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New algorithm matches any tumor cells to best possible anti-cancer treatments

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danielbrown.gb@gmail.com - 15 Aug 2007 10:11 GMT
Cancer patients don't have time to waste. Many go through several
different treatments, however, to find one that is more effective
against their particular type of tumor.

http://theanalystmagazine.com/pr/n999.html

Thus, an algorithm that could help rapidly sort molecular information
about a patient's particular tumor and could help match this
information to the right drug treatment would be a breakthrough of
enormous value. Here is a proposal from some researchers.
Spider Pig - 15 Aug 2007 10:21 GMT
>Thus, an algorithm that could help rapidly sort molecular information
>about a patient's particular tumor and could help match this
>information to the right drug treatment would be a breakthrough of
>enormous value. Here is a proposal from some researchers.

yeh, let's all do the march

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDSGmx8c2AM
Harvey R. Stone - 15 Aug 2007 14:13 GMT
>>Thus, an algorithm that could help rapidly sort molecular information
>>about a patient's particular tumor and could help match this
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDSGmx8c2AM

Thanks for that,,,, enjoyed,, laughed,,, admitted to myself that I could not
do that without making a mistake.
Harv
Spider Pig - 15 Aug 2007 18:52 GMT
>>>Thus, an algorithm that could help rapidly sort molecular information
>>>about a patient's particular tumor and could help match this
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>do that without making a mistake.
>Harv

Ah but you're not a Ninja Harv...

There's a whole series of them, I quite the Airport one..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_15D1pz_ya8&mode=related&search=
Spider Pig - 15 Aug 2007 19:01 GMT
[should have read]
There's a whole series of them, I quite like the Airport one..

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_15D1pz_ya8&mode=related&search=
Harvey R. Stone - 16 Aug 2007 03:32 GMT
> There's a whole series of them, I quite the Airport one..
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_15D1pz_ya8&mode=related&search=

I am tellen ya,,,,, if that is the crew,,,,  I would not get on that
plane......

Harv
Salmon Egg - 15 Aug 2007 18:47 GMT
On 8/15/07 2:11 AM, in article
1187169095.999487.225820@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com,

> Cancer patients don't have time to waste. Many go through several
> different treatments, however, to find one that is more effective
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> information to the right drug treatment would be a breakthrough of
> enormous value. Here is a proposal from some researchers.

Sounds great. Why am I skeptical?

Bill
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Alex B., - 15 Aug 2007 21:15 GMT
> On 8/15/07 2:11 AM, in article
> 1187169095.999487.225820@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>
> Sounds great. Why am I skeptical?

I could write a book about why you should be skeptical, but I'll just
say that the basic genome math was completed in 2000 and the Folding @
Home project has been working on applications since then and people with
RA, MS, cancer etc. haven't see many of the specialized medications that
could be being made.

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=7

http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journa
l.pbio.0000082


http://www.sanger.ac.uk/PostGenomics/epigenome/

It sure looks like there is more profit in looking for cures, for the
current corporate medical community, than there is in using the
information they have.

GrampaHugs,
Alex,

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d'huit - 16 Aug 2007 00:44 GMT
Salmon Egg wrote:
> On 8/15/07 2:11 AM, in article
> 1187169095.999487.225820@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>>
> Sounds great. Why am I skeptical?

I could write a book about why you should be skeptical, but I'll just
say that the basic genome math was completed in 2000 and the Folding @
Home project has been working on applications since then and people with
RA, MS, cancer etc. haven't see many of the specialized medications that
could be being made.

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=7

http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journa
l.pbio.0000082


http://www.sanger.ac.uk/PostGenomics/epigenome/

It sure looks like there is more profit in looking for cures, for the
current corporate medical community, than there is in using the
information they have.

GrampaHugs,
Alex,

ok, now i'm confused, or totally lost.  why wouldn't creating an algorithm
that matches current drugs/treatments to specific, correspondingly
susceptible, cancer tumors be a useful tool for any oncologist?  when i
looked at the epigenomic sites, it seemed to make even more sense to me that
it would be useful, considering all the variables.

i tend to be more than sceptical about our "current corporate medical
community" even wanting to find cures--(and less sceptical about) vs. their
wanting to find longterm treatments, which would generate more profits in
the long run.

kate

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Alex B., - 16 Aug 2007 02:03 GMT
> wrote:
>> On 8/15/07 2:11 AM, in article
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> correspondingly susceptible, cancer tumors be a useful tool for any
> oncologist?

I'm sure an algorithm or even a searchable database would be helpful.
but there isn't one in use or many oncologist don't know about it even
though the information has been available for years.

Over the past 20 years how many times have they talked about new
breakthrough cancer treatments on the national news but that treatment
is never heard about again.

> when i looked at the epigenomic sites, it seemed to make even more
> sense to me that it would be useful, considering all the variables.

It would be if we could be sure that we would ever benefit from it.

> i tend to be more than sceptical about our "current corporate medical
>  community" even wanting to find cures--(and less sceptical about)
> vs. their wanting to find longterm treatments, which would generate
> more profits in the long run.

I'm a lot more than skeptical, I get angery at the apathy of the
"current corporate medical community" when I think where is that
treatment that was talked about years ago.

> kate

GrampaHugs,
Alex,

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d'huit - 16 Aug 2007 04:22 GMT
d'huit wrote:
> "Alex B.," <apbarna@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gNOdnein26BYw17bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com... Salmon Egg
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> correspondingly susceptible, cancer tumors be a useful tool for any
> oncologist?

I'm sure an algorithm or even a searchable database would be helpful.
but there isn't one in use or many oncologist don't know about it even
though the information has been available for years.

***y'know, when you consider the scientific mentality, the almost compulsive
data/record keeping, my sense is that there simply must be a database
somewhere.  but too, so many "new" discoveries have been retrieved from
very old and dusty archived data that has been applied to new research.

Over the past 20 years how many times have they talked about new
breakthrough cancer treatments on the national news but that treatment
is never heard about again.

***boy, i hear that.  it's also true of wonderful patents (like carburetors
that run on water), have never seen the marketplace.

> when i looked at the epigenomic sites, it seemed to make even more
> sense to me that it would be useful, considering all the variables.

It would be if we could be sure that we would ever benefit from it.

***a friend once mentioned to me, and i'm truncating what she said about
something specific and applying it a bit more broadly---some things can be
more about the advancement of medicine itself than about the patients who
are supposed to benefit from the advances in medicine.

> i tend to be more than sceptical about our "current corporate medical
>  community" even wanting to find cures--(and less sceptical about)
> vs. their wanting to find longterm treatments, which would generate
> more profits in the long run.

I'm a lot more than skeptical, I get angery at the apathy of the
"current corporate medical community" when I think where is that
treatment that was talked about years ago.

***i tend to think the "current corporate medical community" is not as
apathetic about their bottomlines, as they are about cures.  and that makes
me angry.

> kate

GrampaHugs,
Alex,

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