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shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 27 Feb 2008 03:36 GMT
I have a friend who has a six year old daughter who's father gets
weekend visitation twice a month.  We found out this weekend that the
child  (can't do names here, guys) has been being not just molested
but violently sexually assaulted for as much as two years.  The dad
threatened to kill the mom if the child told.  We reported to CPS the
next morning (I am a mandatory reporter and was the person the child
started telling this whole story to.)  We have been jumping through
hoops for the last two days with no CPS interview, the sheriff's dep.
basically telling the mother that kids fantasize and he wouldn't be to
concerned.  We took her to her pediatrician today and she has been
repeatedly sexually assaulted-no ambiguity or doubt  The pediatrician
called CPS.  Still nothing but disdain from the sheriff  (my friends
are all Santa Cruz PD, not sheriffs and they just don't have
jurisdiction.  We've have filed for an emergency TRO and it has not
yet been granted.  They are staying with me right now and I fear that
they are in very grave danger.  I have a friend who is retired special
forces who is staying here with us but he can only stay here very
short term. What I need are prayers that both mom and child will
recover from this, and that we can keep the child away from the dad.

I know this is s strange thing to bring to the group for prayer but
normal channels are not working a all.  My friend is a single mom who
works as a hairdresser and barely makes ends meet and can't take her
kid and go into hiding for an extended period of time.

I just can't understand why our CPS dept won't even do an interview.
We have been in contact with every group (survivors center womens
crisis support, a women's center connected with the U that works with
survivors.  No one can figure out why the lack of concern.

I am just feeling such a loss of respect for the system.  We should be
able to report, document, stop the offender and get on with the
healing process.  instead we are all just devestated by the lack of
concern, the sexist langueage and attitudes they have all exibited.
This is bot about me but I feel like I have been hit by a truck-I
can't imagine how horrible my friend is feeling.  There is just no
help of hope here.

Our CPS department refused to do an investigation a few years ago and
two kids died from their lack of action.

So prayers please to keep this baby girl alive and safe and then some
healing would be nice.

m
Carole - 27 Feb 2008 03:50 GMT
Prayers being said, M. I don't understand the system either. It's
supposed to protect people.

Carole
Diane - 27 Feb 2008 03:50 GMT
melinda, i'm stunned by the lack of response on the part of cps and
all authorities given the evidence and clear threat to this mother and
child. . .and i worry, to you as well, since they're with you. In the
years i worked as a social worker in CA (san diego), i saw, if
anything, an overreaction (if there is such a thing) on the part of
CPS to keep kids sake. if anyone would know the channels to go through
to get some action, it would be you. the only thought i have is
contacting the closest children's hospital where there's a child abuse
team. they have a lot of credibility and the constant ear of the
police.

meanwhile, prayers coming for this little girl.

diane
Joan Carter - 27 Feb 2008 04:04 GMT
>Our CPS department refused to do an investigation a few years ago and
>two kids died from their lack of action.
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>So prayers please to keep this baby girl alive and safe and then some
>healing would be nice.

Oh my God, Melinda, how terrible. Here's hoping for a fast
resolution to this. There is so much of this stuff that goes on.

Joan
Donna G. - 27 Feb 2008 04:27 GMT
M.,

Prayers being said and a candle being lit!!!

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Nann Bell - 27 Feb 2008 04:31 GMT
I'm stunned to hear that parts of this country are still so blatantly
ignorant of how to handle a child sexual abuse report.  The mother and child
are definitely in my prayers, as well as the whole situation.  

The only other avenue i can think of is to call your elected state
legislators.  CPS is generally a state agency and a call to a higher up
supervisor by a state senator might get some attention.  For that matter,
call the US legislators also.  The more pressure put on CPS, the better.

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Donna G. - 27 Feb 2008 05:22 GMT
Light A Candle
Address:http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/view.cfm?l=eng&c=5424930

I lit a candle here at this site for this situation.   I put my initials
(dg) along with a group name of ASA if you would care to add on to it or
create your own!

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1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
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Carole - 27 Feb 2008 07:17 GMT
> Light A Candle
> Address:http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/view.cfm?l=eng&c=5424930
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> I lit a candle here at this site for this situation.   I put my initials
> (dg) along with a group name of ASA if you would care to add on to it or
> create your own!

Thanks, Donna. I lit one and said a special prayer for them as well.

Carole
shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 27 Feb 2008 07:27 GMT
> Light A Candle
> Address:http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/view.cfm?l=eng&c=5424930
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thanks Donna and all,
what a powerful and coforting website,

m
Kelly - 27 Feb 2008 18:48 GMT
what a great site Donna.  I lit a candle for the family.

M - please keep yourself safe as well!  Post regularly so we don't get
worried.  Remember the first thing about first aid, aid in any way is to
keep yourself safe as there is nothing that can be done in the situation if
the aider is hurt.

Kelly

> Light A Candle
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Kelly C. - 27 Feb 2008 04:54 GMT
*ugh*

I feel too heartsick to even think clearly about this right now.

Prayers, love, hugs, and all the positive energy I can send is being sent
right now for that precious child and her mother.

I won't tell you what the negative energy is doing. It's best not to dwell
on that too much. It's so easy to let it drown out the good.

Kelly C.

>I have a friend who has a six year old daughter who's father gets
> weekend visitation twice a month.  We found out this weekend that the
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jofirey - 27 Feb 2008 05:15 GMT
>I have a friend who has a six year old daughter who's father gets
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> m

Prayers of course.

You confirm my feeling that sheriff's departments often don't seem to be
held as accountable as police departments.

Are you or is anyone you know in a position to go directly to state?  I'm
thinking the office of the attorney general is where you go when police
matters aren't being dealt with locally.  Don't know about children's
services.

Or can the mother and child at least go to another jurisdiction and report
again.  If both parents are in the same jurisdiction, it is easier for the
authorities to get away with inaction.  Perhaps you could refer them to
counseling with someone else who would also be required to report, just not
to the same people.

Then there is the hypothetical option to have someone beat the hell out of
the father.  Something I actually considered once upon a time.  The subject
moved before I could find someone who wasn't already in jail for assault.

Jo
RoseB - 27 Feb 2008 05:20 GMT
i do not understand this system. That is very scary.

My thoughts and prayers are with this family.
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Squirrely - 27 Feb 2008 05:27 GMT
Prayers coming that way.
I don't get it M. others that don't do that get hounded by CPS so why don't
they protect this little one. This is terrible.

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Harvey R. Stone - 27 Feb 2008 13:25 GMT
Hi M,,,,,   The people involved have been prayed for.    The people in this
newsgroup that need support for arthritis have been prayed for.    No
warning, no OTP just wham,,, reading about child abuse and a little girl
being abused over and over.    I hope the rest of my day improves but there
is no place to go but up.
     You did the right thing by doing what you could to find justice for
the abused and taking them in.  I have just said a prayer that the stress of
all this is not hard on you as far as dealing with inflam.arth and these
kind of problems.
Harv

>I have a friend who has a six year old daughter who's father gets
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ANN M - 27 Feb 2008 16:53 GMT
This site should bring you to the attorney general child protection
dept.
They are obligated to investigate under several laws including the Adam
Walsh Act of 2007.

http://www.ag.ca.gov/childabuse/contact.php

Ann
Harvey R. Stone - 27 Feb 2008 13:34 GMT
I have one other thought to say about this.    Why did the mother not
put a stop to this a long time ago?   Why does a stranger have to take the
steps needed to find justice for the little girl?   The answer to that might
help others that have the same type problem.

Harv

>I have a friend who has a six year old daughter who's father gets
> weekend visitation twice a month.  We found out this weekend that the
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Walt Hanks - 27 Feb 2008 14:23 GMT
It is hard for me to imagine CPS doing nothing after the pediatrician's
report.  They are required by law to do an investigation.

If you don't hear from them by noon today, start calling all the way up the
food chain.  Call an attorney ASAP.  Call the DA directly.  Call the media
if you have to.  Did he ever take the daughter across state lines?  If so,
call the FBI.

This just really pisses me off.  Please update us as you find out more.

Thank you for being there for this family.  You are an angel.  Prayers have
been said and will continue to be said.

Walt

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ANN M - 27 Feb 2008 14:30 GMT
Do you have a state police department that would supercede the sheriff's
department?
The attorney general's office should be interested in this also.  Do you
have a state advocate for victims of domestic abuse?  As a last resort I
would call a tv station or newspaper and promise them exclusive rights
to the story after criminal investigation has been completed.  How about
calling the governor's office and your representatives?  The local aid
to dependent children and family (welfare) office should have someone
they can refer you to.  What kind of world are we livhng in where you
can't get someone to listen when a child is being brutalized?  I am
furious, but will pray when I calm down.
Harvey R. Stone - 27 Feb 2008 15:37 GMT
> Do you have a state police department that would supercede the sheriff's
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> can't get someone to listen when a child is being brutalized?  I am
> furious, but will pray when I calm down.

Hi Ann,,,, This kind of fury can be very harmful to yourself.   There is no
way to unload this kind of fury and it effects your immune system.   We all
feel bad for the wife and child and angry that it is so hard to struggle in
the system to get justice.   I have taken people in while the right thing is
found to handle the problem and most of the time it is the police.   I have
a wife and four children and my biggest problem was to not let the problem
effect them.   I want you to realize that M is doing what she can do to
protect and get help for the people in her house.   Our anger does not help
anyone.
Harv
Alex B., - 27 Feb 2008 15:33 GMT
Sending Good Thoughts,
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sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 27 Feb 2008 19:01 GMT
Oh that breaks my heart.  Poor child, and poor mama.  Think how that child
has suffered and think ow the mama is suffering knowing about it only now.
Prayers ongoing for the child and mama ( and you) and for the sheriff's
department to get off its duff and do what it is supposed to do.  I can't
imagaine why the unconcern on their part.  Oh dear Lord, keep that child
(and mama) safe, and Melinda.
Gwen

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Navy - 27 Feb 2008 19:13 GMT
Prayers and hugs for you and the family.

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