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Jim Scott - 15 Jun 2007 14:27 GMT
My wife may be in the early stages of arthritis in the hip.
Do the over the counter treatments of CLO, Fish Oil or Glycosamine Sulphate
make a significant difference or are they 'snake oil'?

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Kelly - 15 Jun 2007 15:40 GMT
Hi Jim,
It helps first to know what kind of arthritis she has.  If it is
inflammatory arthritis she needs to be in the care of a rheumatologist and
will most likely need a special type of med that will stop the inflammatory
process - this is called a dmard.  Examples of inflammatory arthritis are
psoriatic, rheumatoid, and in some cases osteoarthritis as well as many
others.  If she has osteoarthritis and the damage is age or injury related
then anti-inflammatories sometimes help but studies have shown that
glucosomine or glucosomine/chondroitin combinations can make the difference.
The fish oil is not a bad thing to add to diet - it does seem to make a
difference to a lot of people but may not reverse any damage.  Exercise,
weight loss if she needs to and checking out any physiological needs such as
gait, leg length etc can help immensely too.  Exercise should be tailored to
her - ie: swimming if weight bearing is a problem, walking is good in most
cases but watch for good shoes changed regularly, and if needed use a cane
or walking stick or even a walker.  The idea is to build up the upper
muscles that support the hips and knees.  The weight loss will make an
incredible difference on the hips if this is a problem for her.  Even 5 - 10
lbs can decrease the pain.

The above are suggestions aimed at everyone but her diagnosis from a doctor
will help decide the treatment. This is important and she should ideally see
a rheumatologist if she hasn't already.   Don't dismiss a good occupational
therapist and physio therapist when you have that diagnosis.  They can help
with ongoing ideas to make the pain less and help reduce any further damage.

Kelly
> My wife may be in the early stages of arthritis in the hip.
> Do the over the counter treatments of CLO, Fish Oil or Glycosamine
> Sulphate
> make a significant difference or are they 'snake oil'?
Trimble Bracegirdle - 17 Jun 2007 22:43 GMT
Kelly has given more clear information in his post here than a number of
visits to my GP
& one  wait-4 months- visit with local Hospital specialist .
They really seem to resent telling people any details  about the condition
or the
effects of any medication. I think its because my osteoarthritis in hips is
just
to routine & uninteresting.
Thanks Kelly.
Mouse
@@@
Kelly - 18 Jun 2007 04:50 GMT
Glad this has been  of help.  (actually I am a woman - name goes both ways
and on the internet it is always hard to tell bg)  Part of the problem with
osteo is the medication is sort of a trial and error with medication.  You
are testing NSAID (non steroid anti inflammatory drugs) and each one works
differently on each person.  In Canada they start with naproxen because it
is covered under our formulary and is inexpensive - unless they start you
first on an over the counter med such as ibrofofen or aspirin.  They can
cause stomach problems so do watch for upset and black stool (which means
hussle your butt to the doctor).  For some people these meds work fine.  For
others they don't.  Each NSAID works differently for each person.  Celebrex,
vioxx worked wonders for some people and protected their stomachs at the
same time but problems occured and the doctors have cut back on the celebrex
and vioxx is off the market.  Wouldn't surprise me to see it go back on
eventually.

If your osteo is mild and not bone on bone the doctor probably can't offer
you anything exciting - however if it isn't bone on bone and is still bad in
the knees they will sometimes do injections of steroids or sometimes a
synthetic med the name of which my brain can't bring forward right now.
Unfortunately for the hips the steroid injection is the only injection that
sometimes brings a bit of relief.

The best thing though is to keep the weight off, use good management such as
reachers if necessary, raised toilet seat (the best thing in my opinion ever
invented for hip pain), grab rails, higher chairs or cushioned chairs,
maintain strength in your upper large muscle groups (such as quads, arm
strength which helps to levered you up.

Another good site with occupational ideas for hips and knees is the Canadian
Arthritis Society and I am including the link for ideas (check out some of
the other ideas on fatique and fighting pain.)
http://www.arthritis.ca/tips%20for%20living/daily%20activities/protecting%20your
%20joints/default.asp?s=1

An occupational therapist was also the best absolute best for giving me
ideas on gardening with arthritis, how to travel with arthritis, proper
mechanics on lifting and protecting hips and knees etc.  We have a group
here that regularly does seminars free on these topics.  Couldn't do without
those seminars.  Also check out the best book that again I couldn't do
without called the "Arthritis Helpbook".

hopefully some more of these ideas help.  Unfortunately the doctors don't
always give out the information on osteo that we would like.  Even on RA I
had to go to the Arthritis Society for a great deal of my help.  The doctors
though have been a godsend working on my med situation and monitoring for
side effects etc. on my condition (difficult to treat RA).

hang around and welcome - lots of ideas around here.  Many have had hip
problems and haven't needed replacements.  Many have had hip replacements
eventually and have had great relief.  If there is a particular thing that
you have trouble doing ask - I can probably find a tool, gadget, or a
different way of doing things and if I can't someone else has the answer.

Welcome,
Kelly
> Kelly has given more clear information in his post here than a number of
> visits to my GP
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Mouse
> @@@
Trimble Bracegirdle - 18 Jun 2007 13:15 GMT
Thanks again Kelly.
I'm am in the UK ...England ..receiving HNS care..The Central Government is
obsessed with setting & meeting 'Targets'  as the main aim in health care.
So I was assessed as being suitable for Hip replacement ..informed I could
have if I wanted it
some time soon ...& forgotten about..no information on the condition or what
is involved in replacement.
. Its faster that way & meets simplistic targets .
I have attempted to ask questions for the sort of information you have given
& the Specialist
& GP seem really resentful at the time doing that would take..giving
information isn't a Government 'Target'.
They seem to have a real terror of giving anything resembling an
opinion...have got to work it out
for myself .
Thanks
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")  mouse
california_chief - 15 Jun 2007 19:07 GMT
> My wife may be in the early stages of arthritis in the hip.

What kind of arthritis, of the more than 100 forms?

Did a doctor diagnose this?

> Do the over the counter treatments of CLO, Fish Oil
> or Glycosamine Sulphate make a significant difference
> or are they 'snake oil'?

Many OTC drugs are "snake oil" and do not contain the total amount (if any
at all) of the listed ingredient(s).
You have to be very, very careful selecting a brand name and type of OTC
drug.

Have you located a web site for an arthritis society in your country?

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