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Navy - 23 Feb 2008 21:22 GMT
Went to the podiatrist Thursday afternoon and he tells me I have Morton's
Neuromas in both feet.  No wonder I felt like I was walking on lumps under
my toes.  He gave me a shot in each foot.  We shall see if that has a long
lasting effect.  Darn, thought I had had my share - is it up to 15 different
medical problems now?

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Walt Hanks - 23 Feb 2008 22:21 GMT
Morton's neuromas are very common with inflammatory arthritis.  They form
because the inflammed synovium around the metatarsal heads rub against the
nerve and iritate it.  The nerve starts forming tissue to protect itself,
but eventually grows too big.  I've had several.

Conservative treatment includes treating the arthritis to reduce the
irritation, injecting the neuroma (not just the surrounding tissue - should
really hurt for a while), and using a metatarsal bar to spread the
metatarsal heads while you walk.  If none of that works, the neuromas can be
removed fairly easily, but you lose feeling in the affected toes.

So, you really don't have to add to the count.  This is just another
complication of your arthritis, not a seperate pathology.

Hope that helps.

Walt

> Went to the podiatrist Thursday afternoon and he tells me I have Morton's
> Neuromas in both feet.  No wonder I felt like I was walking on lumps under
> my toes.  He gave me a shot in each foot.  We shall see if that has a long
> lasting effect.  Darn, thought I had had my share - is it up to 15
> different medical problems now?
Harvey R. Stone - 24 Feb 2008 01:53 GMT
Its good to have you posting again Walt.   Your reply read much like what a
doctor would say but really,,,,, it  is what you have lived with.
Harv

> Morton's neuromas are very common with inflammatory arthritis.  They form
> because the inflammed synovium around the metatarsal heads rub against the
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>> a long lasting effect.  Darn, thought I had had my share - is it up to 15
>> different medical problems now?
Navy - 24 Feb 2008 14:49 GMT
I appreciate the information.  I actually hadn't heard of them before.
Darn, can't add to the count, just the complications.  I go back to the
podiatrist in about three weeks, so we will see where we go from there.  The
information that you gave me is the same as I got off the Internet.  My
second and third toe on both feet have been numb for quite a while.  They
feel better now that he has put a shot of cortisone in.  At least I can have
the cortisone shots, even though I can't take the prednisone pills.

How are you doing, Walt?

Navy
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> Morton's neuromas are very common with inflammatory arthritis.  They form
> because the inflammed synovium around the metatarsal heads rub against the
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>> a long lasting effect.  Darn, thought I had had my share - is it up to 15
>> different medical problems now?
Walt Hanks - 24 Feb 2008 18:30 GMT
>I appreciate the information.  I actually hadn't heard of them before.
>Darn, can't add to the count, just the complications.  I go back to the
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> Navy

I am doing OK for the moment.  As long as I get me Humira shot every week, I
do OK.  My blood sugars are good and my vision isn't too bad now, so a good
time overall I guess.

Walt
Nann Bell - 24 Feb 2008 02:35 GMT
((((((((((((((Navy)))))))))))))  i haven't had to deal with those yet, but
have heard how uncomfortable they are from others.  Here's hoping the
conservative treatments do the trick for you!

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vickie b. - 24 Feb 2008 03:03 GMT
I was diagnosed with these years before RA.  I finally had one of them
removed and regret it.  I had learned to deal with the pain.  But
after surgery I had a stump neroma in the same place.  It is more
painful and strikes at inconvenient times.  I have one in my other
foot but won't consider surgery for this reason.

(Yes, they do surgery to remove the stump but why?)

Just my .0002,

Vickie B.

(((((navy)))))
Squirrely - 24 Feb 2008 05:03 GMT
Oh Navy sorry to hear this. i hope all works out for you to get better with
some of these and soon.

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> Went to the podiatrist Thursday afternoon and he tells me I have Morton's
> Neuromas in both feet.  No wonder I felt like I was walking on lumps under
> my toes.  He gave me a shot in each foot.  We shall see if that has a long
> lasting effect.  Darn, thought I had had my share - is it up to 15
> different medical problems now?
d'huit - 25 Feb 2008 22:29 GMT
Went to the podiatrist Thursday afternoon and he tells me I have Morton's
Neuromas in both feet.  No wonder I felt like I was walking on lumps under
my toes.  He gave me a shot in each foot.  We shall see if that has a long
lasting effect.  Darn, thought I had had my share - is it up to 15 different
medical problems now?

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well, that's not fun!  here's hoping the injections do the trick for you.

 15?  bummer.  how come you didn't get into our return line, loujean? ;-)

kate

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Donna G. - 26 Feb 2008 03:36 GMT
oh, ewwwww, the thought of getting injections into the bottom of my
feet---whoa that just makes me cringe and want to run away!!!   Sounds
so painful!

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Kelly - 26 Feb 2008 05:56 GMT
Yup that says it.  when the rd injected for my plantar fasciitis he said it
is the most painful he gives.  He had his nurse sort of hold me and gave me
her hand to grip.  He wasn't kidding.  The shots the general practitioner
gave me (and he gives great cortisone) for plantar didn't hurt as much but
they were painful and didn't work as well - weren't quite in the right spot.

I am going for the insoles and hoping the rituxan will decrease my need for
the shots for the morton's neuroma. This is sort of a new area of bad
inflammation.  Does exactly feel like the lumps under the feet.

Other than that I am on day 5 of 7.5 mg.  Decided to try one more large dose
decrease and so far it isn't as bad as it has been in the past which
means......tada.....that I think the side effects of the rituxan have
finally past.  So it is now your turn Donna! I pass the baton to you!

Kelly

> oh, ewwwww, the thought of getting injections into the bottom of my
> feet---whoa that just makes me cringe and want to run away!!!   Sounds
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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 26 Feb 2008 18:32 GMT
I've had those shots in both feet and both hips. Give me the hips anyday.
The feet are SO painful to have injected. However, the relief is
unbelievable when you get through the cortisone shot. Hope you're feeling
better soon.

DeeTee

> Yup that says it.  when the rd injected for my plantar fasciitis he said
> it is the most painful he gives.  He had his nurse sort of hold me and
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Navy - 27 Feb 2008 19:39 GMT
I had the shots in the tops of the feet and I don't remember them being too
bad at all.  Maybe it's the artistry of the doctor.  I did have one in my
heel once that was agony going in, but it did the job after they scraped me
off the ceiling!  LOL

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> I've had those shots in both feet and both hips. Give me the hips anyday.
> The feet are SO painful to have injected. However, the relief is
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sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 27 Feb 2008 19:51 GMT
Navy, I definitely think it is the artistry of the doctor.  My orthopedist
gave me a shot in each shoulder and they really, really hurt, and I had the
biggest bruise on one shoulder.  However later my RD gave me one in one of
the shoulders and it barely hurt.  And when he puts them in my neck, he puts
the cold stuff on it and puts the shot in as he stops the cold stuff, and I
barely feel it.  I love my orthopedist, but he doesn't even compare to my RD
in giving shots.
Gwen

>I had the shots in the tops of the feet and I don't remember them being too
>bad at all.  Maybe it's the artistry of the doctor.  I did have one in my
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Navy - 28 Feb 2008 02:24 GMT
Most of the painless (or moderately so) shots have been given while they
were spraying the cold stuff.  I agree, though, the key is in the artistry
of the doctor.

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> Navy, I definitely think it is the artistry of the doctor.  My orthopedist
> gave me a shot in each shoulder and they really, really hurt, and I had
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Donna G. - 29 Feb 2008 00:51 GMT
Gwen, I'm with you!   My RD also uses that cold spray and I rarely feel
his injections at all.  My pcp is a whole nother story.  He gave me an
injection in my knee and wow, I thought I was going to have to be peeled
off the ceiling that injection was sooooo painful.  He has only done two
injections into joints on me, and both of them, even with the cold
spray, were quite painful and left big bruises.  My ortho guy is kind of
somewhere in between the other two.  I'll take the RD any day!!!

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Navy - 27 Feb 2008 19:37 GMT
Actually, the first step is the shots in the top of the foot.  I have had a
shot in my heel and I know it is hold me down mom type of pain.  It's almost
easier to suffer through the original pain, except you know the pain from
the shot will go away after a bit.

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Navy - 27 Feb 2008 19:35 GMT
They told me I couldn't have more than that the last time I was in the
newsgroup a couple of years ago before my newsreader crashed.  LOL  They
said 10 serious and 5 minor ones.

Actually, since I lost 25 pounds, the pain is a lot less.  I still get
spasms in my back if I stand too long (five minutes or longer) -
fortunately, I can sit down and they will calm down.  I read about all the
things you people all have and I feel like I've not qualified yet for the
group.  It sounds strange, I know, but I was fortunate enough in that most
of my pain and stuff is controllable for right now.

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> Went to the podiatrist Thursday afternoon and he tells me I have Morton's
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> different
> medical problems now?
Harvey R. Stone - 27 Feb 2008 20:13 GMT
> They told me I couldn't have more than that the last time I was in the
> newsgroup a couple of years ago before my newsreader crashed.  LOL  They
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> group.  It sounds strange, I know, but I was fortunate enough in that most
> of my pain and stuff is controllable for right now.

And we rejoice in the facts above,,,, it is not a qualifier for the
newsgroup.  You need to be here for a dozen reasons.   There is no pain that
is worse than what takes place with a persons back.   I have had enough of
it to know that I am blessed that mine got better and calmed down.   Of
coarse,,, I take care of my back and do things different now.
Controllable is a word we strive for.
Harv

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