Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / September 2007
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ironjustice - 06 Jul 2007 21:45 GMT Topically applied lecithin .. ?
MMP-1 is inhibited by lecithin / phytic acid ..
J Autoimmun 2002 Nov;19(3):161-8
These results indicated that the over-expression of MMP-1 in RA SF might be related to the activation of DDR2, and collagen II, act as DDR2 ligand, might be one of the stimulators of the over-expression of MMP-1 of RA SF.
PMID: 12419287, UI: 22307318
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This article specifically states .. MMP-1 is TOTALLY ABOLISHED by phytic acid.
<<snip>> Phytic acid, a naturally occurring compound present in food, is an anti-angiogenic compound because it inhibits the activation of pro- MMP-1 and the activity of MMP-1. <<snip>>
23 Interaction of metalloproteinase-1 (MMP-1) with phytic acid: Antiangiogenic activity of phytic acid R. R. BANSODE and J. N. Losso. Food Science, Louisiana State University, 111 Food Science Building, Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, LA 70803
There is strong evidence that metalloproteinases (MMPs) participate in cardiovascular diseases, angiogenesis, tumor growth, and metastasis. Gelatinase I (MMP-1), is secreted as an inactive proenzyme (pro-MMP-1) and must be activated before it can act as a catalyst of collagen degradation. Activators of pro-MMP-1 include serine proteinases and prooxidants. In most chronic diseases, such as cancer, arthritis, inflammation, and diabetes, the concentration of endogenous inhibitors is often low to counteract the action of over expressed proteinases. Inhibitors of MMPs are thus attractive targets for degenerative disease prevention and possibly treatment. Phytic acid (myo-inositol hexaphosphate) is naturally occurring in dicotyledonous and monocotyledonous seeds. Although an inverse relationship between phytic acid concentration in the diet and cancer rate has been demonstrated, the mechanism by which phytic acid may reduce cancer has not been fully explained.
The objective of this research was to determine the ability and minimum concentration of phytic acid to inactivate the activation of pro-MMP1 in an effort to delay the onset and progression of basement degradation and the progression of angiogenesis.
The inhibition of pro-MMP-1 activation by phytic acid was investigated using biotinylated gelatin, gelatin zymography, electrophoresis with silver staining, and fluorescence quenched substrate hydrolysis. Phytic acid at concentration of 40 nM completely inhibited trypsin activation of pro-MMP-1. Quantitation of gelatinolytic activity of phytic acid -treated trypsin-activated pro- MMP-1 demonstrated the absence of gelatin degradation. Silver staining showed the pattern of BBI inactivation of pro-MMP-1 activation with increased concentration of phytic. Lower rate of substrate hydrolysis following quenched fluorescence substrate hydrolysis was inversely proportional to the concentration of phytic acid present in the reaction medium.
Phytic acid, a naturally occurring compound present in food, is an anti-angiogenic compound because it inhibits the activation of pro- MMP-1 and the activity of MMP-1.
Session 6, Biotechnology 8:30 AM - 12:00 PM, 2002-06-18 -------------------------------------------------------
There was a question as to whether topically applied lecithin would be efficacious ..
The article shows it .. is ..
This article ALSO shows it / oil crosses the skin / epidermis.
http://www.indianpediatrics.net/oct2005/oct-998-1005.htm
Indian Pediatrics 2005; 42:998-1005
Transcutaneous Absorption of Topically Massaged Oil in Neonates
Kirti Solanki, Manoj Matnani, +Mrudula Kale, +Kalpana Joshi, Ashish Bavdekar, Sheila Bhave and Anand Pandit
>From the *Department of Pediatrics, KEM Hospital, Pune 411 011, India and +School of Health Sciences, University of Pune, Pune 411 007, India.
Address for Correspondence : Dr. Sheila Bhave, Department of Pediatrics, KEM Hospital, Pune 411 011, India. E-mail: kem...@vsnl.com
Abstract
Objective: To study the transcutaneous absorption of traditionally massaged oil in newborns and to specifically compare the effects of (i) essential fatty acid (EFA) rich - safflower oil and (ii) saturated fat rich coconut oil, on fatty acid profiles of massaged babies. Design: A short term randomised controlled study. Setting: Tertiary care NICU of a large teaching hospital and a research laboratory of a University complex. Methods: 120 study babies were randomly assigned to three oil groups (i) safflower oil (n = 40) (ii) coconut oil (n = 40) and (iii) no oil controls (n = 40). In each group, babies were selected in three subsets as per their gestational ages viz., (a) <34weeks, (b) 34-37 weeks, (c) > 37 weeks. 5 mL of the designated oil was massaged four times a day (6hrly) for five days under controlled conditions of temperature and feeding. Pre and post oil massage samples of blood were analysed for triglycerides and fatty acid profiles using gas chromatography. Results: Post oil triglyceride values were significantly raised in both the oil groups and also in controls. However, the quantum of rise was significantly higher in oil groups as compared to controls (p <0.05). Fatty acid profiles (gas chromatography) showed significant rise in EFAs (linolenic acid and arachidonic acid) in safflower oil group and saturated fats in coconut oil group (p <0.05). Changes were more evident in term babies. There were no side effects associated with the massage. Conclusion: This study shows that topically applied oil can be absorbed in neonates and is probably available for nutritional purposes. The fatty acid constituents of the oil can influence the changes in the fatty acid profiles of the massaged babies.
Key words: Fatty acid profile, Topical absorption, Traditional oil .
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Flec T - 08 Jul 2007 05:37 GMT Simon Scott - 10 Jul 2007 11:52 GMT > Topically applied lecithin .. ? God I hate it when I reinstall and forget to backup my killfile.
Flec T - 11 Jul 2007 04:38 GMT >> Topically applied lecithin .. ? > > God I hate it when I reinstall and forget to backup my killfile. I also forgot to backup my killfile :)
Nel - 02 Sep 2007 03:35 GMT Hi, I don't understand what you are telling us...I have an Autoimmune disease, but they don't know which one yet..I'm on prednisone and MTX...Trying to get of the prednisone but takes a long time..I'm on 9mgs now. My problem is my legs are weak, can't walk to far at one time, can't climbs stairs and hear to get up after I've sat down. I've always been so active it's driving me crazy... If you know what you think it can be let me know? Thanks so much......Nel Do you have one of the diseases..
> Topically applied lecithin .. ? > [quoted text clipped - 178 lines] > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Joan Carter - 02 Sep 2007 03:54 GMT Nel, Tommy aka ironjustice, cannot help you. He cuts and pastes things from the web that are related to iron. He is not a professional. Ignore him and talk with your physicians.
> I don't understand what you are telling us...I have an Autoimmune disease, >but they don't know which one yet..I'm on prednisone and MTX...Trying to get [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Thanks so much......Nel > Do you have one of the diseases.. california_chief - 02 Sep 2007 06:27 GMT > Hi, > I don't understand what you are telling us... Neither does he. NUMBNUTZ tommy, aka rustbucket, aka ironjustice, only cuts and pastes whatever he can find on the internet that appeals to him.
I certainly hope that the doctor(s) - rheumatologist(s) - can give a better diagnosis very, very soon.
There are more than 100 types/forms of arthritis/autoimmune diseases, and the sooner everyone - including yourself - know exactly what you have the sooner the proper treatment can begin.
... Epitaph: F. LEE BAILEY-- Case Closed
Harvey R. Stone - 02 Sep 2007 07:35 GMT > Hi, > I don't understand what you are telling us...I have an Autoimmune disease, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If you know what you think it can be let me know? > Thanks so much......Nel Hi Nel,,,, Methx is taken once a week or sometimes twice in the same day but once a week. A person has to take enough on that day to slow your immune system down. There are two ways two take Methx shots and pills and the pills are 2.5 mg. I took 17.5 mg once a week for lots of years and the shots of Methx for only a year. The thing is,,,, I had to get up to 15 mg before it even started to help me with my RA. Having said all that it leads up to asking,,,,, how much Methx do you take a week??? Have you been taking a blood test once a month to see how your liver is reacting to the medicine? Do you take folic acid? Harv
Nel - 02 Sep 2007 23:23 GMT Thank you so much for all your answers everyone..
I've had a ct scan, 2 pet scans, mri, emg, nerve conduction test, lung ex-ray and everything was OK. I even had a bone density test, and that was fine, good bones..My Rheumy has them draw a barrel of blood every four weeks. I guess the only thing that's left is a muscle biopsy, but it could be a false negative if I"m on prednisone, so I just have to wait..Can't believe I would ever get anything like this, I have my treadmill, stationary bike, danced 2 times a week, weights, and yoga. Never hear of this before..Now there's a group for all the Myositis people. (autoimmune) Harvey, I take my MTX once a week. I'm up to 8 on Weds. now. I didn't know how it worked, thanks. I also take folic acid everyday except the day I take the mtx. I see him Tues. and he will maybe take me down one mg on the prednisone(I hope, has to be slow) and add one to the mtx..The pred. is awful. My hair is thinning, my face is fat(getting a bit better)and I'm so bruised up, my hands and lower legs. I'm also getting a stomach..UGH!!!
Anything else you can tell me is very helpful. I"I'm getting worried, as one of the girls in the group that had PM, and DM died last week..I think it must had got her in the lungs too. That seems to happen to lots of the people in the group. Can you tell me what your DX was, and symptoms? Thanks to everyone... I'll ignore that guy next time.;=)...Nel "
> Hi, > I don't understand what you are telling us...I have an Autoimmune disease, [quoted text clipped - 188 lines] >> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING >> http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Harvey R. Stone - 03 Sep 2007 00:09 GMT > Thank you so much for all your answers everyone.. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Harvey, I take my MTX once a week. I'm up to 8 on Weds. now. I didn't > know how it worked, thanks. That would be 20mg a week and that is enough to have an effect on your immune system. Your RD may add another pill or add another DMARD like Arava if the doc still sees on going damage.
I also take folic acid everyday except the day I take the mtx. I see him
> Tues. and he will maybe take me down one mg on the prednisone(I hope, has > to be slow) and add one to the mtx..The pred. is awful. My hair is > thinning, That is the methx and you might add grapeseed extract or more folic to stop the hair loss.
my
> face is fat(getting a bit better)and I'm so bruised up, my hands and lower > legs. I'm also getting a stomach..UGH!!! That is the prednisone and you may get fat cheeks on your face from it too. Prednisone keeps you hungry and a person really has to control what and how much a person eats. It is something we all have to do. The prednisone also makes my skin thin and it tears easily.
> Anything else you can tell me is very helpful. I"I'm getting worried, as > one of the girls in the group that had PM, and DM died last week..I think > it must had got her in the lungs too. That seems to happen to lots of the > people in the group. > Can you tell me what your DX was, and symptoms? > Thanks to everyone... Please keep in mind that everything we take for what we have,,,, has side effects and that you can put them all together and they are not as bad as uncontrolled RA lets say. Eyes, ears, voice box, and the most important our veins and arteries are under attack and that is what we die of early. If a person has Lupus it is their organs that come under attack early. If your RD can find a balance of medicine to control what you have,,,, you can do quite well. I use myself as an example but I have been taking DMARDs for almost 30 years and can do most things and can go and do as I please as long as I take my medicine with me. I do not want my words to make you down hearted but I say them in hopes you will accept what you have and learn to make the best of it and the best of it can be a good life.
Harv
ironjustice - 06 Sep 2007 01:40 GMT Hi, I don't understand what you are telling us...I have an Autoimmune disease, but they don't know which one yet.. If you know what you think it can be let me know? <<
The iron from the meat you eat accumulates / builds higher and higher in the body and overwhelms the bodies ability to keep it from causing your disease BY iron **poisoning**.
"Plant irons are most beneficial to the body because their absorption remains safely regulated, whereas iron from animal sources tends to accumulate to levels which increase free radical activity contributing to heart disease, cancer, and the aging process. --Presented at the National Meeting of the American Chemical Society by Tung-Ching Lee, a food scientist at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, N.J., April 2000. reprinted from Good Medicine, PCRM, August 2000 " ------------------------------------------ The links below give a rundown of the problems of excess iron. ------------------------------------------ "This excess Iron is the root cause of Inflammatory and Autoimmune disorders. This excess Iron gets deposited in brain and other organs such as liver, kidneys etc. causing variety of diseases ranging from recurring infections to cancer "
http://tinyurl.com/2cefle
Authored By: Dr Rev LD Wedewer, PhD
Research Additions: Kathy Blanco
11/29/2002
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"I believe that Autistic individuals have an inborn error in Iron metabolism. Human body does not have any mechanism to excrete Iron. Iron is lost mostly through growth of hair, skin, sweat and bleeding. "
http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/Prenatal%20Vitamins.htm ------------------------------------------
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> Thanks so much......Nel > [quoted text clipped - 182 lines] > > - Show quoted text -
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