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Confirmation of Circulatory Arthritis
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ironjustice - 18 Oct 2007 05:06 GMT Home Based Medical Test For Circulation Problems Causing Arthritis
Take an elastic band .. one which will slightly decrease blood flow to your arthritic hand or foot .. leave it on while you sleep ..
SEE .. the difference in PAIN from the decirculized joint and the other nondecirculized joint .. when you wake up or when the PAIN .. wakes you .. up.
Talk to your doctor about getting your blood flowing better by .. any means necessary ..
Bloodletting of small amounts of blood will thin the blood .. hijama theoretically accomplishes .. this ..
This is all theoretical but can be verified by medical studies .. IE: circulation and arthritis
Another one of those studies that can be done in your head ..
Watch out though because this pain is going to be .. bad .. and DON'T say I didn't tell you ..
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ironjustice - 18 Oct 2007 07:03 GMT Home Based Medical Test For Circulation Problems Causing Arthritis
Take an elastic band .. one which will slightly decrease blood flow to your arthritic hand or foot .. leave it on while you sleep .. <<
For the less pain inclined PROOF as some put it .. one can simply look at this article and it clearly shows increased viscosity / thick blood / therefore NONcirculizing .. blood ..
Saving some pain .. in the PROOF as some put it .. as opposed to medical studies ..
<<snip>> Differences in profiles of viscosity variables between subgroups of EAD in RA patients were observed. <<snip>>
Oxford Journals Medicine Rheumatology Volume 32, Number 9 Pp. 774-779
? 1993 British Society for Rheumatology
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research-article
VISCOSITY OF PLASMA AND BLOOD IN RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS M. GUDMUNDSSON and A. BJELLE
Department of Rheumatology, Sahlgren University Hospital Gothenburg, Sweden
Correspondence to: Correspondence: to A. Bjelle, Department of Rheumatology, Sahlgren University Hospital, S-413 45 G?teborg. Sweden
Blood rheology was studied in 130 consecutive RA outpatients, 33 with and 97 without extra-articular disease (EAD), and compared with that in 88 blood donors. All rheological variables were significantly elevated in the RA patients compared with the controls. Painful joint count (PJC), morning stiffness (MS) and radiographic changes (RC) correlated significantly with plasma viscosity (PV), CRP, ESR and fibrinogen concentration (FC), but only in the group without EAD. Corrected blood viscosity (CBV) at a shear rate of 92/s correlated significantly only with MS. Multiple regression with PJC, MS and RC as dependent variables showed significant associations of PJC with PV, MS and CRP and RC with PV. Multiple regression with PV as the dependent variable showed significant associations with FC and IgG. RA patients with EAD had higher PV (P<0.01), CBV at 92/s (P<0.05) and ESR (P<0.05) than the RA patients without EAD. Differences in profiles of viscosity variables between subgroups of EAD in RA patients were observed.
KEY WORDS: Rheumatoid arthritis, Blood viscosity, Plasma viscosity, Haematocrit, Red cell aggregation, Acute phase reactants, Fibrinogen, Erythrocyte sedimentation rate, C-reactive protein, Immunoglobulin
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> SEE .. the difference in PAIN from the decirculized joint and the > other nondecirculized joint .. when you wake up or when the PAIN .. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk ironjustice - 18 Oct 2007 19:16 GMT Traditional medical technique sucks in Iraqis By Rahim Sahib
http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/18362 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Baghdad, 14 June 2007 (AFP) Print article Send to friend Haidar al-Hajam carefully placed the glass jars over the slight incisions on his patient's back and then began to pump out the air. In the ensuing vacuum, the thick dark blood slowly oozed out of the cuts and into the clear containers. "The Assyrians, the Chinese and the ancient Egyptians all used to practice cupping to draw out the corrupt blood," said Hajam as he deftly drained a few more spots on his patient's back in his office in Baghdad's Sadr City slum.
Murtada Abu Ali, 45, has become a regular for this ancient treatment known by its Arabic name of hijama, or sucking, and says it helps him in a way no modern medicine can. "I got fed up with the painkillers doctors were prescribing for my neck ache, so I decided to use hijama and it's great - I urge others to try it," he said.
Increasingly Iraqis are following this advice and the ancient technique is finding renewed popularity in central and southern Iraq as people use it to cope with the stress of the country's unending bloodshed.
The idea behind cupping, which was promoted by ancient Greek physician Galen and medieval Islamic philosopher Ibn Sina [known as Avicenna in the West], is to stimulate the skin and muscles to release toxins and improve blood and lymph circulation. The process is also believed to stimulate the release of histamine-like substances in the skin which boost the immune system.
The immediate result is circular discoloration and bruising where the glass has been placed, but many patients testify that the process leaves them feeling rejuvenated.
The technique has long been used in the Arabian countries of the Gulf and traditionally sections of horn were used, with the vacuum caused either by the healer sucking out air or burning bits of cotton or paper to eliminate the oxygen.
Hajam's tools have progressed with the times, however, and are equipped with tiny pumps to remove the air and grip the skin.
The technique has also been prescribed for fevers and disorders of the inner organs, including liver, stomach, intestines and kidneys and has a firm position on the Western alternative medicine scene.
"The percentage of those who recover is very high, especially those who have diseases of the heart and arteries, as well as diabetes," said Hajam, who sees up to 30 patients a day.
At first, Hajam asks the patient where it hurts and then places his cup on the spot, sucks out the air, and leaves it for a few minutes, before removing the cup. He then makes a number of small cuts, replaces the cup and once again sucks out the air, bleeding the wound for several minutes before sterilizing and bandaging the spot.
The back is the most common area to be cupped, because the "blood stream is slow there and a continuous bleeding is ruled out, furthermore it is less sensitive than other areas," Hajam explained. "Prophet Mohammad himself used hijama. It is for many diseases, from headache to arthritis and sciatica, even for sterility for men and women."
The technique was also traditionally used by the historic pearl divers of the Gulf to prevent diseases before they embarked on their three- month-long pearling expeditions at sea.
"I sought out many physicians but they were all useless, so I decided to try this," said Abu Tariq, 56, now one of Hajam's regulars. "I feel energetic and revived now and will continue doing it."
Mushtaq Razzaq, 20, said it was his uncle who turned him on to the technique. "Before I was always sluggish for no apparent reason, but now I feel this wonderful change come over my body," he said.
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ferrous@paris.com - 18 Oct 2007 19:35 GMT "The idea behind cupping, which was promoted by ancient Greek physician Galen and medieval Islamic philosopher Ibn Sina [known as Avicenna in the West], is to stimulate the skin and muscles to release toxins and improve blood and lymph circulation. The process is also believed to stimulate the release of histamine-like substances in the skin which boost the immune system."
Totally silly notion of course. But it does release iron stores by way of tissue damage. But the body does have two main ways to control iron levels.
Jesus ate a mediterranean diet.
Joan Carter - 18 Oct 2007 15:13 GMT You have now proved beyond reasonable doubt that you are completely out of your everloving mind. Do you have any idea how dangerous this could be? Do you enjoy pain yourself? If so, I suggest you do this to yourself with a very tight elastic, leave it on until your hand or foot begins to turn black.
Good grief, man .
>Home Based Medical Test For Circulation Problems Causing Arthritis > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >DEAD PEOPLE WALKING >http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Donna G. - 18 Oct 2007 16:08 GMT Please people, do NOT follow any of Tommys advice as it can cripple you or worse yet, kill you!!!
Tommy is a very dangerous troll who knows nothing of what he posts/speaks!
BEWARE!!! . . .
ironjustice - 18 Oct 2007 17:07 GMT >> On Oct 18, 7:13 am, Joan Carter <spamf...@sentex.ca> wrote: Do you have any idea how dangerous this could be? <<
OK .. nurse .. tell me .. and no waffling like you and your ILK .. are KNOWN for !!
You've got a big mouth .. always have had a big mouth .. and you will always HAVE a big .. mouth ..
Exactly WHAT kind of .. danger .. do you propose a slight blood reduction to a joint will .. be .. !!
Exactly WHAT kind of .. **danger** .. do you propose a slight blood reduction to a joint will .. be .. !!
Exactly WHAT kind of .. DANGER .. do you propose a slight blood reduction to a joint will .. be .. !!
Exactly WHAT kind of .. **DANGER** .. do you propose a slight blood reduction to a joint will .. be .. !!
Now I hope you are able to understand the question .. ?
It would surprise me .. a whole .. lot ..
A little test to see if the .. child killers .. ARE selling .. a .. bridge .. ?
No doubt you would say .. "DANGER , danger .. DANGER!!" ,, when in fact it is no more problem than having a tight fitting pair of .. socks ..
You'd better make it .. good .. because .. ? .. every post you have EVER made .. is .. ? .. contrary to **support** and that alone makes one wonder about .. you .. and the FACT you ARE a .. nurse / child killer .. makes you even LESS of a person to be .. listening .. TO ..
You understand how .. reason .. works .. ?
Heh .. heh ..
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spodosaurus - 18 Oct 2007 18:23 GMT >>> On Oct 18, 7:13 am, Joan Carter <spamf...@sentex.ca> wrote: Do you have any idea how > dangerous this could be? << [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You've got a big mouth .. always have had a big mouth .. and you will > always HAVE a big .. mouth .. So when are you coming to visit, Tom?
I'm all ready and waiting :)
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Joan Carter - 18 Oct 2007 20:10 GMT He's scared of you, Ari, he doesn't dare go to visit you. :-)
Joan
>>>> On Oct 18, 7:13 am, Joan Carter <spamf...@sentex.ca> wrote: Do you have any idea how >> dangerous this could be? << [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >I'm all ready and waiting :) ironjustice@aol.com - 18 Oct 2007 20:59 GMT > He's scared of you, Ari, he doesn't dare go to visit you. :-) << Anybody who leaves Canada .. the best country in the world .. is stupid ..
Be it for a visit .. somewhere .. to squish some guy in a wheelchair .. or NOT .. it still is stupid ..
IMHO ..
Let him wheel himself over here .. and then I'll think about fulfilling his request of being put out of .. his .. misery ..
I have to say though it WOULD be .. a .. first ..
Crippled guy .. in .. a .. wheelchair ..
I'll have to look in my .. journal .. to .. see .. but I .. don't think .. I've done it .. before.
But I .. HAVE gotten quite drunk .. yaneverknow .. heh heh ..
Just kidding of course ..
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Paul T. Holland - 18 Oct 2007 23:07 GMT another 'your mother wears army boots' post from tom
> > He's scared of you, Ari, he doesn't dare go to visit you. :-) << > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk spodosaurus - 20 Oct 2007 11:33 GMT >> He's scared of you, Ari, he doesn't dare go to visit you. :-) << > > Anybody who leaves Canada .. the best country in the world .. is > stupid .. So your criminal convictions keep you from getting a visa, huh?
> Be it for a visit .. somewhere .. to squish some guy in a > wheelchair .. or NOT .. it still is stupid .. So, when someone says to you that you should come over, then you crawl away and hide. By the way, Tommy, I'm not in a wheelchair :)
> IMHO .. > > Let him wheel himself over here .. and then I'll think about > fulfilling his request of being put out of .. his .. misery .. My request? You offered to visit, Tommy. Don't chicken out now, mate :)
Tell me Tommy, when was the last time you let Jesus (from Mexico) come into you? You know the one I mean.
Cheers,
Ari
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Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 18 Oct 2007 18:55 GMT >>> On Oct 18, 7:13 am, Joan Carter <spamf...@sentex.ca> wrote: Do you have >>> any idea how [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Exactly WHAT kind of .. danger .. do you propose a slight blood > reduction to a joint will .. be .. !! let's see...leaving a rubber band overnight on a arm or leg...esp one where one is checking for decreased blood flow??
can you say....thrombosis..blood clot to YOUR ilk
nerve damage....possible gangrene
you have outdone yourself this time timmy
so sorry the ILK like Joan and I have to point out the obvious to you
yikes
> Exactly WHAT kind of .. **danger** .. do you propose a slight blood > reduction to a joint will .. be .. !! [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Joan Carter - 18 Oct 2007 20:09 GMT High five, Hawki!
Joan
>let's see...leaving a rubber band overnight on a arm or leg...esp one where >one is checking for decreased blood flow?? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >yikes Paul T. Holland - 18 Oct 2007 21:58 GMT add decubitis/ulceration [or the minor form known as chilblains], amniotic adhesions that can lead to spontaneous toe/finger amputation. some forms of carpel tunnel
> >>> On Oct 18, 7:13 am, Joan Carter <spamf...@sentex.ca> wrote: Do you have > >>> any idea how [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 19 Oct 2007 19:07 GMT > add > decubitis/ulceration [or the minor form known as chilblains], > amniotic adhesions that can lead to spontaneous toe/finger amputation. > some forms of carpel tunnel hi paul
good ones!!! just couldn't believe anyone would suggest rubber banding an extremity over night
yikes...
>> >>> On Oct 18, 7:13 am, Joan Carter <spamf...@sentex.ca> wrote: Do you >> >>> have [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] >> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING >> > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk d'huit - 19 Oct 2007 22:53 GMT add decubitis/ulceration [or the minor form known as chilblains], amniotic adhesions that can lead to spontaneous toe/finger amputation. some forms of carpel tunnel
and we won't tell rustyrump that rubber bands are also used to castrate and dehorn in animal husbandry.
kate
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> >>> On Oct 18, 7:13 am, Joan Carter <spamf...@sentex.ca> wrote: Do you > >>> have [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Paul T. Holland - 21 Oct 2007 20:02 GMT > and we won't tell rustyrump that rubber bands are also used to castrate and > dehorn in animal husbandry. > > kate and, given rustyrump - for hemorrhoids <VG>
d'huit - 21 Oct 2007 22:43 GMT d'huit wrote:
> and we won't tell rustyrump that rubber bands are also used to castrate > and > dehorn in animal husbandry. > > kate and, given rustyrump - for hemorrhoids <VG>
LOLOLOL! but, not yet for the biggest one sitting on his shoulders, eh? :-)
k
ironjustice@aol.com - 19 Oct 2007 06:06 GMT >> On Oct 18, 10:55 am, <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: let's see...leaving a rubber band overnight on a arm or leg...esp one where one is checking for decreased blood flow?? can you say....thrombosis..blood clot to YOUR ilk nerve damage....possible gangrene you have outdone yourself this time timmy so sorry the ILK like Joan and I have to point out the obvious to you yikes <<
Now what have we .. NOW ..
We have TWO .. count em .. two .. nurses .. one a nurse from Canada and the other .. oooooo .. a "Nurse Practitioner" .. who say .. "yes .. Tom .. it is the circulation .. and we ARE selling a bridge" ... JUST .. like I .. said ..
The first one .. HER 'claim to fame' .. is .. she PERSONALLY had every sheepskin in Canada removed from hospitals because SHE determined they were .. useless .. I'm not going to say anymore about this .. because of the 'mysterious ways' .. bit .. and this action doesn't BOTHER me a bit .. But her intentions were NOT .. the alleviation of PAIN it was the alleviation of her OWN 'sheepskin getting in her way' .. workload ..
The second .. a nurse practitioner .. who has YET to NOT .. get something .. wrong .. so she can be ignored completely ..
So .. no .. I don't believe slightly decreasing the blood flow to a joint with an elastic band will cause gangrene .. I don't believe it will cause thrombosis .. and I'm pretty sure it won't cause a clot to the .. brain ..
But .. these two .. WITH .. "medical degrees" .. BOTH agree that putting on too tight a sock WILL .. kill you ..
???
You are .. both .. nuts ..
You should start a .. club ..
Maybe NutsRus .. or something like that ..
Or .. Istoletoomanymedsandnowmybrainisbran ..
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Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 19 Oct 2007 19:16 GMT >>> On Oct 18, 10:55 am, <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: let's see...leaving >>> a rubber band overnight on a arm or leg...esp one where one is checking [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > will cause thrombosis .. and I'm pretty sure it won't cause a clot to > the .. brain .. but the thinking world does not care a hoot about what you "think" tommy
> But .. these two .. WITH .. "medical degrees" .. BOTH agree that > putting on too tight a sock WILL .. kill you .. funny as the above may sound to your uneducated mind...yes...tight socks CAN and DO potentially cause damage in a compromised foot...the reason why we always check feet sans socks on diabetics and anyone else with circulatory issues...
in most cases...a sock and a rubber band are different animals...btw...
didn't read in your "cite" about using socks ...your word was "rubber band"...
have never seen a sock with a rubber band ...
wouldn't doubt tho if you have...often times at the homeless shelters we give out defective items
> ??? > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk d'huit - 19 Oct 2007 22:59 GMT geesh, rustyrump, if you really and truly and honestly think you are correct, go ahead and try it! but, don't tell others to do it, until you try it on yourself, first. that way you really can have expertise. just consider this a little encouragement to test your belief on yourself.
kate (soooo looking forward to this particular potential darwin award winner. )
>> On Oct 18, 10:55 am, <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: let's see...leaving a >> rubber band overnight on a arm or leg...esp one where one is checking for >> decreased blood flow?? can you say....thrombosis..blood clot to YOUR ilk nerve damage....possible gangrene you have outdone yourself this time timmy so sorry the ILK like Joan and I have to point out the obvious to you yikes <<
Now what have we .. NOW ..
We have TWO .. count em .. two .. nurses .. one a nurse from Canada and the other .. oooooo .. a "Nurse Practitioner" .. who say .. "yes .. Tom .. it is the circulation .. and we ARE selling a bridge" ... JUST .. like I .. said ..
The first one .. HER 'claim to fame' .. is .. she PERSONALLY had every sheepskin in Canada removed from hospitals because SHE determined they were .. useless .. I'm not going to say anymore about this .. because of the 'mysterious ways' .. bit .. and this action doesn't BOTHER me a bit .. But her intentions were NOT .. the alleviation of PAIN it was the alleviation of her OWN 'sheepskin getting in her way' .. workload ..
The second .. a nurse practitioner .. who has YET to NOT .. get something .. wrong .. so she can be ignored completely ..
So .. no .. I don't believe slightly decreasing the blood flow to a joint with an elastic band will cause gangrene .. I don't believe it will cause thrombosis .. and I'm pretty sure it won't cause a clot to the .. brain ..
But .. these two .. WITH .. "medical degrees" .. BOTH agree that putting on too tight a sock WILL .. kill you ..
???
You are .. both .. nuts ..
You should start a .. club ..
Maybe NutsRus .. or something like that ..
Or .. Istoletoomanymedsandnowmybrainisbran ..
Who loves ya. Tom
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Joan Carter - 18 Oct 2007 20:08 GMT >You'd better make it .. good .. because .. ? .. every post you have >EVER made .. is .. ? .. contrary to **support** and that alone makes >one wonder about .. you .. and the FACT you ARE a .. nurse / child >killer .. makes you even LESS of a person to be .. listening .. TO .. Have you ever heard the word 'libel', Tom?
ironjustice@aol.com - 18 Oct 2007 20:54 GMT Have you ever heard the word 'libel', Tom? <<
Yes I have ..
You don't admit to having killed children in error .. ?
You haven't EVER given a woman iron during her pregnancy .. ?
You practiced as a nurse for many years ..
You have said before that you haven't ever given a woman iron during her pregnancy .. soooo .. I'll take that you are also a liar .. too .. BECAUSE .. ? .. it was ... IS .. and seems with your ILK .. running the show .. WILL ALWAYS .. be .. "recommended" / iron supplement for a pregnant woman ..
So .. the fact you said you haven't given iron to a pregnant woman .. means .. ? .. either you never worked with a pregnant woman patient .. in all your years .. or you simply FORGOT YOUR .. job .. which was .. ? .. the **specific** recommendation OF .. iron supplementation FOR that pregnant .. woman.
Which was it .. you a liar .. ? .. stupid .. ? .. never worked with pregnant women .. ? .. what .. ?
AND as to the 'libel' .. bit .. you will notice the phrase child killer is reserved for doctors and nurses because the iron supplementation of children .. recommended by the WHO has been shown to be killing .. kids ..
Need a cite .. ?
So .. the fact the WHO is run by medical professionals .. therefore YOU .. / ilk .. means .. ?
The medical profession advocates for something which kills .. kids ..
Therefore .. do you know .. in the same vein .. what .. manslaughter .. is .. ?
So .. fo ..
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Joan Carter - 18 Oct 2007 23:44 GMT >You practiced as a nurse for many years .. Sweetcheeks, as you are always so concerned about getting things correct may I gently point out that the word practice, when used as a verb is spelled with an 's', as in practise. The noun is practice, with a 'c'.
As usual your logic is skewed, badly, so I am putting you back in my kill file for a while, you are just too silly. Now be a brave little boy, and don't be scared, you have been in a kill file before and will be again. It won't be new to you.
Bye for now.
Joan
Paul T. Holland - 18 Oct 2007 23:08 GMT joan - since this is tom, isn't that spelled 'babble'?
> >You'd better make it .. good .. because .. ? .. every post you have > >EVER made .. is .. ? .. contrary to **support** and that alone makes > >one wonder about .. you .. and the FACT you ARE a .. nurse / child > >killer .. makes you even LESS of a person to be .. listening .. TO .. > > Have you ever heard the word 'libel', Tom? d'huit - 19 Oct 2007 22:50 GMT You have now proved beyond reasonable doubt that you are completely out of your everloving mind. Do you have any idea how dangerous this could be? Do you enjoy pain yourself? If so, I suggest you do this to yourself with a very tight elastic, leave it on until your hand or foot begins to turn black.
Good grief, man .
yabbut, joan . . . once his hand or foot begins to turn black, we don't want him going to see one of those "horrible" western medical doctors he always rails about.
sooo, rustyrump, just follow joan's instructions, but do let it continue to turn black and please do continue to be very afraid of those "horrible" western medicine practicing doctors, who might just give you a dose of iron, for no good reason at all. whatever you do, rustyrump, don't take the chance of seeing a doctor with your black foot or hand. you never know, they might just be out to inject you with iron!
kate
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:06:10 -0700, ironjustice <teamtanner@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Home Based Medical Test For Circulation Problems Causing Arthritis > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >DEAD PEOPLE WALKING >http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Harvey R. Stone - 20 Oct 2007 03:33 GMT > for no good reason at all. whatever you do, rustyrump, don't take the > chance of seeing a doctor with your black foot or hand. you never know, > they might just be out to inject you with iron! > > kate LOLOLOL
crinoidgirl - 20 Oct 2007 22:15 GMT Thank you Joan/Paul/Kate!
V
california_chief - 24 Oct 2007 03:38 GMT > Home Based Medical Test For Circulation Problems Causing Arthritis > > Take an elastic band .. one which will slightly decrease blood flow to > your arthritic hand or foot .. leave it on while you sleep .. > > SEE .. the difference in PAIN Maybe if you tried that on your neck while you slept, we'd be rid of the pain of you.
... Inferiority Complex (n): A lowlier-than-thou attitude, i.e. Tommy.
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