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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / July 2007photos at doctors office
Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is working for me. But after checking into the waiting room, the receptionist asked for my insurance card and copay. No problem. Then she held a little webcam up to my face - well, not IN my face, about a foot away and told me to smile. I'm one of those people who don't like having my picture taken, so I refused to smile. She took a picture of me anyway - probably scowling. While she processed my copay, I asked her what the deal with the picture was. (I was polite, though.) She said it was just for my record so that the doctor can see who this patient was - putting the face to the name/info. I kind of understand that, but I still don't like having my picture taken. She said it was not an insurance requirement. They used to use the driver's license photo, but recently switched to this method. All this time, I thought taking a copy of my license was an insurance requirement. Go figure. What do you guys think of that? Would you mind being photographed for computerized records? To my thinking, there are so many computer records being stolen and lost these days that it's a real security/privacy concern. Call me paranoid if you want, but if a thief got the doctor's computer records, he would have access to name, address, phone number, social security, and now a photograph!  Signature- Sharon "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!" > Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went > for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is > working for me. But after checking into the waiting room, the > receptionist asked for my insurance card and copay. No problem. > Then she held a little webcam up to my face - well, not IN my face, > about a foot away and told me to smile. > I'm one of those people who don't like having my picture taken, > so I refused to smile. She took a picture of me anyway - probably [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > All this time, I thought taking a copy of my license was an insurance > requirement. Go figure. > What do you guys think of that? That it makes a lot of sense for the doctor to be able to check the photo when they get a request for a script repeat over the phone etc to jog their memory and be sure that they are dealing with the individual they think they are dealing with etc. > Would you mind being photographed for computerized records? Nope, and that happened with me close to half a century ago now in university, for the same reason, so the staff could put a face to the name when marking etc. > To my thinking, there are so many computer records being stolen > and lost these days that it's a real security/privacy concern. Why does it matter if they get your picture ? > Call me paranoid if you want, Hi paranoid, > but if a thief got the doctor's computer records, he would have access to > name, address, phone number, social security, and now a photograph! Cant see the photo makes any difference. >> Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went >> for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >Cant see the photo makes any difference. I only mind them taking the picture before without asking and telling me what it's for. Thumper >> I'm one of those people who don't like having my picture taken, >> so I refused to smile. She took a picture of me anyway - probably [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > phone etc to jog their memory and be sure that they are > dealing with the individual they think they are dealing with etc. True, I understand that. Except that this doctor instituted a olicy last year that she will NOT refill rx's over the phone. Either from the patient or from a pharmacy. The only way to get an RX or a refill of one is with an office visit. Aside from that, I'm sure there are other reasons for the doc to want to see who this patient is, sure. >> To my thinking, there are so many computer records being stolen >> and lost these days that it's a real security/privacy concern. > > Why does it matter if they get your picture ? Hmm, I guess it doesn't matter. Other than I think it's rude to take someone's picture when they don't want you to. - Sharon "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!" > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> I'm one of those people who don't like having my picture taken, >>> so I refused to smile. She took a picture of me anyway - probably [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> All this time, I thought taking a copy of my license was an >>> insurance requirement. Go figure. >> That it makes a lot of sense for the doctor to be able to check >> the photo when they get a request for a script repeat over the >> phone etc to jog their memory and be sure that they are >> dealing with the individual they think they are dealing with etc. > True, I understand that. Except that this doctor instituted > a policy last year that she will NOT refill rx's over the phone. > Either from the patient or from a pharmacy. The only way > to get an RX or a refill of one is with an office visit. Thats just one use of a photo. > Aside from that, I'm sure there are other reasons > for the doc to want to see who this patient is, sure. Even just being able to see the photo when reviewing the notes, when say the pharmacy rings and asks if there has been a mistake with a prescription which results in a questionable combination of drugs etc. >>> To my thinking, there are so many computer records being stolen >>> and lost these days that it's a real security/privacy concern. >> Why does it matter if they get your picture ? > Hmm, I guess it doesn't matter. Yeah, I cant see it matters at all once they have stolen the other stuff. > Other than I think it's rude to take someone's > picture when they don't want you to. Sure, it can certainly be done more diplomatically, like explaining better why its desirable etc. >> Other than I think it's rude to take someone's >> picture when they don't want you to. > > Sure, it can certainly be done more diplomatically, like explaining better > why its desirable etc. Yeah. I'm also a bit miffed by people who insist that you smile for a picture you don't want to take. Me: just take the damned thing, it's not like this is going on the cover of Vogue or anything. But actually that probably belongs more on alt.peeves. - Sharon "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!" >>> I'm one of those people who don't like having my picture taken, >>> so I refused to smile. She took a picture of me anyway - probably [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > - Sharon > "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!" I'm more suspicious of a doctor who has an RX policy like that. It makes no sense at all. Unless billing out a lot of useless office visits is a priority. I'd rather have a doctor who can vaguely remember my face and read his/her own notes. So far every one of my doctors seems quite able to remember who I am, including the specialists I see infrequently. So does most of their long term office staff. That is very little to expect any person in a personal service industry to manage in public relations. Jo >>>> I'm one of those people who don't like having my picture taken, >>>> so I refused to smile. She took a picture of me anyway - probably [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > long term office staff. That is very little to expect any person in > a personal service industry to manage in public relations. Makes a lot more sense to automate doing it properly than leaving something as important as that to chance. f.cked if I want to take the chance that they'll get it wrong instead. !" I'm more suspicious of a doctor who has an RX policy like that. It makes no sense at all. Unless billing out a lot of useless office visits is a priority. ***i suspect some useless office visits billing is a priority, income-wise. on the other hand, some of us take some pretty potent drugs. as no drug does just one thing (and every doctor knows that), it's probably a good idea for a doctor to "actually see" how the patient is doing on them. I'd rather have a doctor who can vaguely remember my face and read his/her own notes. *** here! here! and hear! hear! it drives me batty to have to repeat what i've told them before, because they can't read their notes. So far every one of my doctors seems quite able to remember who I am, including the specialists I see infrequently. So does most of their long term office staff. That is very little to expect any person in a personal service industry to manage in public relations. ***ahhhh, but that is because you truly are so memorable, my darling girlfriend.<smile> some of us are easily forgettable and fall through the cracks in many people's memories. that's why a lot of people don't get the quality of medical care they actually need, nor the attention in schools, nor the job upon application/interview, nor the good service in any venue. why? i suppose that can be for a lot of reasons--the forgettable person perhaps has lack of confidence, lack of assertiveness, something about their physical stature or quality of voice, was having an off day, etc., etc. and on the other side of the equation, perhaps because the person who doesn't remember may have had distractions to contend with, wasn't paying attention/wasn't present in the moment, had a poor memory for faces or names etc.. kate Jo Sharon, the first time I had the experience of being told to pose for a camera to "identify me as being me" was at the sleep disorder clinic where I spent the night. So far, my Rheumy and other doctor don't do that - and I hope it never happens. Nanny > Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went > for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is working [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > a > photograph! The first time I took my dog to the vet I now use, he took a picture of Abbie to keep in her records. Guess for the same reason, to put a face with the name. Gwen > Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went > for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is working [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > a > photograph! > But after checking into the waiting room, the receptionist asked for my > insurance card and copay. No problem. Then she held a little webcam up [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > computerized records? To my thinking, there are so many computer records > being stolen and lost these days that it's a real security/privacy concern. There have been more and more reports of uninsured scumbags using other folk's names plus SS/insurance/Medicare numbers to obtain medical treatment. Then the innocent party receives a statement or bill for co-pays and goes, "Whoa, wait a minute. I never went to that doctor (or ER)." Now, with a photo (including old-time patients/clients for fairness), if there is ever an argument about who saw what doctor, they have a photo of the person who presented themself for treatment to compare with the person stating they never had that treatment and protesting the co-pay. In other words, it protects you and all other law abidding, honest patients. ... Do you, PC ADDICT, take this computer to be your wedded spouse? > Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went > for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is working [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > What do you guys think of that? Would you mind being photographed for > computerized records? Not a problem for me. End of story. I'd say it makes a whole lot of sense. Most doctors have tons of patients. If they're asked to fill out a form or refill a script or whatever, it makes a whole lot of sense to make sure they're thinking of the right patient when they do. I'd have no problem with having my picture taken for that. DeeTee > Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went > for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is working [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > a > photograph! > To my thinking, there are so many computer records being > stolen and lost these days that it's a real security/privacy concern. Call me > paranoid if you want, but if a thief got the doctor's computer records, he > would have access to name, address, phone number, social security, and now a > photograph! If I had your address, I could easily get a photograph of you, and probably much better quality than the doc's webcam. It's a non-issue. > Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went > for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is working [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > a > photograph! one of the fastest growing thefts is theft of medical insurance. many hospitals are starting to require picture for their data base so that when the card is presented, they can tell right away if you're the right face to go with it. >> Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went >> for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is working [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >presented, >they can tell right away if you're the right face to go with it. Something else is going on here. Are you sure your doc isn't getting Alzheimer's? Thumper > AllEmailDeletedImmediately <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote >>> Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went >>> for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> card is presented, >> they can tell right away if you're the right face to go with it. > Something else is going on here. Nope. > Are you sure your doc isn't getting Alzheimer's? Much more likely to be protecting against medical insurance fraud etc. >>> Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went >>> for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Something else is going on here. Are you sure your doc isn't getting > Alzheimer's? I'd say we have a winner with the multi-user insurance cards. A second likely reason is so the doc has a face in the folder in front of him, as he spends his 10 minutes per cubicle treating patients, to make sure it is the right folder in the pocket on the door. aem sends... >>>> Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went >>>> for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >aem sends... My doctors know me. Thumper I'm gonna be the Devil's Advocate and say first.. I don't think I would like to be under treatment by a physician that needs my photo to remember or recognize me, and second.. if no perscriptions or even refills are refused without an office visit then I would certainly be looking for another doctor. This individual sounds like a self-important and maybe money-dominated individual ... IMHO. Bud > I'm gonna be the Devil's Advocate and say first.. I don't think I would like to be under treatment > by a physician that needs my photo to remember or recognize me, More fool you, not everyone can readily put a face to a name etc. I'd rather have one that takes some precautions to ensure that they have got the correct individual when someone like a pharmacy rings up about a prescription, or who takes some precautions about medical insurance fraud etc. > and second.. if no perscriptions or even refills are refused without an office visit then I would > certainly be looking for another doctor. More fool you again. They may have seen a lot of druggys abusing that system. > This individual sounds like a self-important and maybe money-dominated individual ... And you have one hell of a capacity to jump to unwarranted conclusions. > IMHO. Why should anyone care about your horrible opinion in the circumstances ? R > And you have one hell of a capacity to jump to unwarranted conclusions. > >> IMHO. > > Why should anyone care about your horrible opinion in the circumstances ? I guess my 40+ years as a physician just clouded my mind, Ron. And what got your undies in a bind? Too much Speed? LOL! Bud > Rod Speed wrote >>> I'm gonna be the Devil's Advocate and say first.. I don't think I would like to be under >>> treatment by a physician that needs my photo to remember or recognize me, >> More fool you, not everyone can readily put a face to a name etc. >> I'd rather have one that takes some precautions to ensure >> that they have got the correct individual when someone >> like a pharmacy rings up about a prescription, or who takes >> some precautions about medical insurance fraud etc. >>> and second.. if no perscriptions or even refills are refused without an office visit then I >>> would certainly be looking for another doctor. >> More fool you again. They may have seen a lot of druggys abusing that system. >>> This individual sounds like a self-important and maybe money-dominated individual ... >> And you have one hell of a capacity to jump to unwarranted conclusions. >>> IMHO. >> Why should anyone care about your horrible opinion in the circumstances ? > I guess my 40+ years as a physician just clouded my mind, Ron. Or you never had a viable mind. And those claimed 40+ years are completely irrelevant to your silly sh.t above. <reams of your puerile sh.t flushed where it belongs> > <reams of your puerile sh.t flushed where it belongs> LOL! Another internet warrior/troll with sh.t for brains and not enough intelligence to do anything else. PLONK a.shole! ROTFL! Bud You too, Bud. Plese clean it up. Gwen >> <reams of your puerile sh.t flushed where it belongs> > > LOL! Another internet warrior/troll with sh.t for brains and not enough > intelligence to do anything else. PLONK a.shole! ROTFL! > > Bud > You too, Bud. Plese clean it up. > Gwen Hokay, Gwen, I stand rebuked and apologize to the gentler crowd for my unwarranted expletives. :,( Bud >> <reams of your puerile sh.t flushed where it belongs> > >LOL! Another internet warrior/troll with sh.t for brains and not enough >intelligence to do anything else. PLONK a.shole! ROTFL! > >Bud Forget him Bud. Most of us realize that doctors are busy and they need a few minutes to read your chart to refresh your mind when they see you. Needing a photo? If my doctors needed a photo I would go elsewhere. Thumper <reams of your puerile sh.t flushed where it belongs> Whoops, nothing left, child. Rod, can you use clean language when you post, please. Gwen >> Rod Speed wrote > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > <reams of your puerile sh.t flushed where it belongs> May I humbly suggest that since this subject has devolved from any useful point, we all at least cease and desist from cross posting our replies to groups we do not normally frequent. > Rod, can you use clean language when you post, please. > Gwen [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> >> <reams of your puerile sh.t flushed where it belongs> > May I humbly suggest that since this subject has devolved from any useful > point, we all at least cease and desist from cross posting our replies to > groups we do not normally frequent. The original message was posted in two groups, and has remained in those two. ... Hex dump -- where witches put used curses. > Rod, can you use clean language when you post, please. Yes I can. But I choose not to. I call a spade a spade and puerile sh.t, puerile sh.t. >>> Rod Speed wrote >> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >> <reams of your puerile sh.t flushed where it belongs> Don't feed the troll -- just ignore him! <sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net> wrote... > Rod, can you use clean language when you post, please. > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote... >> <reams of your puerile sh.t flushed where it belongs> Ignore fools that wouldnt know what a troll was if on bit them on their lard arse!!! > Don't feed the troll -- just ignore him! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote... >>> <reams of your puerile sh.t flushed where it belongs> > Had an unusual experience at my reumatologist yesterday. Just went > for a checkup and to tell her how wonderfully the my medication is working for [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > - Sharon > "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!" Well the NHS in the UK hasn,t got around to taking our photos yet, but no doubt some irk somewhere will think of it. What I can tell you is that you don't get into the US these days without having your photo taken at immigration - like it or not. Peter |
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