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jofirey - 25 Oct 2007 21:48 GMT
Just wanted to share something good that has happened for me in the last six
weeks or so.

Last time I was at my RD I browsed through a copy of Arthritis Insight.  I
don't normally think too much of it.  Too much advertising, etc.  But I
stuck this one in my purse to read again later.

The article that caught my eye talked about how to adapt your knitting so
you can still do it with at least somewhat arthritic hands.

Now for me life in general and arthritis in particular seems to be a lot
about losses.  Things you can't do anymore.  Stuff and people that are gone
and are never coming back.  Sure, learning to appreciate what you have left
is great.  But still there are losses and they are too often permanent.  I
even make do by reminding myself that others are much worse off and to
appreciate what I have.  But I will never hear someone sing again.

Well, the article made a few suggestions.  To use bamboo needles because
they are lighter and warmer than metal or plastic.  To use the "round"
needles because they keep the weight of what you are working on off your
wrists.  To use natural fibers since they have more give.  Needle work books
gave me some tips on types of stitches that are easier on the fingers.

Well, I've finished a blanket for a baby shower.  My hands and wrists are
doing fine.  I figure this will even give my forearms a little bit of a
workout.  That makes IV's easier.

So far, so good.  Now I'm working on a pillow cover.  Then I just may tackle
socks for the boys for Christmas.

Something else that has been good news for me.  Unlike most medical
conditions, RA doesn't always get worse and worse as you get older.  My
first five years were really rough.  That seems to me when the inflammation
was the worst and most of the damage was done.  It isn't that my joints are
getting any better.  But they aren't getting worse either.  Times I need an
injection into a knee or hand or foot are only occasional.  I no longer have
to count how many shots I've had over the past year to figure out if I can
talk the doctor into just one more.

At long last I seem to be learning not to do things that cause me pain.  I
don't twist in that particular way that makes my SI joint hurt like I've
been stabbed.  I avoid having to go up and down steps without support
without thinking about it.  I don't sit in places that are so low I can't
get back up.

Sometimes I can even appreciate the losses.  No I can't hear.  Yes the
implant helps, but for the most part I still can't use the phone.  But since
I can't use the phone, I don't have to answer the phone.  I don't have to
get involved in all those calls we all hate.  There are days when Charlie
gets so disgusted with the telephone, I think he would trade places with me.
At least for a while.

Jo
Kelly C. - 25 Oct 2007 22:13 GMT
Jo, I've found the most wonderful knitting needles ever. They're plastic,
and very lightweight. I never use anything else anymore.

www.knitdenise.com

I have no financial interest in the company at all. They are simply
wonderful needles.

Kelly C.

> Just wanted to share something good that has happened for me in the last
> six weeks or so.
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>
> Jo
jofirey - 25 Oct 2007 22:23 GMT
Thanks.  I've bookmarked the link.  If I'm able to keep up with knitting I'd
like to get a set like that.

Jo

> Jo, I've found the most wonderful knitting needles ever. They're plastic,
> and very lightweight. I never use anything else anymore.
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>>
>> Jo
Kelly C. - 26 Oct 2007 05:41 GMT
> Thanks.  I've bookmarked the link.  If I'm able to keep up with knitting
> I'd like to get a set like that.
>
> Jo

These needles made it possible for me to knit even when my carpal tunnel was
active. I had to take more breaks, but the weight of the project was in my
lap, not on my wrists, and the needles are very smooth, and easy for my
gimpy hands to switch out.

Kelly C.
jofirey - 26 Oct 2007 18:31 GMT
>> Thanks.  I've bookmarked the link.  If I'm able to keep up with knitting
>> I'd like to get a set like that.
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>
> Kelly C.

I'm just so grateful that it seems I'm going to be able to knit.

I grew up doing all different kinds of needle work and playing the piano.
(I even know how to tat reasonably well.)  I also like to read.  Even
holding a book to read gets to be too much after an hour or so.  Not being
able to create anything with my hands was a major loss.  At first I had
awful carpal tunnel problems and then sausage fingers for quite a while.  So
I'd given up on it all.

Knitting just doesn't take as much twisting as the others.  I taught myself
to knit German style as a child which takes a lot of the strain off the
right hand, so don't have to retrain myself on that either.  Knitting just
seems to be designed as a last creative resort.

I'm looking forward to finding and using some of the beautiful hand spun
specialty wools that are available around here now.

Jo
vickie b. - 26 Oct 2007 21:11 GMT
Jo and Folks,

I'm so glad that this was posted.  I've really missed knitting!  I'm
going to try this!

Vickie B.
Kelly C. - 27 Oct 2007 05:54 GMT
> I'm just so grateful that it seems I'm going to be able to knit.
>
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>
> Jo
When you say knitting in the German style, do you mean holding the yarn in
the left hand? That's how I taught myself to do it, but the book called it
the Continental style. I love it, and it really is easiest for me now.

I used to do a lot of cross-stitch, but holding that tiny needle took its
toll, and the effort wasn't worth the pleasure it brought after a while.:(

Anyway, I hope to keep learning, and I think the next new experience may be
socks. It's a good time of year for it.:)

Kelly C.
Alice Faber - 27 Oct 2007 06:11 GMT
> > I'm just so grateful that it seems I'm going to be able to knit.
> >
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> the left hand? That's how I taught myself to do it, but the book called it
> the Continental style. I love it, and it really is easiest for me now.

Yes...Continental and German are the same thing. That's how I knit also.
I've tried to hold the yarn with my right hand (especially when my left
wrist is flaring!), but I just can't make it work smoothly.

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jofirey - 27 Oct 2007 19:37 GMT
>> I'm just so grateful that it seems I'm going to be able to knit.
>>
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> Anyway, I hope to keep learning, and I think the next new experience may
> be socks. It's a good time of year for it.:)

Yes, I'm pretty sure German and Continental are pretty much the same.  Since
I did far more crochet then knitting, it just seemed normal to me to pick up
the yarn with my left hand.  Much to the dismay of my most English
grandmother.  But my current German friend thinks its cool.  She even helped
me to clean up my stitches.  Seems she was taught by the nuns in Germany and
they were quite particular.

I'm looking forward to trying socks too.  Just interesting warm ones for the
boys to wear around the house when its cold.

Jo
Kelly C. - 27 Oct 2007 19:40 GMT
>>> I'm just so grateful that it seems I'm going to be able to knit.
>>>
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>
> Jo

I would also like to re-teach myself crochet. I bought a kit for it. There
are a lot of knit projects, like purses, etc. that have a crocheted handle,
or trim, and I'd love to be able to do some of those things.

I have a big bag of cotton yarns, and love to make washcloths, etc, but want
to practice some more before I move up to wool and felting pieces.

Kelly C.
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 27 Oct 2007 20:17 GMT
I have several boxes of crochet thread.  My hands are bad and I've had
surgery on both shoulders so all the twisting an turning
while crocheting hurt my hands and shoulders so much that I just stopped.  I
might try again now.
I usd to watch my grandmother tatting.  She would never look at the shuttle,
just kept talking and tatting!
Gwen

>>>> I'm just so grateful that it seems I'm going to be able to knit.
>>>>
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>
> Kelly C.
jofirey - 27 Oct 2007 22:41 GMT
>I have several boxes of crochet thread.  My hands are bad and I've had
>surgery on both shoulders so all the twisting an turning
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> shuttle, just kept talking and tatting!
> Gwen

LOL

If you look you loose your concentration and make mistakes.

Kind of like watching yourself play the piano.

Jo
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 27 Oct 2007 00:34 GMT
Squirrely - watch your mail starting in about a week or so.

DeeTee

> Thanks.  I've bookmarked the link.  If I'm able to keep up with knitting
> I'd like to get a set like that.
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>>> Jo
Squirrely - 27 Oct 2007 00:59 GMT
oh ok thanks for letting me know to watch it.

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Alice Faber - 26 Oct 2007 00:12 GMT
> Jo, I've found the most wonderful knitting needles ever. They're plastic,
> and very lightweight. I never use anything else anymore.
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> I have no financial interest in the company at all. They are simply
> wonderful needles.

I had to trade my Denise's for more yarn. They hurt my hands and arms a
lot. I bought them a few years ago, and haven't touched my straight
needles since. However, I found my stitches "sticking" to them too much.
It took me a while to figure out what the problem was, as I do a lot of
socks, on smaller needles.

There are similar sets of interchangeable needles with metal or wood
tips, though, so that's where I'm going next. But I bought some pieces
of the system to try out, after my experience with the Denises.

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Kelly C. - 26 Oct 2007 05:43 GMT
>> Jo, I've found the most wonderful knitting needles ever. They're plastic,
>> and very lightweight. I never use anything else anymore.
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> tips, though, so that's where I'm going next. But I bought some pieces
> of the system to try out, after my experience with the Denises.

I haven't done much with the very tiny needles, and haven't yet attempted
socks. I have made one stocking cap with ear flaps, though, and had to use
the double pointed needles on that, and found it to be a challenge.lol

Whatever works for you is great, and I'd love to hear about your experiences
with other needles, etc.:)

Kelly C.
Alice Faber - 26 Oct 2007 06:15 GMT
> >> Jo, I've found the most wonderful knitting needles ever. They're plastic,
> >> and very lightweight. I never use anything else anymore.
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> Whatever works for you is great, and I'd love to hear about your experiences
> with other needles, etc.:)

You should google for descriptions of the "magic loop" technique. This
lets you use a long circular needle instead of a set of double pointed
needles. Most of the descriptions assume you're making socks or mittens,
but you can do the same thing for hats. I find when I do this that I can
relax my "death grip" on the needles, which means I can knit longer, and
the act of moving the stitches around to where they need to be provides
a natural break, so I'm not knitting non-stop for a long period of time.

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Kelly C. - 27 Oct 2007 05:57 GMT
> In article <S8OdnS5SfKG77LzanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>
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> the act of moving the stitches around to where they need to be provides
> a natural break, so I'm not knitting non-stop for a long period of time.

I think I've seen this demonstrated on a web site somewhere, but it seemed
rather complicated to my newbie-knitter eyes. I may revisit it now, though.
Thanks for the reminder!:)

Kelly C.
Alice Faber - 27 Oct 2007 06:13 GMT
> > In article <S8OdnS5SfKG77LzanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> >
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> rather complicated to my newbie-knitter eyes. I may revisit it now, though.
> Thanks for the reminder!:)

Just try with some leftover yarn. Unless you knit super tight, it will
work with your Denises if you join two of the cables together. It's
pretty bizarre to read about, but when you have enough stitches for a
hat cast on and you're trying to knit it, it makes a whole lot more
sense.

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Kelly - 26 Oct 2007 01:05 GMT
Was thinking of you today Kelly as I was talking to one of the kids on the
street (so nice to have people around after living in non children/ people
you don't see except in car neighborhood).  Wondered how Rachel was doing
this year in school and if the seizures were still under control.  Think of
her regularly.  She must be getting so "grownup" by now (or so they think).

Kelly in BC

> Jo, I've found the most wonderful knitting needles ever. They're plastic,
> and very lightweight. I never use anything else anymore.
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>> Jo
Kelly C. - 26 Oct 2007 05:39 GMT
> Was thinking of you today Kelly as I was talking to one of the kids on the
> street (so nice to have people around after living in non children/ people
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>
> Kelly in BC

How nice of you to think of us.:)

Rachel is a 12 year old, trapped in a 20 year old body.lol

There's a nice, light aluminum baseball bat by the front door, and we are in
love with the new trend of layering clothes. We love the layering.lol

We struggle with seizure control, mainly because Rachel entered puberty
shortly after the seizures started, and hasn't stopped growing since. She
metabolizes the meds so quickly that it's hard to regulate the levels in her
blood.

We had an MRI and EEG last week, and the MRI is still nice and clear, and
the EEG tracings are just what her neuro expects to see with partial
epilepsy. No new or scary things, which is good. We'll make some dosage
increases and continue to hope for the best.

Rachel is in 7th grade this year, and just got a 3.67 on her mid-term report
card, so is on Honor Roll again, and is playing flute in Advanced Band this
year. Throw in 9th grade Reading/Lit and first year Spanish, and she's a
busy girl.lol

I read here every day, and wish everybody well, and just don't think to
respond much, I guess. I've been staying busy with ebay, and a little bit of
knitting, and 7th grade homework, and the Mom Taxi.lol

Hugs,
Kelly C.
Squirrely - 26 Oct 2007 20:04 GMT
Kelly C,

nice to hear from  you and have an update on Rachel. They grow so fast don't
they.

Oh how awesome that she made the honor roll again. That is so great. She is
so advanced for her age group. That shows how smart she is and that she is
applying herself. That is so cool.

How are you doing?

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> How nice of you to think of us.:)
>
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> Hugs,
> Kelly C.
Kelly C. - 27 Oct 2007 06:00 GMT
> Kelly C,
>
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>
> How are you doing?

I am actually quite boring!lol  I love being at home now, though the house
doesn't seem to be any tidier than it was when I worked. Of course, I didn't
enjoy housework then, either.:)

RA-wise, I'm doing quite well, and am stable. I gained some weight after
leaving my job, but am using my treadmill regularly, and trying to do a
better job of eating well.

We have a lot of extended family stuff that's been happening, but who
doesn't, right? We're busy, in a good way, and I'm having a good time
watching my girl become the amazing woman she will someday be.

Hugs for you, Jo. You're such a doll!

Kelly C.
jofirey - 27 Oct 2007 00:01 GMT
>> Was thinking of you today Kelly as I was talking to one of the kids on
>> the street (so nice to have people around after living in non children/
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>
> Rachel is a 12 year old, trapped in a 20 year old body.lol

When our daughter Vicki was twelve, she spent the summer with my mother.  By
the time she came home my mother was ready to put a t-shirt on her that
said, "leave her alone, she's only twelve".  I mean one place asked for her
drivers license when she needed to cash a travelers check.  College age guys
were flirting with her.  Now she enjoys being tall, but the growing up fast
and early isn't any fun at all when its happening.

Jo
Kelly C. - 27 Oct 2007 06:03 GMT
> When our daughter Vicki was twelve, she spent the summer with my mother.
> By the time she came home my mother was ready to put a t-shirt on her that
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>
> Jo
Oh, lordy, I sure wouldn't know! I was such a late bloomer that other kids
made fun of me. I was short, skinny, and flat as a board until I was 15. lol

Rachel doesn't seem to mind much, as most of her peers (the girls, anyway)
are also blooming right now. The boys don't seem too interested yet, but I
can see high school being an adventure.:(

Kelly C.
Harvey R. Stone - 27 Oct 2007 16:27 GMT
>> When our daughter Vicki was twelve, she spent the summer with my mother.
>> By the time she came home my mother was ready to put a t-shirt on her
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>
> Kelly C.

LOL,,,, over lots of years it seems that the late bloomers were all worth
waiting for.   One of them ended up being a runner up for Miss America and
her sister who was an early bloomer can not hold a candle to her now and
that was 30 years ago....  It seems that late bloomers last longer.   They
both married preachers and have a love of life and people that is amazing.
Hhhm, have not thought about them in years.  thanks
Harv
Kelly C. - 27 Oct 2007 19:18 GMT
> LOL,,,, over lots of years it seems that the late bloomers were all worth
> waiting for.   One of them ended up being a runner up for Miss America and
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> Hhhm, have not thought about them in years.  thanks
> Harv

Well, I sure hope that's true for me, Harv.lol

My Mom and Grammy both were also late bloomers, and they are both still so
lovely. Grammy's 93 now, still has her own apartment, and I think her driver
license is good for another 5 years. *what were they thinking?!*

Kelly C.
Nann Bell - 30 Oct 2007 05:13 GMT
> Well, I sure hope that's true for me, Harv.lol
>
> My Mom and Grammy both were also late bloomers, and they are both still so
> lovely. Grammy's 93 now, still has her own apartment, and I think her driver
> license is good for another 5 years. *what were they thinking?!*

LOL we have a friend who is 91 and has multiple joint and balance issues as
well as macular degeneration and poor hearing - but they renewed her driver's
license!  We can't figure out why, but fortunately she doesn't drive any  
longer.  She tries from time to time, but realizes it's impossible before she
gets out of her fairly long driveway.  sigh.

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Kelly C. - 30 Oct 2007 05:37 GMT
>> Well, I sure hope that's true for me, Harv.lol
>>
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> she
> gets out of her fairly long driveway.  sigh.

LOL! Grammy still drives to church, and lunch after, but that's about it
nowadays. She does drive over to Mom's house a couple times a month, which
is about a 20 minute drive. She's never had more than a fender bender, but
she did knock down all of the driveway lights mom had.lol

Crazy old lady, and I love her to tears.lol

Kelly C.
Joan Carter - 30 Oct 2007 18:27 GMT
>LOL we have a friend who is 91 and has multiple joint and balance issues as
>well as macular degeneration and poor hearing - but they renewed her driver's
>license!  We can't figure out why, but fortunately she doesn't drive any  
>longer.  She tries from time to time, but realizes it's impossible before she
>gets out of her fairly long driveway.  sigh.

Our neighbour across the street was still driving at about ninety
years of age and one time out she had a fender bender. She didn't
drive any after that, but after she had her cataracts removed,
she was in a car with someone one day and said, "Oh, they have
put a new stop sign in." !!!!

Joan
Nann Bell - 27 Oct 2007 14:56 GMT
It sounds like Rachel is remaining her delightful self and doing well despite
all she's been through.  Hopefully they can control her seizures enough that
they don't make puberty even more difficult than it already is!

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> How nice of you to think of us.:)
>
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> Hugs,
> Kelly C.
melodygram - 25 Oct 2007 22:18 GMT
Thanks for sharing, Jo.  It's true, so much of life is loss, and
sometimes it's hard to see the positives.  I'm very glad you've been
able to tend to your knitting.  ;)

After those socks are done, I'd like a scarf... dusty rose, please...
LOL

luv&stuff,
Denise
Kelly - 26 Oct 2007 01:02 GMT
So glad to hear about the knitting.  I have adapted my quilting and have
often thought I should write it all down into an article.  Yes the losses
are too many and we should try to keep them to a minimum if possible.

If I could give two more ideas.  Get a timer and set it to go off before you
would normally feel pain.  Two or 3 sessions in a day are often better than
one long one.  Another idea is to have pillows strategically ready to lean
on with arms if necessary.  I use both of these ideas when hand quilting.  I
also use a rice bag on my shoulders so that I remember to relax the
shoulders while doing hand work.  Might help with the knitting as well.

I love your email - going to save it.  Yes we do learn - even if we would
have rather not at times.  And thank goodness for supportive husbands!

Thanks Jo for the reminder!

Kelly

> Just wanted to share something good that has happened for me in the last
> six weeks or so.
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>
> Jo
Squirrely - 26 Oct 2007 19:49 GMT
That is so good to hear Jo, I am happy for you. Take care and I hope good
things keep happening for you.

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>
> Jo
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 27 Oct 2007 00:27 GMT
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> Just wanted to share something good that has happened for me in the last
> six weeks or so.
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>
> Jo
Nann Bell - 27 Oct 2007 14:56 GMT
hmmmmmmm, I need to ask my mom if she saw that article.  I don't know how
closely she reads AT these days - she missed my letter that was printed!  LOL
She loves to knit and has managed to keep it up through OA starting to hit
her hands hard, but this tip might help her some.  I keep thinking I ought to
take it up - I loved crocheting but wrist issues have stopped that,
cross-stitching now disagrees with my hands so I'm working on bead weaving
now.

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