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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / November 2007Bad day at the docs
I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. I went to my family doctor today because of a shortness of breath and exhaustion if activity is continued. They x rayed my lungs and the Rheumtoid lung problem that I have is much worse but at the time I made the appointment I did not know that my exhaustion was caused my a lack of oxygen. I have an upcoming CT scan and the doc and I are going to get together for a plan. I have been needing to talk to the doc about this for over a year. Now, now don't beat me up for taking all this time. It only bothers me when I over do. I guess he asked me about chest pain, 3-4 times and I told him each time, no pain only over fatigued which makes me lay down without choice. I know what the CT scan is going to show him. A person can see that in the chest x ray this morning. So it goes and it is all about me and I am sorry about that but I am really down right now. Harv (((Harv))) Are you saying that you have RA in your lungs? Or did they see some kind of mass? Either way, you have my sympathy and the biggest hugs I can send across the web. We will be here, day and night. Whatever you do, don't drop out on us. Kelly C. > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv > (((Harv))) > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Kelly C. No, I do not have a mass. I have a ton of scar tissue. The doctor says that my chest sounds Raspy when I breath for him. There is such a thing as Rheumatoid (sp) lung caused by having RA and with some people taking Methx makes it much worse. I took it for about 8 years. Kelly, I have been posting in this newsgroup since I was in my 50's. Spammers, people with a foul mind and mouth, trolls, ect.ect. could not drive me away, people that got highly upset because I told a person they were being prayed for or just my God give you strength was enough to set the San Fran. crowd off with a dozen emails. I have periods of time where things in life really gets me down and I take a break but I tell you what is taking place. If I really stop posting here ,,, know that I am in a better place and am still praying for the people in this newsgroup. Thank you for your kind reply. Harv Oh, Harv, I'm sorry this has been dropped on you now. After the CT scan results it may be best to make an appt. with a pulmonary doc for management if needed. There are things that can be done for you no matter what the lung problem is, so it's not time yet to be all gloom and doom. I will add you to my daily prayers and ask that you get some good news about all this. Ann > Oh, Harv, I'm sorry this has been dropped on you now. After the CT scan > results it may be best to make an appt. with a pulmonary doc for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Ann thanks Ann,,, I already have one of those but have not seen him in quite a while. Harv Harv you are in my thoughts and prayers. do take care. we cant stand the thought of loosing you. we need you here. sending hugs and love janice | > (((Harv))) | > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] | people in this newsgroup. Thank you for your kind reply. | Harv > Harv you are in my thoughts and prayers. do take care. we cant stand the > thought of loosing you. we need you here. sending hugs and love > janice Ooooh, I can't stand that thought either and thank you very much. It is going to take another lung doctor to get to the bottom of my lung problem. My RD and family doctor have folded their arms and waiting for words of wisdom from one of those $ 250 a visit guys. I am not going back to the old doctor, specialist because of his nurse Ratchet that still works in his office who I saw again trying to get my CT scan from 3 years ago a couple of days ago. :-) I am not raising my voice to get help from people that you have to inorder to make them listen to what you have to say. I am not... I am not but ohhh I wanted to. In Storage,,, my a.s. eup, eup, not going to do that. I am looking into getting an oxygen bottle for people like her. Sorry Harv > Ooooh, I can't stand that thought either and thank you very much. It is > going to take another lung doctor to get to the bottom of my lung problem. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Sorry > Harv Is the oxygen bottle to help you breathe while you are yelling at her, or to hit her with? ;0) Shannon >> Ooooh, I can't stand that thought either and thank you very much. It is >> going to take another lung doctor to get to the bottom of my lung [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Shannon It is to make sure I do not run out of oxygen because of getting upset buttttt it is just about the right size to get her attention. The problem is have a long enough hose to keep from snatching it out of my nose while doing something about her attitude and manor which needs adjustment. :-) Harv Ps thanks,,, we can laugh about this and feel better. Good job... >> Harv you are in my thoughts and prayers. do take care. we cant stand the >> thought of loosing you. we need you here. sending hugs and love [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Sorry > Harv Repeat after me Harv. "I'm not allowed to thwap recalcitrant medical personnel upside the head with my oxygen bottle" Our friend and sort of neighbor of thirty plus years was in the hospital and supposed to die last Christmas from heart failure. He's still putting around in his car with his oxygen bottle and appears to feel better than he has in years. He now lives elsewhere. But still comes by to argue with his ex wife and look after her yard and house, drop off his dog for her too look after etc. He's French Canadian. She's Italian. What can I say. They are both good friends. Jo Harv, I won't yell at you for not going sooner...just sighing because another one of my friends is going through way too much...Praying that God heals what is broken, but if not, carries you in his arms and gives you strength...Like Kelly said...Huge enormous hugs... And even bigger Prayers Cindy > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv Thank you for your kind words. Harv > Harv, I won't yell at you for not going sooner...just sighing because > another one of my friends is going through way too much...Praying that God [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> sorry about that but I am really down right now. >> Harv Harv, I'm sorry to hear this. When is your CT scan and doc appt? My prayers are with you that this is not as grim as it first appears. Either way, we'll be here for you. Diane Harv, I'm sorry to hear this. When is your CT scan and doc appt? My prayers are with you that this is not as grim as it first appears. Either way, we'll be here for you. Diane (((((((((((((((((((((harv)))))))))))))))))))) my thoughts and prayers continue for you. hang in there, guy. know that you are loved and cared about. kate > Harv, I'm sorry to hear this. When is your CT scan and doc appt? My > prayers are with you that this is not as grim as it first appears. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > kate Thanks I really do feel better about it all now and that was why I wanted to wait a couple of days before talking about it. Harv Good thoughts and prayers coming your way, Harv. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{HARV}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Carole > Good thoughts and prayers coming your way, Harv. > > {{{{{{{{{{{{{{HARV}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} > > Carole Thanks Carole > Harv, I'm sorry to hear this. When is your CT scan and doc appt? My > prayers are with you that this is not as grim as it first appears. > Either way, we'll be here for you. > > Diane They said we would get together about ten days after the CT scan and they are going to call me for the appointment time. thanks Diane... Harv Hi Harv, Look at the good not the bad. At least you're not 30 years old and being told you have those symptoms because you have heart failure and a hole in your heart from having rheumatic fever when you were 18 months old. Appreciate every day like the gift it is. Sending Good Thoughts, {{{{Harvey}}}} GrampaHugs, Alex, > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > but I am really down right now. > Harv -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * http://home.comcast.net/~apbarna/ * http://goldenmist.org/ahr_faq/index.html * http://goldenmist.org/grampahugs/ * http://goldenmist.org/ **************************************************** > Hi Harv, > Look at the good not the bad. At least you're not 30 years old and being [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > GrampaHugs, > Alex, Truer words were never spoken. I am sorry to say that every so often, I forget to tell God thanks for this day. One thing about it Alex, if the Lord takes me today,,, I am ready and I look forward to it. :-) That does not mean that I am in a hurry,,,, we all live on Gods time and his schedule. I was a little upset to find out what is going to kill me. Its people like you that help a person to face what is. Harv > Truer words were never spoken. I am sorry to say that every so often, I > forget to tell God thanks for this day. One thing about it Alex, if the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you that help a person to face what is. > Harv I used to have a co-worker who, when asked how she was, answered, "I woke up today so I'm off to a good start!" I heard that many times over the years we worked together and I try to remember it often. Of course, we've all known those days when we weren't so sure it was worth waking up, but it still helps to keep things in perspective.  SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare I am having mail bounced by both rr and comcast. Joe N. Chief, we don't even have the same ISP! Hope he can find what's up with his. I can't. Gwen >I am having mail bounced by both rr and comcast. > > Joe N. > I am having mail bounced by both rr and comcast. > > Joe N. My old roadrunner address has been dead for a year. Comcast is changing everything and I can't get into my account with Sea Monkey to check the online mailbox settings. They want me to use MS Internet Exploder which I won't use. I had turned off their spam blocker but they must have turned it back on so if my correct address isn't in the To: address I never see it. If you have me on a bulk list you may as well take me off. GrampaHugs, Alex, -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * http://home.comcast.net/~apbarna/ * http://goldenmist.org/ahr_faq/index.html * http://goldenmist.org/grampahugs/ * http://goldenmist.org/ **************************************************** >> I am having mail bounced by both rr and comcast. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > -- My youngest got tired of all the spam and dealing with Comcast. He has a computer that runs all the time that makes him his own server and lets Comcast worry about where the sun is shinning.. Harv >I guess he asked me about chest pain, 3-4 times and I told him each time, no >pain only over fatigued which makes me lay down without choice. I know what >the CT scan is going to show him. A person can see that in the chest x ray >this morning. So it goes and it is all about me and I am sorry about that >but I am really down right now. With reason, Harvey, but don't beat yourself up for sharing with us. We are here for each other. Let's hope you and the doctor come up with a good plan that works well for you. >>I guess he asked me about chest pain, 3-4 times and I told him each time, >>no [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > us. We are here for each other. Let's hope you and the doctor > come up with a good plan that works well for you. I will keep that in mind. Thanks Harv Here's praying that the doctor will come up with a plan that works. Cooly > Here's praying that the doctor will come up with a plan that works. > Cooly Welll, its kind of like AS,,,,, all you can hope for is to slow the progress down. Once a person looses lung power,,, it does not get well or come back. You learn to live with less. thanks Harv > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the >Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >but I am really down right now. >Harv Hang in there Harv. You have given all of us information and comfort and certainly deserve to get some back now. Although I don't have your problem (yet) I can relate somewhat after going through congestive heart failure. All through it they told me that they were less worried about my heart than my longs because of the RA. I don't know if that's good news or bad. Keep us informed. Thumper >> I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the >>Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > know if that's good news or bad. Keep us informed. > Thumper Ok,, thanks Thumper. Harv Harv, I know you are down right now. Anyone would be. Lack of sufficient oxygen doesn't help how you feel any more than it helps your health. There is still a lot that can be done to improve the length and quality of your life. Think not so much that you know what is going to kill you, but only you know more about the odds. Still a lot of living to do in the meantime. Jo > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv > Harv, I know you are down right now. Anyone would be. Lack of sufficient > oxygen doesn't help how you feel any more than it helps your health. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jo Thanks Jo, good advice. Harv Harvey - never apologize for needing support - ever ever! This is tough and I know we should probably give you heck for leaving it but goodness knows most of us have been guilty of doing that a couple of times or so. First off - don't panic until the final diagnosis comes in! You need a plan to fight this as you say and things have come a long way. If it is only when you are overdoing it that might be a big help. Since there is no chest pain that is good too. the hardest part i know is the waiting and the acknowledgment that something is wrong. I sympathize and empathize! Now just see what the final tests say. And tell us - someone probably has a suggestion on easing some of the exhaustion. My gentle hugs Harvey. I know a bad day takes it out of anyone! Kelly in BC > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv > Harvey - never apologize for needing support - ever ever! This is tough > and I know we should probably give you heck for leaving it but goodness [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Kelly in BC Ya know,,,, I may even get my own little oxygen bottle to carry around. My FIL did it for a few years and he kept a great big garden and 3-4 chicken houses for eggs at 50 cents a dozen year in, year out, for many years. That paid for a pretty long stay in the hospital while he fought lung cancer and emphysema. Those chickens paid for everything for him and my MIL. I saw 5 cigar boxes filled with roles of bills and each roll with a rubber band. My wife and her sister took care of that and I had no part in it. After my MIL got cancer of the pancreas and went pretty quick. They sold the farm to a young man and woman from Ill. Poor as a church mouse they say but they knew what to do with a farm. Sorry for running on. good night Harv You are not runnning on! Wonderful story and just goes to show you - you too can handle this. You don't have lung cancer and emphysema and although this is not great there are things that can be done. An oxygen bottle is not a bad thing (in Sidney where I just moved from it is considered an accessory to your walker - unfortunately I didn't have one - no lung problems. We had lots of seniors in that town!) So don't panic yet. Although I know it is easier to say than do. Kelly >> Harvey - never apologize for needing support - ever ever! This is tough >> and I know we should probably give you heck for leaving it but goodness [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > good night > Harv {{{{{{{{{{ Harv }}}}}}}}}} So sorry to hear that your doctors appointment wasn't what you expected and kind of took you by surprise. That's always hard when that happens. No need to come down on you for waiting so long, sheesh, who of us hasn't done that a time or two or three? Just part of our human nature I guess. Harv, it is also so very easy to jump right to the worst case scenario and to think the worst. Trust me, I have a tendency to do that myself all the time. So, Harv, my friend, take a few long deep breaths with me and then tell youself this is NOT the end of the road. I'm not trying to minimize what you are going through Harv, but I can tell you that I have been down this road 2-3 times. Rheumatoid lung is a tough one to deal with, but it can be treated and it can improve some. Usually they treat it with high dose steroids at first and some Imuran. Yes, you may also need some supplemental oxygen, but Harv it is still not the end of the road. I have been on oxygen since 1993 and yes it takes some adjustment, but you can still live a very full, active, and promising life. Harv, I will be praying that the CT scan ends up showing that things are not quite as bad as you think they are and that the doctors are able to treat this aggressively as soon as possible so that you might even see improvement. Know you are not alone in this Harv. I know I'm not the only one who has had to deal with this and you will deal with it too. Your family here on ASA will walk every step of this journey with you Harv, praying, cheering you on, and doing what ever else it takes to help you feel more better and more comfortable!!! Harv, for now, just lean back and bask in all of the love and prayers and support of your ASA family, feel the love, grace, and mercy enveloing you, and come here often to unload and talk, we're here for you Harv!!! We love you!!! Donna . . . . 1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS...... 2.) Hey MJ, tit for tat, I got your back! 3.) J.K.M.A. > Harv, for now, just lean back and bask in all of the love and prayers > and support of your ASA family, feel the love, grace, and mercy [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Donna > . What can I say?? You have said it all. Harv Make sure you get a blessing from your home teachers, Harv. We will be thinking about you and praying for you. I will also put your name on the prayer roll here. DeeTee > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv > Make sure you get a blessing from your home teachers, Harv. We will be > thinking about you and praying for you. I will also put your name on the > prayer roll here. > > DeeTee Now,,,, that is power. Harv ((((((((((((((((((Harv))))))))))))))) go ahead and post here when you need to, without waiting for things to settle in. We've all been through that initial shock period, though many of us have been fortunate enough not to be dealing with such a serious complication of the RA. You are in my prayers, that they may find an effective way of treating this. hugs and prayers.... SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare (((((harv))))) Love and prayers, vickie B. Who is grateful to know you! and blessed to call you a friend! Please stay in touch! > (((((harv))))) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Who is grateful to know you! and blessed to call you a friend! Please > stay in touch! I will be herel where my friends are Vickie b. Harv > ((((((((((((((((((Harv))))))))))))))) go ahead and post here when you > need [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that they may find an effective way of treating this. hugs and > prayers.... Thank you Nann. Harv Harv- I am so sorry to read this. You are always very generous with your support to everyone on this newsgroup. Thank you for sharing so that we can return the prayers and good thoughts and encouragement that you have offered to us. I will pray that your diagnosis is quick and accurate to keep you from additional worries, that your physicians find a treatment plan to alleviate your symptoms and keep you comfortable and going strong for a long, long time. You are loved and needed here by all of us. Thank you for being the kind and generous man that you are. I wish you all the best. Leslie > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv > Harv- > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Leslie Your words to Gods ears. You bring tears to my eyes. thanks Harv Harv, my pulmonologist has me on oxygen when I'm sleeping. It seems it is harder for the body to get oxygen when lieing down. I also get very short of breath and very tired even walking around in the house. You have my sympathy. Please go to a pulmonist. Gwen > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv Harv, you are in my prayers. m > Harv, my pulmonologist has me on oxygen when I'm sleeping. It seems it is > harder for the body to get oxygen when lieing down. > I also get very short of breath and very tired even walking around in the > house. You have my sympathy. Please go to a pulmonist. > Gwen Hi Gwen,, I have one of those and I may end up going back to him. Harv Harv, Just wanted to let you know I was thinking of you. I'm sorry about the dx, but hopefully it is not as bad as you fear. Wait until the docs get all the info and you go over it again. You will continue to be in my thoughts. debbie m. (((((((Harv))))))) You are in my prayers as always. Rest & feel better, my friend. Shannon > (((((((Harv))))))) > > You are in my prayers as always. Rest & feel better, my friend. > > Shannon :-) I am going to do that and no more over doing. Having a heart starving for oxygen is serious business. Harv Harv, High dose steroids is one of the first line of treatments in this problem in your lungs. You might want to talk to your doctor about starting the steroids as soon as you get your CT scan done. . . . Donna . . . . 1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS...... 2.) Hey MJ, tit for tat, I got your back! 3.) J.K.M.A. > Harv, > > High dose steroids is one of the first line of treatments in this > problem in your lungs. You might want to talk to your doctor about > starting the steroids as soon as you get your CT scan done. > Donna Thanks Donna... Harv >> Harv, >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Harv PS----I have my RD appointment on 11-5 and more will be learned then. > Harv, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > debbie m. I have known about my lungs and Rheum. lung every since I had to be treated for TB exposure. The x ray was much worse than then. I have to get my RD involved and see what takes place. Harv ahhhhhh - well shoot here's what i'm going to hope that you, like myself - will be told that while you've lost a % of function [in my case about 40% loss to the fibrosis] that it can be slowed down from this point onwards. so you gotta learn to pace things, and do 'em differently but what the heck - sure beats the alternative right? [ok, so i do get impatient sometimes and overdo it, but i'm hard headed that way] and you can always blame it when you forget something [or claim to have forgotten]!! each day is a gift - give yourself permission to play as much as you want!!! > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > but I am really down right now. > Harv > ahhhhhh - well shoot > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > each day is a gift - give yourself permission to play as much as you > want!!! Thanks Paul,,, from what I could see on the x ray which shows scar tissue as a bright shinny reflection. From that, I have lost between 1/3 to a 1/4 of the bottom of both lungs and does not rebuild the held oxygen in my system after used up. It is way more than just catching my breath after exercise. I am using Advair 100/50 twice a day now and I do not know how much help it will be. Harv Harv, I'm now on Prednisone for my lungs, and I have the fat face to prove it! Gwen >> ahhhhhh - well shoot >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > much help it will be. > Harv > Harv, I'm now on Prednisone for my lungs, and I have the fat face to prove > it! > Gwen Hi Gwen, That is the one question that I thought of at the doctors that I forgot to ask. I have a couple of months supply of pred. but I do not know if it will help this problem. Harv I am sorry to hear about this Harv. Take care. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Rose @}->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. Please remove "Ima" to reply. >I am sorry to hear about this Harv. Take care. My thoughts and prayers > are with you. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Please remove "Ima" to reply. Thanks Rose {{{{{Harv}}}}} A bit of encouragement for all the encouragement you have given others over the years! Nanny > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv > {{{{{Harv}}}}} A bit of encouragement for all the encouragement you have > given others over the years! Nanny Hi Nanny, You know that support is not about ones self but it has its own reward of making someone's life more livable. thanks Harv (((((((((Harv)))))))))) Know that we love and pray for you. Lyn > (((((((((Harv)))))))))) Know that we love and pray for you. > Lyn Thanks Lyn,,,, I feel better already. Harv I'm saddened to read of your current situation Harv. Hang in there big guy, there is much to yet enjoy in life. One step in front of the other and live in this moment, not the future. You might get hit by a falling piano before your lungs are gone. GaryZ > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv > I'm saddened to read of your current situation Harv. Hang in there big > guy, there is much to yet enjoy in life. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > :-) I feel better about it now Gary and I will watch those pianos. Harv >>I'm saddened to read of your current situation Harv. Hang in there big >>guy, there is much to yet enjoy in life. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Harv Yea, you could end up an A flat :))) >>>I'm saddened to read of your current situation Harv. Hang in there big >>>guy, there is much to yet enjoy in life. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> Harv > Yea, you could end up an A flat :))) LOLOL So it goes. Harv Just to let you know, Harvey, that you are in all of our prayers. We're not here just to sympathize over the final report but to give you strength during the first oh-oh's and the testing . Now you know part of what is wrong. Keep your chin up and keep us informed so we can pray along with and for you. SignatureNavy Take out the FISH to email me. > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv > Just to let you know, Harvey, that you are in all of our prayers. We're > not here just to sympathize over the final report but to give you strength > during the first oh-oh's and the testing . Now you know part of what is > wrong. Keep your chin up and keep us informed so we can pray along with > and for you. A person can not ask for more. Ok... harv > Take out the FISH to email me. >> I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> sorry about that but I am really down right now. >> Harv > I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the > Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > about that but I am really down right now. > Harv {{{{{{{{{{Harv}}}}}}}}}} No wisdom. Everyone else has done a great job on that part. Hope the new pulmonologist is sharp, creative, and helpful. The quality of a Dr.'s staff is key to getting appropriate care. We learned that clearly with my mother's care and wish we'd switched much earlier. Life is just too short to deal with ego's like the one at the first doctor's office. But please, control yourself about hitting her. Medical care in county jails is notoriously terrible. Adelle >> I really should wait a couple of days before posting this but what the >> Hayyy. It is not everyday that you find out what is going to kill you. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Adelle But Adelle,,,, she neeeeeeeeds it. Later, I would cradle her head in my arms and tell her that she can not treat people like she does without some payback but my payback is going to be that another doctor will have my business so that I do not get reminded how it is behind bars. Harv > But Adelle,,,, she neeeeeeeeds it. Later, I would cradle her head in > my arms and tell her that she can not treat people like she does without > some payback but my payback is going to be that another doctor will have > my business so that I do not get reminded how it is behind bars. > Harv LOL!!! That's right, hit them where it hurts most! The revenue stream! Adelle |
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