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d'huit - 31 Jul 2007 00:43 GMT
i feel like just saying, "whine, whine, whine." and "wah, wah, wah." and
letting it go at that--it's just how i feel.  my energy level has simply
tanked to the point where even thinking about complaining about being tired
feels like it takes too much effort (and i haven't done anything to warrant
this level of fatigue).

my older sister's shoulder/rotator cuff surgery went well and she's
recovering nicely.  spend the entire day with her, yesterday.

my s-i-l recovered from her radiation pill treatment nicely--no trace of
thyroid cancer now.  unfortunately, she left here, while still on a
month-long vacation, to attend just a weekend family gathering at a hotel in
calif.  she returned here (staying with her daughter near here), with a
broken foot, broken rib and broken shoulder--fell in the hotel.  what a
rough year for that poor dear!

had fun with my grandson, here for a month, who is now back in az.

my double carport looks good, finally painted, thanks to my nephew.

etc., etc., and more etc. . . . just demostrating how all the the bad stuff
belongs to other people and the good stuff is mine; and of course, i'm
grateful for the good stuff.

it was a beautiful morning, is a beautiful day outside, and a squirrel is
being comedian-cute outside my office slider, this very moment.  i awoke at
5 this morning, with active spinal owies.  so, i took a pain pill/tramadol
and have been wiped out ever since i did.  it's like the pill completely
drained my energy for the entire day (which is impossible, because i've been
taking it for years and have never had this reaction).  and i know the
pill's half-life should be well-passed by now, 4-6 hours after i took it;
and i haven't taken another one, cuz i just can't get my brain to engage
properly (you should see how many backspacing corrections i've been making
as i write this.).  and yes, my back is nagging a bit, but that's nothing
new.

i'm trying to figure out what in the heck hit me, to make me so fatigued
today that i'm practically non-functional--meaning, totally non-functional
for any and all practical matters/things.  things i need to do and should do
today, i just can't function well enough to do.  having trouble focusing on
anything, even this.  and no, i don't have cfs.  i literally want to lie my
head down on the keyboard; but i'm fighting that impulse, cuz i'd type worse
than my cat does if i did that and i wouldn't sleep anyway.  i tried lying
down, but can't seem to sleep; keep getting up.  so, it must not be sleep
that's needed.

it feels like i did a pps "hitting the wall" thing, but i haven't
done/overdone anything to hit the wall for.  dang.  somebody please hand me
a piece of cheese, cuz i'm too tired to fix myself something to eat or to
even slice off a piece of cheese for myself.  i totally feel like a
hypochondriac, who has no legitimate reason, that i can name, to feel this
tired.

hope it's ok to whine about being tired, when there's no reason to be.

k
Harvey R. Stone - 31 Jul 2007 01:12 GMT
> it feels like i did a pps "hitting the wall" thing, but i haven't
> done/overdone anything to hit the wall for.  dang.  somebody please hand
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>
> k

Sure its OK and all of us do it.   I usually give myself a couple of days of
this and fill that time with rest with no stressful periods if I can get
them.  I usually get me some of those under the tongue B 12 dots and go back
to taking magnesium every day.   I try to lay off the heavy meals (drives my
wife nuts on what to cook).  If it continues, its time for a blood test to
see if all the counts are OK and my RD and I go Hhhhhm and if we do that
together,,, we see who smiles first.  He looses allot.  Please work with
your doctor if it continues.
Harv
d'huit - 02 Aug 2007 19:33 GMT
> it feels like i did a pps "hitting the wall" thing, but i haven't
> done/overdone anything to hit the wall for.  dang.  somebody please hand
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>
> k

Sure its OK and all of us do it.   I usually give myself a couple of days of
this and fill that time with rest with no stressful periods if I can get
them.  I usually get me some of those under the tongue B 12 dots and go back
to taking magnesium every day.   I try to lay off the heavy meals (drives my
wife nuts on what to cook).  If it continues, its time for a blood test to
see if all the counts are OK and my RD and I go Hhhhhm and if we do that
together,,, we see who smiles first.  He looses allot.  Please work with
your doctor if it continues.
Harv

thanks, guy!  i decided to see if i could get in to see my doc right away.
she had a 15 min. appmt. cancellation.  result--i'm just a bit anemic.

i should have known/guessed that!  duhhhh . . . cuz it happens to me, every
once in awhile, since i was an infant  (i don't know if being a p.a.
baby--needed a complete blood transfusion--has anything to do with it,
though.)   i haven't been anemic since butch was in the hospital icu and the
blood mobile personnel sent me to my doctor while refusing to allow me to
donate blood, which also happens once in awhile.  (the blood bank bus was
conveniently in the hospital parking lot.) that was 5 years ago, i think.
but, i'm feeling better now.

thanks, again, guy.

kate
jofirey - 31 Jul 2007 01:25 GMT
>i feel like just saying, "whine, whine, whine." and "wah, wah, wah." and
> letting it go at that--it's just how i feel.  my energy level has simply
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> warrant
> this level of fatigue).

> hope it's ok to whine about being tired, when there's no reason to be.

Better be OK cause lots of us do it.  There is just something so
discouraging about being wiped out without having anything to show for it.

Two things I try to make myself do when I feel like that are to drink water
and to get outside.  Sitting outside doing nothing makes me feel better than
sitting inside doing nothing.

Hope you get a decent nights sleep and have a better tomorrow.

Jo
d'huit - 02 Aug 2007 19:35 GMT
>i feel like just saying, "whine, whine, whine." and "wah, wah, wah." and
> letting it go at that--it's just how i feel.  my energy level has simply
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> warrant
> this level of fatigue).

> hope it's ok to whine about being tired, when there's no reason to be.

Better be OK cause lots of us do it.  There is just something so
discouraging about being wiped out without having anything to show for it.

Two things I try to make myself do when I feel like that are to drink water
and to get outside.  Sitting outside doing nothing makes me feel better than
sitting inside doing nothing.

Hope you get a decent nights sleep and have a better tomorrow.

Jo

thanks, jo.  your soaking in the sunshine ritual really appeals to
me.<smile>

kate
Diane - 31 Jul 2007 01:26 GMT
i'm slicing some cheese for you, kate. extra sharp cheddar to perk you
up! i hope you get to bed early, sleep well, and wake up feeling much
peppier tomorrow. just pack it in for today. some days are simply lost
causes.

hugs,
diane
Ann Marie - 31 Jul 2007 01:52 GMT
It was explained to me years ago that overwhelming fatigue is part of my
RA process.  A few years ago I was diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy
and that doctor suggested B12 shots since my blood was very low in it.
Have been having the shots ever since and I can always tell when I need
one because I feel just as you described.  Three of my docs will give me
the shot so I never have to wait too long.  Just a thought that you
might ask for a blood test to be sure your levels are high enough.   I
also take huge potassium pills twice a day because of taking lasix and
if I forget to take them I will get hit with fatigue.  Hope you can find
a reason so you can search out a cure.

Ann
d'huit - 02 Aug 2007 19:40 GMT
It was explained to me years ago that overwhelming fatigue is part of my
RA process.  A few years ago I was diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy
and that doctor suggested B12 shots since my blood was very low in it.
Have been having the shots ever since and I can always tell when I need
one because I feel just as you described.  Three of my docs will give me
the shot so I never have to wait too long.  Just a thought that you
might ask for a blood test to be sure your levels are high enough.   I
also take huge potassium pills twice a day because of taking lasix and
if I forget to take them I will get hit with fatigue.  Hope you can find
a reason so you can search out a cure.

Ann

thanks, ann.  i don't have ra, but you were on track with the shot.  did get
one and i**n pills.  honestly, i should have known what the problem was.  i
think the fact that the last episode was so long ago, it never occurred to
me.  i'm doing better, thank you.

kate
d'huit - 02 Aug 2007 19:37 GMT
i'm slicing some cheese for you, kate. extra sharp cheddar to perk you
up! i hope you get to bed early, sleep well, and wake up feeling much
peppier tomorrow. just pack it in for today. some days are simply lost
causes.

hugs,
diane

it was definitely "a lost cause" day.  btw, i love extra sharp cheddar!  i'm
feeling much better now.  thank you, sweetie.

kate
Squirrely - 31 Jul 2007 09:07 GMT
Perfectly ok to whine about the tiredness. we often say how we are sick and
tired of being sick and tired. ;-)

I am tired just reading your post. LOL ;-) I wasn't here but sure feel like
I got tired while you were doing all this stuff. ;-)

I think the heat makes you more tired too. Also there is a virus going
around that makes you tirer than usual. Just some thoughts that I had.

but I think anyone would have been tired going thru all that you have and in
such a short time too.

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Jo the squirrely one

>i feel like just saying, "whine, whine, whine." and "wah, wah, wah." and
> letting it go at that--it's just how i feel.  my energy level has simply
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> k
nanny - 01 Aug 2007 05:23 GMT
Like Squirrely said, hot, humid weather alone can really "zap" us!  This
whole week here in Ohio is supposed to be in the low 90's.  I never feel as
well when the temp is that high.  It's been dry here too, so there are more
allergans in the air.  My skin always feels clammy at these times.  Hope you
regain some strength soon!  Nanny
> Perfectly ok to whine about the tiredness. we often say how we are sick
> and tired of being sick and tired. ;-)
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d'huit - 02 Aug 2007 19:49 GMT
Like Squirrely said, hot, humid weather alone can really "zap" us!  This
whole week here in Ohio is supposed to be in the low 90's.  I never feel as
well when the temp is that high.  It's been dry here too, so there are more
allergans in the air.  My skin always feels clammy at these times.  Hope you
regain some strength soon!  Nanny

i think most people get a case of what i call "the slows" when the heat and
humidity are high.  anemia is definitely a different kind of zapped, though.
all taken care of and feeling much better already.  thanks, nanny!

kate

> Perfectly ok to whine about the tiredness. we often say how we are sick
> and tired of being sick and tired. ;-)
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>> k
d'huit - 02 Aug 2007 19:44 GMT
Perfectly ok to whine about the tiredness. we often say how we are sick and
tired of being sick and tired. ;-)

I am tired just reading your post. LOL ;-) I wasn't here but sure feel like
I got tired while you were doing all this stuff. ;-)

I think the heat makes you more tired too. Also there is a virus going
around that makes you tirer than usual. Just some thoughts that I had.

but I think anyone would have been tired going thru all that you have and in
such a short time too.

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Jo the squirrely one

LOL!  dang.  maybe i shouldn't write about how tired i am if it wears you
out just reading about it.<giggling>  fullplate/emotionally tired and the
tired i was feeling are two different critters.  or at least for me they
seem to feel different.  thanks, sweetie.

kate

>i feel like just saying, "whine, whine, whine." and "wah, wah, wah." and
> letting it go at that--it's just how i feel.  my energy level has simply
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> k
Squirrely - 04 Aug 2007 08:41 GMT
Actually I was just joking with you about it. I have been really tired
though but that is because I am sick again. Never a dull moment around here.
;-)

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Jo the squirrely one

> LOL!  dang.  maybe i shouldn't write about how tired i am if it wears you
> out just reading about it.<giggling>  fullplate/emotionally tired and the
> tired i was feeling are two different critters.  or at least for me they
> seem to feel different.  thanks, sweetie.
>
> kate
Cindy - 31 Jul 2007 13:53 GMT
Kate, Lots of hugs and just go with it..don't fight it, cause it does no
good at all...
Sounds like you were hit with the Fibro Monster...or at least his brother...
That is exactly what happens during a flare and it can hit with no apparent
reason at all...Probably is RA doing its impersonation of FM..LOL...
Like I said....don't fight it..your body is telling on you...for even
thinking about having fun...REST...And tomorrow it should be better..
Cindy
>i feel like just saying, "whine, whine, whine." and "wah, wah, wah." and
> letting it go at that--it's just how i feel.  my energy level has simply
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>
> k
d'huit - 02 Aug 2007 19:56 GMT
Kate, Lots of hugs and just go with it..don't fight it, cause it does no
good at all...
Sounds like you were hit with the Fibro Monster...or at least his brother...
That is exactly what happens during a flare and it can hit with no apparent
reason at all...Probably is RA doing its impersonation of FM..LOL...
Like I said....don't fight it..your body is telling on you...for even
thinking about having fun...REST...And tomorrow it should be better..
Cindy

thank you for the hugs, hon.  don't have ra or fibro.  turned out to be
another bout of anemia, which happens occassionally.    i didn't have much
choice in doing nothing.LOL  it was all i could do to drive myself to my pc
doc's office 5-minutes from here.  went in, got treated and am doing much
better already.  amazing what a little shot and tiny pills will do.  thanks
again, cindy.

kate
>i feel like just saying, "whine, whine, whine." and "wah, wah, wah." and
> letting it go at that--it's just how i feel.  my energy level has simply
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>
> k
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 31 Jul 2007 21:15 GMT
Your body just wants pampering. A nice bubble bath, or hot shower, watch a
movie or just do something nice for you. Rest. Unless you have a commitment
you absolutely can't get out of, stay home for a few days and just pamper
you.

Lovin' you - DeeTee

>i feel like just saying, "whine, whine, whine." and "wah, wah, wah." and
> letting it go at that--it's just how i feel.  my energy level has simply
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>
> k
d'huit - 02 Aug 2007 20:07 GMT
Your body just wants pampering. A nice bubble bath, or hot shower, watch a
movie or just do something nice for you. Rest. Unless you have a commitment
you absolutely can't get out of, stay home for a few days and just pamper
you.

Lovin' you - DeeTee

LOL!  sweetie, i didn't even have the energy to desire pampering.  and i
know you know how hedonistic i am--which is why i'm giggling, cuz you know
how appealing you are about me pampering me.  but i could barely get my butt
to my pc's office and back, just 1 and 1/2 miles from here.  again, i should
have known it was another bout with anemia.  but i took your advice and
pampered myself after the shot and pills began to help.  lovely laying
about.  not cuz i have to, but because i want to is what makes it
lovely.<smile>  thank you for loving me, deetee.  i'm always/ever loving
you, too, sweetie.

kate

>i feel like just saying, "whine, whine, whine." and "wah, wah, wah." and
> letting it go at that--it's just how i feel.  my energy level has simply
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>
> k
 
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