought much about these in the past, but now they sound like just the ticket for my lower back ache. Does anyone know if you can apply them on your butt when dealing with someone who's a "pain in the a.s?!" GaryZ
> Wow, I never realized there were so many here that used these patches. > I so appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and I definintely [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > 2.) J.K.M.A. Harvey R. Stone - 06 Mar 2008 15:12 GMT > Hi Donna, > I want to thank yo0u for starting this thread. I hadn't thought much about [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > someone who's a "pain in the a.s?!" > GaryZ You know you have to lighten up when you remind a person that they did not put on their patch today.
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Donna G. - 06 Mar 2008 18:47 GMT ROFLMAO!!! Gary, you are just too funny!!!
I hope the patches will work for you back and bring you a bit of relief. I am definitely going to be asking my RD about these, especially for my L knee. I am excited about hearing everything every one has shared about these patches.
I have to give credit where credit is due though. Joanne B (our new poster) was the one that got me thinking about these patches when she shared with me in private email what she was doing for her knees. I got curious about them, thus posted the question here.
Thanks, Joanne B, for the intial info and thanks to everyone who has so generously shared their experiences with these patches. Always good to find alternative ways of dealing with things!!!
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Rose - 07 Mar 2008 12:59 GMT > Would be nice if they worked on hands. Afraid that I use my hands too much for them to keep on sticking. But, I am going to remember them; would have never thought of them, except for this list.
Thanks for the idea.
Did get some of those arthritis heat wraps for hands, then realized (CVS brand) that wouldn't go around the thumbs, So haven't even tried them yet.
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> > Hi Donna, > > I want to thank yo0u for starting this thread. I hadn't thought much about [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > SomBodyElse Gary Z - 07 Mar 2008 14:29 GMT I called into my pcp to see if he would rx over the phone for me, or if I had to make an appt. with him to discuss getting these patches. Nurse called yesterday after hours and the patches are waiting for me at the drug store. He says 1 patch at a time for 9 hrs. I was hoping I could use 2, one on each side of my lumbar. I guess I'll try one centered and see if it covers enough area. If these work for me, and if I'm allowed to golf, I may be able to use the patch instead of vicodin when I play. I see the neurosurgeon next wed. to discuss my options with my back. garyz
> Hi Donna, > I want to thank yo0u for starting this thread. I hadn't thought much about [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> 2.) J.K.M.A. Harvey R. Stone - 07 Mar 2008 15:14 GMT >I called into my pcp to see if he would rx over the phone for me, or if I >had to make an appt. with him to discuss getting these patches. Nurse [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >neurosurgeon next wed. to discuss my options with my back. > garyz Hi Gary,,,, A question for your neurosurgeon,,,,, if I use these patches when I play golf will they allow me to hurt myself or worsen my condition?
Harv
Nann Bell - 06 Mar 2008 04:48 GMT > I have many problems with adhesive items. Any bandage I apply must be > removed and replaced, if necessary, by application in a different direction. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > don't even consider trying the adhesive patches. My mom tried one on her > knee and lost skin removing the patch. Yowza! I must say I am very glad I don't have that problem. It must be a real hassle in dealing with cuts, scrapes and wounds.
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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 05 Mar 2008 15:38 GMT They do on me, but that's me. As Walt says, it varies from one person to the next.
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> For those of you who use these on moveable/bendable parts, do they stay > on your knee or hip or elbow or whatever pretty well? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > 2.) J.K.M.A. Califchief - 06 Mar 2008 02:00 GMT Donna wrote and asked:
> For those of you who use these on moveable/bendable parts, do > they stay on your knee or hip or elbow or whatever pretty well? I occassionally use one on the kneecap and never had a problem, not even when dancing. I've worn them on my shoulder, draped over an arm, and never had one come loose.
After reading over replies, I began to wonder if hair, or the lack of it, affects the patches' adhesion.
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