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Califchief - 10 Jan 2008 09:00 GMT
Carole wrote:
 
> Or if anyone knows of another plan that would be good for
> me since I'm on disability, please let me know.

If your income and assets are low enough, you may qualify
for Medicare.  That covers medical/dental/meds.

... Complexes are the complexity of modern day civiiaztion.
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Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. - 10 Jan 2008 16:07 GMT
Here in Missouri Medicaid (I think that's what you meant) usually will pay
for the tooth to be extracted when you are eligible for it with the income
guidelines, etc.  It will pay for almost nothing in the way of preventatives
or cleanings or fillings, etc.  I also have Delta Dental thru retired
military.  Funny- our premiums for either plan are higher than what you
quoted.  We had the basic plan and cancelled it- it really paid for nothing
but the cleaning once a year.  Now we're on the better plan- we'll see how
that goes.  One dumb thing with Delta- if you require a filling and it's not
on one of the very front teeth they will only pay for a "silver" filling.
My dentist said he hasn't been able to buy the material for those things for
years now.  It isn't available!  So Delta has an out on all fillings but the
very front teeth- since all fillings are the white stuff!  (Aren't I just a
wonder with dentist-type terminology?  LOL)

Leslie

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> ... Complexes are the complexity of modern day civiiaztion.
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ANN M - 10 Jan 2008 19:30 GMT
Leslie:  My Delta covers silver filling also but they will pay the
amount of that coverage and then I pay the difference for a "white" one.
I think your coverage would do the same.  If someone only has cleanings
and no problems, I don't think the coverage is worth the premiums but it
worked well for part of last year for me and I will use it all this year
too.
Ann
Carole - 10 Jan 2008 20:11 GMT
> Leslie:  My Delta covers silver filling also but they will pay the
> amount of that coverage and then I pay the difference for a "white" one.
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> too.
> Ann

I thought they banned those silver fillings ages ago????
ANN M - 10 Jan 2008 21:26 GMT
Carole:   The silver (amalgam) has a bit of mercury in them and there
was a flap some time ago about it but never was banned.  They are
stonger than the white fillings according to my newest dentist.  I have
one tooth filled with silver and that's the one that needs a crown
before it falls apart completely.  The previous composite filling in it
would not hold.
Ann
Carole - 10 Jan 2008 22:23 GMT
>  Carole:   The silver (amalgam) has a bit of mercury in them and there
> was a flap some time ago about it but never was banned.  They are
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> would not hold.
> Ann  

Ah, OK. I remember the flap about the silver fillings.  I don't mind
silver in the back teeth, but I have bonding on my front teeth (due to
crappy work done by a dentist in my younger days), and the bonding needs
to be redone as it's all discolored and looks yucky. And now that I'm
getting thinner, I'd like to be able to smile more :)

Carole
jofirey - 11 Jan 2008 03:14 GMT
>>  Carole:   The silver (amalgam) has a bit of mercury in them and there
>> was a flap some time ago about it but never was banned.  They are
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>
> Carole

I can't help but wonder.  Once upon a time, a really good dentist could
match any repairs to the front teeth to your natural tooth color.  And most
people had a tooth color.  What happens now that blinding white seems to be
the required color for human teeth, no mater what nature had in mind.  Does
everyone have to get their dental work redone to match their now dazzling
teeth?  It they get ultra white work done on their teeth, does it discolor
at the same rate as their own ivory?

Anyone else think its ridiculous that all actors now, regardless of the age,
era, or socioeconomic class of the character they play. have whites way
whiter than pearls?

Its almost as silly as watching the westerns made in the fifties and
sixties.  Where the women are in period costume, but obviously wearing mid
twentieth century underwear.  And the men's clothes are never dirty or worn
out.

It hasn't been so many years ago that many more folks wore dentures.  If
they had been the color that now seems to be required for teeth, everyone
would have made fun of them.

Jo
Carole - 11 Jan 2008 07:05 GMT
> I can't help but wonder.  Once upon a time, a really good dentist could
> match any repairs to the front teeth to your natural tooth color.  And most
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> teeth?  It they get ultra white work done on their teeth, does it discolor
> at the same rate as their own ivory?

I remember the dentist having little samples of different shades of
ivory. When I was younger I had a cavity in my front tooth. The dentist
put some while filling in it. You could tell it was a filling as it
didn't match. Then every time it fell out, more of the tooth came with
it. I finally switched dentists and the new dentist did bonding. I
couldn't believe the difference in the way it looked. You do have to
have it redone every so many years though and I've had this since 1997
so it's more than time :)

> Anyone else think its ridiculous that all actors now, regardless of the age,
> era, or socioeconomic class of the character they play. have whites way
> whiter than pearls?

They all have those lumineer thingees. And if you look closely, it's
only American actors. Actors in the UK do not get their teeth done the
way they do over here. I'm always amazed when I watch my English
comedies and my favorite soap, Coronation Street. In England if you have
crooked teeth, they are considered to have character. Over here everyone
has to be bloody perfect.  My teeth do have character, they are just
falling apart :)

Carole
Nann Bell - 11 Jan 2008 14:56 GMT
> I can't help but wonder.  Once upon a time, a really good dentist could
> match any repairs to the front teeth to your natural tooth color.  And most
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> teeth?  It they get ultra white work done on their teeth, does it discolor
> at the same rate as their own ivory?

They still match the color, but I don't know what they do if you get
bleaching to keep them white.  Probably you end up getting veneers through
the years.  Composite fillings and crowns do NOT bleach as natural tooth
enamal does.  They also stain readily, especially from coffee and tea (says
the coffee addict with much dental work!)

> Anyone else think its ridiculous that all actors now, regardless of the age,
> era, or socioeconomic class of the character they play. have whites way
> whiter than pearls?
Amen!!!!!  Saw something recently that was more realistic - forget what it
was though.  It was wonderful not to have blinding white teeth distracting
you all  the time!  LOL

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Nann Bell - 11 Jan 2008 14:56 GMT
>  One dumb thing with Delta- if you require a filling and it's not
> on one of the very front teeth they will only pay for a "silver" filling.
> My dentist said he hasn't been able to buy the material for those things for
> years now.  It isn't available!  So Delta has an out on all fillings but the
> very front teeth- since all fillings are the white stuff!  (Aren't I just a
> wonder with dentist-type terminology?  LOL)

The silver, or amalgam, fillings (guess whose husband used to work dental
boards!) are much better for back teeth that take the pressure of chewing.  
There was widespread enthusiasm for the composite (white) fillings initially,
but it turned out they leak around the edges under the pressure of extensive
chewing.  So, believe it or not, Delta is taking the best course.

I know all of this because I ha some large back fillings done with composite
early on.  They all had to be replaced within a few years due to decay around
the fillings.  By then I was back in Florida with my childhood, excellent
dentist and I learned why I shouldn't have had composite fillings there from
him.  I now have huge amalgam fillings there and am on the crown-a-year plan
to cover those before the remnants of enamal give up the battle.   Oh, and
amalgam IS available!  I've had amalgam fillings recently and I don't
understand wy your dentist can't get the stuff if mine in remote Michigan
can!

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jofirey - 11 Jan 2008 20:41 GMT
>>  One dumb thing with Delta- if you require a filling and it's not
>> on one of the very front teeth they will only pay for a "silver" filling.
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> understand wy your dentist can't get the stuff if mine in remote Michigan
> can!

I got my "silver" fillings over fifty years ago and they are all still in
great shape.  I wouldn't want anything else in the back teeth.  Don't want
to be sitting in a dentists chair getting them replaced if I live another
twenty years.

Jo
Carole - 12 Jan 2008 06:34 GMT
> The silver, or amalgam, fillings (guess whose husband used to work dental
> boards!) are much better for back teeth that take the pressure of chewing.  
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> understand wy your dentist can't get the stuff if mine in remote Michigan
> can!

Thanks for the explanation, Nan. I'm thinking about getting the Delta
plan as there are a number of dentists near me who take it. I'm still
researching though :)

Carole
Navy - 12 Jan 2008 13:23 GMT
I got Delta Dental when it was offered by Tricare before I quit work (where
I still had a dental insurance).  I was sure glad as it has really helped.
I feel the premiums are reasonable for one person.  Now, this coming
October, they are going to start covering implants!  Of course, most of mine
are already in, but I may be able to stall the last two so at least part of
them will be covered.  I read that other insurance programs are going to
cover implants, too.  That was my one big worry when I looked at retiring
was dental coverage.

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>> The silver, or amalgam, fillings (guess whose husband used to work dental
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> Carole
Carole - 13 Jan 2008 19:12 GMT
> I got Delta Dental when it was offered by Tricare before I quit work (where
> I still had a dental insurance).  I was sure glad as it has really helped.
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> cover implants, too.  That was my one big worry when I looked at retiring
> was dental coverage.

Thanks, Navy. The dentist that I am leaning towards using is in Delta
dental so I'm probably going to go for it. As long as I join before the
end of January, covereage starts in February. I think I'll need implants
on the bottom, so this is good news. My problem is going to be paying
for my share, but maybe the dentist will take pity on me :)

Carole
Carole - 14 Jan 2008 01:38 GMT
> I got Delta Dental when it was offered by Tricare before I quit work (where
> I still had a dental insurance).  I was sure glad as it has really helped.
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> cover implants, too.  That was my one big worry when I looked at retiring
> was dental coverage.

Which program do you have?  AARP has two plans. They are both considered
Delta Dental PPO's. I don't see anything about them covering implants
though, or was that something sent just to subscribers?

Carole
Navy - 14 Jan 2008 22:55 GMT
I got mine through Tricare for Life - military health care - not through
AARP.  Coverages are different, I know, for different groups.  Good luck.
From what I read, I believe the implant coverage won't start until October.

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>> I got Delta Dental when it was offered by Tricare before I quit work
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> Carole
Carole - 10 Jan 2008 20:10 GMT
>   Carole wrote:
>  
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>  If your income and assets are low enough, you may qualify
>  for Medicare.  That covers medical/dental/meds.

I'm on Medicare. But as a single person, they tell me I'm getting too
much money to qualify for anything (yea, right!)  Maybe I should have a
couple of kids and then I'd qualify :)

Carole
 
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