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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / November 2007recommendations of natural anti inflammatories please
I have serious chronic back pain and arthritic pain in both knees. I cannot take NSAIDs any longer due to stomach pain. Vitamin C also bothers my stomach. Tylenol does nothing. When I was on Celebrex it was quite helpful but it also bothers my stomach. I do take Tramadol but I need some kind of anti inflammatory. I also take glucosamine (1500mg), MSM (250 mg) and chondroitin (not sure of dosage). I was wondering about other supplements that might help. Can anyone suggest something? Much appreciated...... > I have serious chronic back pain and arthritic pain in both knees. I > cannot take NSAIDs any longer due to stomach pain. Vitamin C also [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Much appreciated...... Hello Jane, Have you tried pure emu oil and emu oil capsules ? As it is a natural anti-inflammatory, this should hopefully not bother your stomach. Many of our customers are using a combination of both initially, then are dropping back to a maintenance dose of emu oil capsules. Our customers tend to start on 6 capsules (1000mg each) a day, and then knock out the middle 2 when they have notice relief from the symptoms. Try going to www.emu-shop.com Have a read of the testimonials on the web site that you will find very helpful. https://www.emu-shop.com/index.php/page/shop/pages/page_id/121 Hope this helps. If you have any more questions, let me know Path: textbe01-phx!hwmnpeer02.phx!hw-filter.phx!hwmnpeer01.phx!hwmnpeer01.lga!news .highwinds-media.com!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!v29g2000prd.googlegr oups.com!not-for-mail From: spiro@talyala-ebooks.com Newsgroups: alt.support.arthritis Subject: Re: recommendations of natural anti inflammatories please Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:56:17 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 40 Message-ID: <1193882177.716993.72250@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com> References: <1193876786.980500.73740@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.154.24.147 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1193882181 4817 127.0.0.1 (1 Nov 2007 01:56:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 01:56:21 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <1193876786.980500.73740@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071008 Firefox/2.0.0.8,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 Proxy3 (NetCache NetApp/6.0.2) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.154.24.147; posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0 Xref: Hurricane-Charley alt.support.arthritis:99931 X-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:56:32 MST (textbe01-phx) 59.154.24.144 - 59.154.24.151 netname: OPTUSSATELLITE country: AU descr: OPTUS Customer Network descr: Optus Satellite descr: Belrose Earth Station descr: 2 Challenger Drive descr: Belrose NSW 2085 *role*: OPTUS IP ADMINISTRATORS address: SingTel Optus Pty Ltd address: 101 Miller Street address: North Sydney NSW 2060 address: AUSTRALIA country: AU abuse@optus.net.au fred.shao@optus.com.au hostmaster@optus.net.au louise.howard@optus.com.au ipadmin@optus.net.au groups-abuse@google.com Thanks Chief,,, that will be heard. Harv > Path: > textbe01-phx!hwmnpeer02.phx!hw-filter.phx!hwmnpeer01.phx!hwmnpeer01.lga!news [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > ipadmin@optus.net.au > groups-abuse@google.com >> I have serious chronic back pain and arthritic pain in both knees. I >> cannot take NSAIDs any longer due to stomach pain. Vitamin C also [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > As it is a natural wallett lightener, this should hopefully only bother > your bank account. Hi Jane, please ignore the spammer, we have plenty of emus here in Australia and we also have the same rates and treatments for arthritis. What kind of arthritis do you have? I have to take a proton pump inhibitor for my stomach to be able to handle celebrex. Celebrex works well for me. Are you seeing a rheumatologist or just a general practitioner? Regards, Ari  Signaturespammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life: http://www.abmdr.org.au/ http://www.marrow.org/ > Hi Jane, please ignore the spammer, we have plenty of emus here in > Australia and we also have the same rates and treatments for arthritis. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Ari I have OA in my knees. The problem with my back is "soft tissue", AKA - they have no clue. It is not arthritis. It was originally caused by a PT treatment gone horribly wrong. I already take Prilosec. I've also taken Prevacid and a few others. My doctor had hoped I could take the Celebrex with one of these, but after a month or so I still ended up with stomach pain. Ping meet Pong. For anyone who hasn't seen this garbage routine before "Jane" and "Spiro" are one and the same. And what they are selling might more accurately be called snake oil. > Ping meet Pong. > > For anyone who hasn't seen this garbage routine before "Jane" and "Spiro" > are one and the same. > > And what they are selling might more accurately be called snake oil. Jofirey, Please only provide helpful information on this thread. Going around like a yahoo making false claims and accusations does not help anyone. For your information, Jane has been offered some advice on finding a natural anti-inflammatory. We are not one and the same. And what I was referring to was Pure Emu Oil. >> Ping meet Pong. >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > And what I was referring to was Pure Emu Oil. Ahaha another sock puppet! f.ck off you spamming little piece of shite. How dare you try and rip off people in pain you ropey turd? Unlike fish oil, emu oil is pure bollocks. Here's a hint: what you're sucking out of those emus isn't "oil", mate - you sick sick bastard. Signaturespammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life: http://www.abmdr.org.au/ http://www.marrow.org/ At our Emu Farm in Australia our emus are farmed for their oil and meat. In no way is the creature treated with any less care than a farmed animal. Emu Oil contains the essential fatty acids Omega 3 6 9 which is derived from their fat. And as said before, the naturally occurring anti-inflammatory properties in emu oil will help reduce the inflammation that is causing the aches and pains. Sorry, Ari (spodosaurus) that you feel so bitter about all this. It's a shame that you spend more time arguing over a misunderstanding than to give out helpful advice to someone in need. > At our Emu Farm in Australia our emus are farmed for their oil and > meat. Good for you. Emus don't treat arthritis. > And as said before, the naturally occurring anti-inflammatory > properties in emu oil will help reduce the inflammation that is > causing the aches and pains. No it doesn't. You're a scummy spammer who is trying to create a market for a dud commodity by selling snake oil to people in pain. Crawl back under your rock with the rest of the snakes. > At our Emu Farm in Australia our emus are farmed to fatten our wallets. > Emu Oil contains the essential fatty acids Omega 3 6 9 Only Omega 3 is beneficial. > And as said before, the naturally occurring anti-inflammatory > properties in emu oil will help reduce the inflammation in your > wallets and bank accounts. ... For Sale: Hourglass for timing windoze boot/initialization times. > Sorry, Ari (spodosaurus) that you feel so bitter about all this. > It's a shame that you spend more time arguing over a misunderstanding > than to give out helpful advice to someone in need. there isn't any misunderstanding, you are spamming here, and in the eczema group, really plain and simple doubling - your emu, and, your ebook sites... Rogers, Christine talyala@emu-shop.com [and let's not forget good ol hubby 'phil'] Emu Products Pty Ltd P.O. Box 2058 Murray Bridge South Australia 5253 Murray Bridge, South Australia 5253 AU (61+)8-8532-3185 fax: (61+)8-8531-0337 spiz <spiro@talyala-ebooks.com> Domain=TALYALA-EBOOKS.COM Administrative Contact: Rogers, Christine chris@emu-shop.com Talyala Products Mt Charles Road Keith, South Australia 5267 Australia (088) 755-3026 save your sales pitch for ebay - it won't fly here On Nov 2, 11:01 am, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net> wrote: > > Sorry, Ari (spodosaurus) that you feel so bitter about all this. > > It's a shame that you spend more time arguing over a misunderstanding [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > save your sales pitch for ebay - it won't fly here For your information Paul, My name is Spiro. Not Chris. AND no! Phil's not my husband. (LOL) Spiz is my nickname that I had for all my life. I am part of the sales and support staff of the Emu Farm and our eBooks site that you have mentioned. Chris and Phil are the owners of those business mentioned. Yes, spiro@talyala-ebooks.com is my email address. Well Done! There is nothing to hide about myself. My question is why was I singled out in the first place, like a witch hunt? I'm not sure what the protocol is here, but I offered info about emu oil and a link to testimonials of people who have used emu oil as a natural anti-inflammatory. I'm not sure about this spamming and the accusations hurled my way about this. There was no other intention, other than to offer a point of view, and possible answers to Jane's questions. Which is what this forum was about. Right ? Instead, I was sworn at, ridiculed and made a public mockery on this thread. You are all forgiven. No more said. I am very sorry to all contributors to this group if I have offended anyone unintentionally. I would hope that no hard feelings would arise from this. And hope you all have a great weekend. lol don't you just love it when they try to justify spamming? too droll. this one deserves a response: > On Nov 2, 11:01 am, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > For your information Paul, wait for it...it's coming... > My name is Spiro. Not Chris. never said you were chris - i showed who the owners of the spam operation are...silly twit > AND no! Phil's not my husband. (LOL) well, unless you're into polyandry i should hope not... > Spiz is my nickname that I had for all my life. are we supposed to care if it is your given name or a nickname? - a spammer by any name is still a spammer... > I am part of the sales and support staff of the Emu Farm and our > eBooks site that you have mentioned. so, is it that only you are ill-educated as to proper netequitte and are allowed to function unsupervised, or is it endemic to your whole operation? > Chris and Phil are the owners of those business mentioned. well thanks for pointing out what was already known...lol > Yes, spiro@talyala-ebooks.com is my email address. Well Done! gosh! did i need to have it confirmed? > There is nothing to hide about myself. not that it would have done any good... > My question is why was I singled out in the first place, you weren't - all spammers are given a similar warm and embracing welcome. >like a witch > hunt? lolololololololololololololol tell you what spammer - get got only what your actions called for, nothing more or less. > I'm not sure what the protocol is here, again with the obvious - slow learner aren't you? >but I offered info about emu > oil and a link to testimonials of people who have used emu oil as a > natural anti-inflammatory. yawn - you really are dense aren't you? it's spam, you're a spammer - and we've read it all before. > I'm not sure about this spamming of course you are sure about it - you know what spam is, and you know that your post was spam. >and the accusations hurled my way > about this. hurled? well yes, you post did make most here want to hurl...rancid spam has that affect upon us... > There was no other intention, than to tout your commercial products here for profit - tsk, tsk - spam indeed. >other than to offer a point of view, to facilitate sales >and > possible answers to Jane's questions. all in the hope of driving traffic to a commercial site for further sales > Which is what this forum was about. no - not if you intent is to drive sales - and it was/is >Right ? wrong > Instead, I was sworn at, ridiculed and made a public mockery on this > thread. well gosh a rooney spammer - that is what happens after all - you spam - we react - so simple that even a cretinous spammer can understand it. > You are all forgiven. awwwwww - how sweet of you...lolololololol >No more said. lolololol want to bet? > I am very sorry to all contributors to this group if I have offended > anyone unintentionally. you did, but no one believes it was unintentional on your part - you knew what you were doing and took the chance. didn't work out for you but what the heck. > I would hope that no hard feelings would arise from this. lolololol - you are kidding right? hard feelings? spammer, you and your justifications are a source of humor here!!! > And hope you all have a great weekend. we will indeed! > My question is why was I singled out in the first place, like a witch > hunt? You weren't singled out. We treat all onagers the same. No discrimination. ... spiz shook his family tree and only nuts fell out. > And what I was referring to was Pure SPAM. Hayyy Pisssz,,,,, You do not get to tell people how to post in this newsgroup and up your AS$%%^ with your pure emu sqeezings. Harv >> Ping meet Pong. >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > And what I was referring to was Pure Emu Oil. > We are not one and the same. But spiro and spiz are the same - onagers. ... ATTENTION ............ Elvis has left the newsgroup. > I have serious chronic back pain and arthritic pain in both knees. I > cannot take NSAIDs any longer due to stomach pain. Vitamin C also [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Much appreciated...... Jane, check into avosoy and high doses of fish oil. Lots of info about fish oil on the internet and in dr. theo/s books m OK - regarding emu oil. I'm embarrassed to say I tried it. I knew it was a waste of time but I was desperate. It did nothing but make my wallet thinner. Probably didn't do much for the emu either. I should have mentioned I already take Omega 3 fish oil, 1000mg three times a day. Didn't do anything for the pain but I keep taking it because I know it's good for me in other ways. I used to eat a lot of pineapple, which contains Bromelain, supposedly an anti inflammatory. It may have helped a bit, not sure, but it was very expensive since I had to eat almost 1/2 a pineapple daily. Also I ended up gaining weight! I know that Bromelain comes in pill form but from what I've read it's safety is questionable. > I have serious chronic back pain and arthritic pain in both knees. I > cannot take NSAIDs any longer due to stomach pain. Vitamin C also [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Much appreciated...... Hi Jane, My doctor gave me Celebrex when I hurt my hand in Yoga (I was in excruciating pain) and it made my so sick I thought I was going to get sick while meeting with a client. I know someone who does ART (Active Release Technique) massage and that got the swelling down. I know this is not helpful for arthritis, but I do have a suggestion. As part of my work I did a health fair where I was giving away free samples of ALCiS pain cream. It has aspirin in it, but it does not affect your stomache since it is a cream. The gal who worked in the cafeteria where we were exhibiting has arthritis in her hands and back. I gave her some samples to take home, and she said that it worked on her back and her hands. I know this is not a natural anti-inflammatory, but I'm telling you about it because it works without tearing up your stomache. As far as natural anti-inflammatories, flax seed oil (liquid in the black refrigerated bottle) is supposed to be pretty potent. I have heard thought that for that to really be effective you need to stop eating meat and milk because animal derived foods are inflammatory. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions. Sincerely, Shari Have you tried Arthrotec? It comes with an ingredient that protects against stomach and intestinal irritation and ulcer. I find it works for me. Good luck on finding one that does help you. SignatureNavy Take out the FISH to email me. >I have serious chronic back pain and arthritic pain in both knees. I > cannot take NSAIDs any longer due to stomach pain. Vitamin C also [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Much appreciated...... > Have you tried Arthrotec? It comes with an ingredient that protects against > stomach and intestinal irritation and ulcer. I find it works for me. Good [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > Much appreciated...... No I've never heard of it. Thanks I'll ask my doctor. Navy, I couldn't take Arthrotec; it bothered my stomach too much!! Gwen >> Have you tried Arthrotec? It comes with an ingredient that protects >> against [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > No I've never heard of it. Thanks I'll ask my doctor. |
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