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Dave - 23 Sep 2007 08:51 GMT
Anyone know if Glucosamine has an adverse effect on blood pressure?

BP was normal in August. Then I started taking Glucosamine. Now it's
high enough to hinder me having my knee replaced.

Other factors might be having an effect too - I'm screwed up rigid at
the moment, though I don't really know why.

Thanks for listening,

Cheers,

Dave

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tony sayer - 23 Sep 2007 10:22 GMT
In article <dave-3DA385.08510623092007@news.demon.co.uk>, Dave
<dave@DavidOSmith.co.uk> scribeth thus
>Anyone know if Glucosamine has an adverse effect on blood pressure?
>
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>
>Dave

I've tried it in the past, but after a month or so it brings my gout on
quite bad, but can't say it affected the BP. I'm on Amlodpine for that
other BP meds might be more adversely affected..
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Shirley Shone - 23 Sep 2007 14:33 GMT
>In article <dave-3DA385.08510623092007@news.demon.co.uk>, Dave
><dave@DavidOSmith.co.uk> scribeth thus
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>quite bad, but can't say it affected the BP. I'm on Amlodpine for that
>other BP meds might be more adversely affected..

When I was on Amlodpine it looked has if I were wearing bright red knee
length socks. Very swollen legs and feet. Did not stay on that very
long. I take Atenolol syrup for BP. I am allergic to the E110 colour
(sunset Yellow) in the tablets.
Shirley
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Dave - 24 Sep 2007 10:59 GMT
Thanks for the info, everybody.

I get a BP check tomorrow, so we'll see how I'm getting on.

Cheers for now,

Dave

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mymail@hotmail.com - 25 Sep 2007 23:29 GMT
> I take Atenolol syrup for BP.

Yet another very helpful post I am on Atenolol tabs
but not keen on them they tend to upset my guts I shall be asking my
doc on Thursday about going on the syrup .
Shirley Shone - 26 Sep 2007 07:04 GMT
>> I take Atenolol syrup for BP.
>
>Yet another very helpful post I am on Atenolol tabs
>but not keen on them they tend to upset my guts I shall be asking my
>doc on Thursday about going on the syrup .

When I had the tablets I was crippled with pain in the stomach and more
so when they put more colour on the tablets. The chemist tried to tell
me they were the same. I had a sympathetic doctor who contacted the
makers, and yes they had put more on.
It is the E110 colour additive that causes the problem. It is put on
dyed kippers, smoked mackerel etc. I cannot eat those only the genuine
oaked smoked ones.
The syrup is quite pleasant to taste and clear in colour.

Somewhere I read that if you cannot tolerate dyed smoked foods that you
may not be able to take aspirin.
That is true in my case since all aspirin related drug makes me come out
in a rash. Which makes it harder to control my arthritic pains.
I had to stop taking Glucosemine because it inhibits production of
insulin and I am type2 diabetic.
Like wise I had to stop taking omega3 oils because that thins the blood
and I take Clopidogrel after having 6 stents in my heart.
It is a case of helping one thing and hindering another.
Such is life.

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mymail@hotmail.com - 26 Sep 2007 13:07 GMT
>It is a case of helping one thing and hindering another.
>Such is life.

Isn't that he case with the drugs our GP's prescribe for us they all
seem to cause has much trouble in other ways has what they are
supposed to help if I took all that is prescribed for me I would be on
my back in bed for most of the week.
Over the years I have found my own ways of helping myself regarding
various ailments that I suffer from not that my GP would approve if
she knew though had I not seen your posting last night regarding
Atenolol that was about to go on my banned list also :)))))))) .
Alan Fisher - 26 Sep 2007 19:20 GMT
> >It is a case of helping one thing and hindering another.
> >Such is life.
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> supposed to help if I took all that is prescribed for me I would be on
> my back in bed for most of the week.

Ain't that the truth!  I have a bad reaction to Naproxen and the one I can
never name correctly (ludene or Lodine or?), both of which make me, well,
stupid*.  When I told this to my rheumy he said he could give me something
to counteract that.  I said, "No - take me off it and give me something
else".  And somehow I managed to avoid adding, "you muppet!".

AF

* = for the benefit of those who know me, yes I did mean 'even more stupid'.
mymail@hotmail.com - 26 Sep 2007 21:05 GMT
>Ain't that the truth!  I have a bad reaction to Naproxen and the one I can
>never name correctly (ludene or Lodine or?), both of which make me, well,
>stupid*.  When I told this to my rheumy he said he could give me something
>to counteract that.  I said, "No - take me off it and give me something
>else".  And somehow I managed to avoid adding, "you muppet!".

Don't some of them make you want to say something like this Alan ?
whenever I am prescribed anything new I am straight on the net and
finding out about it before ever going anywhere near a chemist shop
if I do not like what I am reading the script goes straight through
the shredder . I count myself very lucky after going through six
doctors in as many months I dropped on the one I have had since and
she is the bees knees I have never had a GP that I have liked has
much. She calls a spade a spade speaks with a good full Lancashire
accent none of your plumb in the gob talk and no thinking she is
better than I attitude either .
We discus my treatment she does not tell me what to do or else sort of
thing and we get on just great only problem I have with her she is
popular it takes two weeks to get an appointment with her .
tony sayer - 26 Sep 2007 21:45 GMT
>We discus my treatment she does not tell me what to do or else sort of
>thing and we get on just great

>only problem I have with her she is
>popular it takes two weeks to get an appointment with her .

I reckon thats a good sign;))
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sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 27 Sep 2007 02:26 GMT
I am presently looking for a new doctor (GP) since the one I had been using
for 7 years retired.  I really liked him and two of his employees were real
good friends of our family.  I started out with one of his partners (before
he retired), but he is now a resident advisor for the big hospital here and
only sees patients 4 mornings a week.  Takes at least 3 months to get an
appointment and you have to go through so much rigamarole then that it just
isn't worth it.  Will see my cardiologist Monday and hope he will know some
one to recommend.  It is so hard to lose a good doctor!
Gwen

>>Ain't that the truth!  I have a bad reaction to Naproxen and the one I can
>>never name correctly (ludene or Lodine or?), both of which make me, well,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> thing and we get on just great only problem I have with her she is
> popular it takes two weeks to get an appointment with her .
tony sayer - 26 Sep 2007 21:44 GMT
In article <qpikf31r2hg48mjfst0diptiad4b7k33om@4ax.com>,
mymail@hotmail.com scribeth thus

>>It is a case of helping one thing and hindering another.
>>Such is life.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>supposed to help if I took all that is prescribed for me I would be on
>my back in bed for most of the week.

Its called "side effects" its a lot of things together i.e. how your
body reacts to various ingredients of each drug etc. My chemist showed
me all the things I could get from my blood pressure tablets, he said
"pick your aliment"!. Still they keep my heart from being over stressed
so thats the best effect:)

Then of course use more than the one drug at a time and multiply that
up!..

>Over the years I have found my own ways of helping myself regarding
>various ailments that I suffer from not that my GP would approve if
>she knew though had I not seen your posting last night regarding
>Atenolol that was about to go on my banned list also :)))))))) .

I reckon if it works and it works for you and its doing no real harm
then its good medicine!. A tame helpful GP who will let you try and in
fact encourage you to do that but advise and warn you of any ill effects
is a GP worth having!..
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mymail@hotmail.co.uk - 29 Sep 2007 21:55 GMT
>The syrup is quite pleasant to taste and clear in colour.

Got the syrup yesterday all 600ml of it  and so far so good no ill
effects at all Shirley my GP said when I asked if it is done in a
syrup you can have it no problem .
Shirley Shone - 29 Sep 2007 22:37 GMT
>>The syrup is quite pleasant to taste and clear in colour.
>
>Got the syrup yesterday all 600ml of it  and so far so good no ill
>effects at all Shirley my GP said when I asked if it is done in a
>syrup you can have it no problem .

I have been taking the syrup for 4 years. Took the tablets for 17years
before that when they were pale pink in colour.
I hope it suits you too since it has not got a load of additives.
Thanks for letting me know.
Shirley

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mymail@hotmail.co.uk - 29 Sep 2007 23:35 GMT
>I hope it suits you too since it has not got a load of additives.
>Thanks for letting me know.
>Shirley
Your welcome Shirley and thanks once again for mentioning it here the
other day you know it goes down so well it makes me feel like putting
the whole bottle in a glass and drinking the lot in one go it is so
good but will have to just to keep looking forward to the next two
spoonfuls :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))).  You will have guessed
after what I have just said that I am a pop head not beer head:)))))).
mymail@hotmail.com - 25 Sep 2007 23:26 GMT
>I've tried it in the past, but after a month or so it brings my gout on
>quite bad,

Thanks for posting this Tony I was going to give it a go but would
sooner have a bit of knee ache than yet another dose of gout.
Kelly - 23 Sep 2007 17:31 GMT
The only reference I can find on the net is if the glucosomine you are
taking contains high sodium (some vitamin and supplements do unfortunately -
not sure why??)

I would suspect something else though.  It wasn't a case of white coat
syndrome with the surgery coming up was it??

Will be thinking of you and hoping it doesn't hold things up too long.

kelly

> Anyone know if Glucosamine has an adverse effect on blood pressure?
>
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>
> Dave
Jayne - 23 Sep 2007 19:31 GMT
> Anyone know if Glucosamine has an adverse effect on blood pressure?
>
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>
> Dave

Hi Dave

Apparently it is processed using salt, and I put "glucosamine and blood
pressure" in on google - tje first reference mentions it.
http://www.a1msm.co.uk/glucosamine-dosages.htm

Jayne
d'huit - 23 Sep 2007 20:46 GMT
Anyone know if Glucosamine has an adverse effect on blood pressure?

BP was normal in August. Then I started taking Glucosamine. Now it's
high enough to hinder me having my knee replaced.

Other factors might be having an effect too - I'm screwed up rigid at
the moment, though I don't really know why.

Thanks for listening,

Cheers,

Dave

hi dave!

you've received some good direct answers on this thread.  another thing to
consider is your pain level.  uncontrolled pain also increases blood
pressure.

kate

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Paul T. Holland - 23 Sep 2007 22:05 GMT
tagging on several answers you've already gotten

of itself, all the major studies show no correlation  - 'but -

some preparations include [small amounts of] salt and 'that' can
increase bp for those sensitive

also, many take glu. with other supplements that 'can' increase bp, plus
several of the nsaids are known to increase bp -

add in that pain itself  will cause a jump - and i suspect that a full
review will show that you have one or more contributing factors not the
glu.

> Anyone know if Glucosamine has an adverse effect on blood pressure?
>
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> Dave Smith
> Wordsmith and yarnspinner, singer and storyteller
jofirey - 23 Sep 2007 22:09 GMT
> Anyone know if Glucosamine has an adverse effect on blood pressure?
>
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>
> Thanks for listening,

I have no idea if Glucosamine can affect you blood pressure.  But I know for
a fact than pain can raise it considerably.

Jo

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