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Diane - 03 Jun 2007 19:35 GMT
Well, it's that time again when I start needing lots of weird little
details for my work-in-progress. You guys always come through for me!
Here's my current question for those of you familiar with boys around
fifteen years of age. This particular boy is a bit on the slow-to-
develop-socially side. I need to know what his mother would find if
she opened one of his dresser drawers, the drawer she allows him to
keep messy and throw anything into. The year is current day--2007
(actually, it's 2006 in the book). So what might a 15 year old boy
have in his messy dresser drawer?

thanks!

diane

www.dianechamberlain.com
Kelly - 03 Jun 2007 20:22 GMT
Only one drawer Diane - not a whole bedroom.  That is hard.

Well here it goes.  Definitely a condom (it is a image thing not ever to be
used.  As a matter of fact he probably got it in his stocking with a note
saying not to be used until he is 21 unless needed).  Odd socks - that goes
without saying - all with holes but you never know.  A birthday card from
his grandmother or maybe a postcard from where she was visiting.  Notes from
school - the kind you get from a "girl" not the notes on classroom lessons.
Maybe a paystub (that is in Marc's drawer from when he was 15.  In Marc's
case always a book - maze book, music book, sci fi book.  Magic cards (or
the new equivalent) - these were used by the develop socially side of both
my kids and their friends.  acne cream and a chocolate bar wrapper (in
Marc's case a bag of werthers given to him by his grandma again).  Old music
reeds - why would anyone save these and not put them in the garbage with the
socks.  More books in the case of both boys.

Hope this is of some help.  Oh and some homework that was never turned in
(and in some cases never quite finished) but was lost and had to be started
again and finished.

Kelly in BC mother of 2 boys who have sort of grown up (23 and 24) but still
have the stuff in their drawers - how do I know - well I am cleaning out the
stuff they left behind!!

> Well, it's that time again when I start needing lots of weird little
> details for my work-in-progress. You guys always come through for me!
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>
> www.dianechamberlain.com
Tin Lizzie - 03 Jun 2007 20:27 GMT
With my son when he was that age it was girlie magazines.  He was stunned
when I simply told him that I trashed them.  He said "am I going to get
scolded" and I simply replied"all boys do that".
Sincerely
Lorrie F
> Well, it's that time again when I start needing lots of weird little
> details for my work-in-progress. You guys always come through for me!
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>
> www.dianechamberlain.com
spodosaurus - 03 Jun 2007 20:31 GMT
> Well, it's that time again when I start needing lots of weird little
> details for my work-in-progress. You guys always come through for me!
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>
> www.dianechamberlain.com

A usb flash drive with downloaded 'adult' material.

:)

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Donna G. - 03 Jun 2007 20:44 GMT
In my nephews case, you would find, various CD's, portable CD player, an
assortment of DVD's, various hand held electronic games, gum and candy
and wrappers, notes from friends/kids from school, flashlight, an
assortment of batteries, sports pictures and/or articles, sports
magazines, computer magazines, various acne creams and pads, as well as
some aftershave, dental floss, and other types of personal hygeine
"stuff", his retainer in its plastic carrying case, a comb or two, misc
rubberbands, ink pens, 3x5 index cards, etc.

ooooooh, can't wait for that next book to hit the market!!!
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Donna
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Adelle - 04 Jun 2007 15:29 GMT
> In my nephews case, you would find, various CD's, portable CD player, an
> assortment of DVD's, various hand held electronic games, gum and candy
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> ooooooh, can't wait for that next book to hit the market!!!

I've only got the 15 yr old girl. But personal electronic stuff and old
batteries (spent from these devices, switched out, but never thrown away)
are a definite for all teens - ear buds, MP3 player (or ipod if they are
more affluent), cds, dvds, USB drive, Cell phone recharger (manuals from any
of these devices), candy and empty wrappers,

caps from soda bottles with the codes for contests, and also the little blue
plastic insert of those caps, but with a hole placed in the middle and then
stretched into a bracelet. If you can't tell what I mean, take the blue disc
out of a soda cap, puncture a hole in it, then slowly stretch it. It thins
out and you can wear it.

Maybe old braided friendship bracelets given to him, or lanyard stuff.

Highlighting markers for school.

Playboy magazines and paraphernalia (keychain, shot glass, even a condom
with the playboy bunny logo - often given from a girl who is interested in
him. He may be slow to develop, but the girls around him aren't. And unless
he is an uber nerd, some girl, maybe one just as nerdy, is going to try to
let him know she likes him in ways society tells *her* are sexy and
appealing),

tokens from an arcade, or slips of paper with the place's name and the
number of winning tickets he redeemed (places around here let you hold onto
these so you can save your points to redeem for one of the bigger prizes)

computer and gaming magazines (perhaps Scryb if he does play "Magic, the
Gathering' - is it still being published?),

dice (not just 6 sided, but all the odd sizes they use for role playing
games) and maybe the metal figurines sometimes used for these games, some
half painted - if he is into that.

Notes with 'cheats' for various computer and handheld games.

Cartridges for the games (go to a store like Game Stop where they sell new
and used equipment so you have physical descriptions www.gamestop.com/ for
store locator).

If my 9 yr old is any hint - rocks and other oddities found while walking.

Movie ticket and concert stubs.

scraps of paper with URL's or phone numbers,

school pictures from friends and girls interested in him,

pieces of schoolwork and art projects from school (hunks of painted clay,
pencil drawing...).

solo keys, the purpose for which no one remembers.

Driver's ed manual.

Something related to any hobbies (patches, flyers for event, guitar picks,
drum key - used for tightening the heads of drums, reeds, pictures,
articles, fishing lures, weights, bent hook, ball bearings from
skateboard...).

Used tissues.

Odd Pieces and cards from board games, like Risk (maybe the Lord of the
Rings version?).

If he is an overachiever - maybe some Addarall (spelling?) an ADD drug
popular with the smart over committed crowd. It's a stimulant. They use it
for studying and writing papers, etc.

Smoking stuff - cigarettes & lighter

Even the smart overcommitted crowd does pot, or at least buys paraphernalia
(like a pipe or papers) so they will have it if they ever get up the nerve.

Wishing you luck!  - Adelle
Joan Carter - 04 Jun 2007 15:45 GMT
>Playboy magazines and paraphernalia (keychain, shot glass, even a condom
>with the playboy bunny logo - often given from a girl who is interested in
>him. He may be slow to develop, but the girls around him aren't. And unless
>he is an uber nerd, some girl, maybe one just as nerdy, is going to try to
>let him know she likes him in ways society tells *her* are sexy and
>appealing),

As an innocent (no kids) I have to ask, do any of these kids keep
clothes in these drawers??????????????

Joan
Kelly - 04 Jun 2007 16:17 GMT
Nope - unless they are outgrown, have many many holes or so bad they would
never wear them (read parents bought them against their will - silly
parents).  The floor, foot of the bed, laundry basket, closet are for
clothes.

Oh and not necessarily hung in a closet unless the said "parent" did it.

Kelly

>>Playboy magazines and paraphernalia (keychain, shot glass, even a condom
>>with the playboy bunny logo - often given from a girl who is interested in
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>
> Joan
jofirey - 04 Jun 2007 21:06 GMT
> Nope - unless they are outgrown, have many many holes or so bad they would
> never wear them (read parents bought them against their will - silly
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>
> Kelly

A standard line around here.  "I can't find..."  "Did you look in your
closet?"
Carole - 04 Jun 2007 21:32 GMT
> A standard line around here.  "I can't find..."  "Did you look in your
> closet?"

When I was a teacher, kids would come into class saying that they lost
their textbook. I always said "Go home and clean your room. If you don't
find it, bring in $25 to get a replacement." Once their parents heard
that they had to pay for a replacement, the book got found quite fast :)

Carole
Alix - 05 Jun 2007 00:13 GMT
"jofirey" <jofirey@hotmail.com> wrote in message >
> A standard line around here.  "I can't find..."  "Did you look in your
> closet?"

Mom--I can't fine my...... It isn't anywhere--said with much wailing and
gnashing of teeth--2 minutes in her room under the pile of dirty
clothes--there it is!!

Alix
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 04 Jun 2007 16:48 GMT
Why would they do that? That's what the floor of the closet is for.

DeeTee (laughing because her teenagers are grown and out on their own)

>>Playboy magazines and paraphernalia (keychain, shot glass, even a condom
>>with the playboy bunny logo - often given from a girl who is interested in
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>
> Joan
Donna G. - 04 Jun 2007 18:24 GMT
Joan,

Like the others said, that is what floors are for, including the floor
in the closet, the floor space under the bed, at the foot of the bed,
etc.  Also, the floor space downstairs of items that never even made it
upstairs and the floor space on the stairs themselves where things get
dropped as the are going up or down or put them at the foot of the stair
in hopes that someone else will carry the stuff up the stairs!  ROFL!!!

Donna
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1.   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......

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Joan Carter - 04 Jun 2007 21:49 GMT
>Joan,
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>dropped as the are going up or down or put them at the foot of the stair
>in hopes that someone else will carry the stuff up the stairs!  ROFL!!!

I am so naive. :-) And yet, I have been to homes where there are
kids, I just kind of thought perhaps SOME clothes might make it
to a drawer or closet.
Adelle - 04 Jun 2007 22:03 GMT
>>Joan,
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> kids, I just kind of thought perhaps SOME clothes might make it
> to a drawer or closet.

Oh, they do. With parental assistance - either thru nagging, parent actually
doing the work, or having a kid whose personality is such that they absorbed
the 'everything in its place' lessons.

I don't happen to have one of those. Sounds like many of us don't.

Adelle
Kelly - 04 Jun 2007 22:33 GMT
Of course some clothes make it to the drawer or closet Joan.  Our closets
and drawers in the boys bedrooms still had some clothes in until last week
when we cleaned them up for the move.  I personally put them there 8 years
ago when we moved in.  Of course they have grown 2 feet taller since then
and the clothes were never worn.  Oh and the rowing stuff from Junior
nationals is still in Marc's drawers.  He is not as buff as then and the
clothes were ones he traded from other countries so far too "good" to wear
anywhere but at another regatta -and of course he hasn't rowed competitively
since.  Oh and the socks with the holes - well they still in there.

And the pajamas - where did they come from because they haven't worn pj's
since they were what 9.  Go figure.

Yup some make it to a drawer or closet.  Those are the ones that moms put
away or are of no use to anyone.

But you got to love them!

Kelly

>>Joan,
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> kids, I just kind of thought perhaps SOME clothes might make it
> to a drawer or closet.
Joan Carter - 05 Jun 2007 00:29 GMT
>Of course some clothes make it to the drawer or closet Joan.  Our closets
>and drawers in the boys bedrooms still had some clothes in until last week
>when we cleaned them up for the move.  I personally put them there 8 years
>ago when we moved in.  

That cracked me up, Kelly, I just read your reply to one of Jim's
caregivers and she cracked up too. Said she wouldn't dare go
through some of her son's drawers. I can tell my life has been
very dull. :-)

Joan
jofirey - 05 Jun 2007 01:28 GMT
>>Of course some clothes make it to the drawer or closet Joan.  Our closets
>>and drawers in the boys bedrooms still had some clothes in until last week
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>
> Joan

We just got home from spending a great deal of money basically for a week of
dull.  (A cruise to Alaska)

I love these kids, but sometimes.

And these are grandkids.  17 year old grandsons current push.  He gathers up
his dirty clothes and sorts them and puts them out in the hall.  Once upon a
time his grandfather did his laundry at that point.  Now I just pitch them
back into his room once its clear he isn't starting to wash anything.

Jo
Adelle - 04 Jun 2007 18:11 GMT
>>Playboy magazines and paraphernalia (keychain, shot glass, even a condom
>>with the playboy bunny logo - often given from a girl who is interested in
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>
> Joan

clothes? - on the floor, bed, chairs, laundry baskets, top of dresser,
desk.......

At least with a boy you usually don't have all the nail polish
paraphernalia, makeup, lotions, and stuff scattered about. But then again,
with some you have all the sports paraphernalia.

My friend with twin boys Becca's age says one thing she is always fighting
is the BO smell from their rooms. They are still in that stage where the
hormones are really variable, and they can start that 'insta-stink' thing
within an hour of showering - even after using deodorant.

Oh!!! forgot the biggie in our house - empty Gatorade and soft drink
bottles!!!!!! (Laughing hysterically). Can't stand it - drives me thoroughly
nuts!!!! It's her space - I just close the door; has to be her issue right
now, not mine. I draw the line at anything that will draw insects (the
bottles are all capped), and have the dog nosing around.

Adelle
Alix - 05 Jun 2007 00:11 GMT
I just insist that it doesn't spread into the common areas of the house and
that she has a semi clear bit of floor so she can get out of the room if
there is a fire!!

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Pax,

Alix

               This is the day that the Lord has made.
                        Let us rejoice and be glad!!

d'huit - 08 Jun 2007 07:58 GMT
I just insist that it doesn't spread into the common areas of the house and
that she has a semi clear bit of floor so she can get out of the room if
there is a fire!!

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Pax,

Alix

hah!  with boys you provide a parachute so they can climb to the top of the
mountain of stuff piled up to jump out of the window, in case of the fire,
which might have occurred because of spontaneous combustion.<g>

kate

               This is the day that the Lord has made.
                        Let us rejoice and be glad!!

jofirey - 04 Jun 2007 21:05 GMT
>>Playboy magazines and paraphernalia (keychain, shot glass, even a condom
>>with the playboy bunny logo - often given from a girl who is interested in
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Joan

You ARE an innocent.  Are you sure you were a  kid?  LOL

Clothes go on the floor, at least the ones that still fit and are worn.
Different  areas for clean vs. to dirty to wear, if the teen is a neat
freak.

Jo
d'huit - 08 Jun 2007 07:51 GMT
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:29:57 -0400, "Adelle"
<adNOstavis@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
<gentle snip>
As an innocent (no kids) I have to ask, do any of these kids keep
clothes in these drawers??????????????

Joan

sure they do!  dirty clothes that should have been taken to the laundryroom
and the clean clothes would naturally be on the floor.lol

kate
Kelly C. - 03 Jun 2007 21:09 GMT
In my brothers' case it would have been comic books, baseball cards, random
things they picked up on the street, like old pop bottle caps, spare change,
candy wrappers, a brochure for a motorcycle they hoped to talk the 'rents
into. lol

Kelly C.

> Well, it's that time again when I start needing lots of weird little
> details for my work-in-progress. You guys always come through for me!
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> www.dianechamberlain.com
Alix - 03 Jun 2007 23:23 GMT
thinking back....stubs of pencils and out of ink ballpoint pens, pack of gum
with lint stuck to it--one piece left which is deformed beyond belief (no
would THINK of chewing it except maybe a 15 year old boy) a couple of
crumbled cigarettes--go along with the condom--which packet is faded, bent
up, also with gum remnants and lint!!  old school ID cards--(bent, linty
etc)  prob a Playboy-- or just a folded centerfold picture-note from a girl
folded into a heart shape--this heart shape now crumpled up from being
shoved into jeans pocket--probably never read from embarrassment--and
emptied when pockets emptied--in our neck of the woods a few bullets from
the last hunting trip and a Buck knife...not to mention a couple of those
jelly looking fake worms that should have been in the tackle box and a
couple of weights or bobbers....odd keys that no one know what they go
to.....

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Pax,

Alix

               This is the day that the Lord has made.
                        Let us rejoice and be glad!!

jofirey - 04 Jun 2007 00:02 GMT
> Well, it's that time again when I start needing lots of weird little
> details for my work-in-progress. You guys always come through for me!
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> thanks!

Pocketknife, lighter and or matches.  Snapshots and school pictures.  Broken
jewelry.  Some old matchbox cars, broken handheld video game.  Chapstick,
pencils, pens.  Baseball cards or other "collectable" cards.  Small change.
Toothpicks.  AA batteries.   Small plastic toys.
jofirey - 04 Jun 2007 02:44 GMT
Oh, and string.  Maybe an old yo-yo but definitely string.  And bent paper
clips.  And a couple of rocks.  Maybe an arrowhead depending on where you
are.  Or sharks teeth.  Or shells.

Jo

>> Well, it's that time again when I start needing lots of weird little
>> details for my work-in-progress. You guys always come through for me!
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> Chapstick, pencils, pens.  Baseball cards or other "collectable" cards.
> Small change. Toothpicks.  AA batteries.   Small plastic toys.
Joan Carter - 04 Jun 2007 00:44 GMT
>Well, it's that time again when I start needing lots of weird little
>details for my work-in-progress. You guys always come through for me!
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>(actually, it's 2006 in the book). So what might a 15 year old boy
>have in his messy dresser drawer?

Diane, I guess this means you have put your Bubble game on the
shelf and are working on the nineteen day deadline for your book.
:-)

Best of luck.

Joan
Diane - 04 Jun 2007 03:33 GMT
lol. joan. i wish! last night i tried to figure out how to block my
computer from opening it. i'm into the "trying to get a low score"
thing. the lowest i got was 25290. i'm obsessed.

these suggestions are great! one thing i don't understand are the
"handheld video games." if a mom looked in the drawer, what would she
call it? "oh there's his (handheld video game)

diane

> Diane, I guess this means you have put your Bubble game on the
> shelf and are working on the nineteen day deadline for your book.
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>
> Joan
Donna G. - 04 Jun 2007 06:50 GMT
hand held electronic video games:  might be things like game boy
advanced,  portable play station, and other such types of game things.
Kind of like the portable games you have on your cell phones that you
can play.   Almost all of my nieces and nephews have several different
varieties of these for road travel and such, to keep themselves
occupied.

Also, there are the portable DVD players that also have some games that
come with them that can be played.

Does that make any sense?

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Nell - 04 Jun 2007 09:21 GMT
One handheld game I'm pretty sure the mom would know the name to is PS2
(Sony Playstation 2). My 11-year-old grandson has one (and won't leave home
without it LOL) and my daughter knows exactly what it is.

Nell

> these suggestions are great! one thing i don't understand are the
> "handheld video games." if a mom looked in the drawer, what would she
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>>
>> Joan
jofirey - 04 Jun 2007 14:46 GMT
Then there are the cheepie single game units that you can play stuff like
sudoku or blackjack or other simple games on.  $20 and they last a few
months.

Jo
> One handheld game I'm pretty sure the mom would know the name to is PS2
> (Sony Playstation 2). My 11-year-old grandson has one (and won't leave
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>>> Joan
Diane - 04 Jun 2007 16:17 GMT
this has been fantastic, y'all!
adelle, you outdid yourself!
i'll have some more questions soon. i'm in total deadline mode.

diane
Adelle - 04 Jun 2007 17:07 GMT
> this has been fantastic, y'all!
> adelle, you outdid yourself!

LOL. It's a composite of both of my kids, some of their friends, a
conversation I just had with a congregant's daughter who will be an RA next
year at Syracuse U., and - actually, (don't tell) some of the ideas came
from what I found in Doug's drawers when we were moving in together tentwy
years ago (and some of what is there right now). I love him dearly, but if
you were going to have a picture of the shy, nerdy kid (but good looking)
who matured socially on a very slow path - it'd have to be Doug. (if he ever
sees this - I'm dead.)

Don't forget to stretch your hands now and then!!

Adelle

> i'll have some more questions soon. i'm in total deadline mode.
>
> diane
Squirrely - 05 Jun 2007 01:16 GMT
computer parts, to put in puter, or used that came out of the puter and they
might use again. Sorry I said they but mine was a they. ;-)

plates, dishes, etc that were not carried out to the kitchen that were to be
hid from mom.

marble, coin collections, stamps, coins just dropped in the drawer. Old pill
bottles, mine collect them from me to put tiny screws etc in.

small tools,

school books, year books, school papers they wanted to save.

hankerchiefs. never used. it must be a boy man thing I think they dont want
to be caught with a white hankerchief.

bubble gum, candy, things like that.

hidden report cards, and tardy slips,

bike and auto stuff, why those boys like to keep that old stuff who knows.
My one was into working on dads car and if dad didn't keep the stuff he did.
;-)

gifts hiding them from other family members they are going to give to.

I was trying to think of stuff others haven't listed that I remembered
spotting in the boys drawers or even Jim's the boy that never grew up. ;-)

newspaper clippings of something that was important to them.

everyone else just about covered it all though. ;-)

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vickie b. - 05 Jun 2007 09:54 GMT
One more thing that I would have found with my 15 yo guy:  an old
cookie or sweet roll.

Good luck!

Vickie B>
d'huit - 08 Jun 2007 08:01 GMT
nintendo ds is one.

kate
lol. joan. i wish! last night i tried to figure out how to block my
computer from opening it. i'm into the "trying to get a low score"
thing. the lowest i got was 25290. i'm obsessed.

these suggestions are great! one thing i don't understand are the
"handheld video games." if a mom looked in the drawer, what would she
call it? "oh there's his (handheld video game)

diane

> Diane, I guess this means you have put your Bubble game on the
> shelf and are working on the nineteen day deadline for your book.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Joan
d'huit - 08 Jun 2007 08:10 GMT
well, most of my answers were covered.  but . . . in his very cluttered
room, alex often had dresser drawers that were completely empty, probably
because the floor or dresser top or his bed was where what was originally in
the drawer went.

his cat actually made a bed for itself in a lower drawer.  most of his
dresser drawers weren't closed, not completely.

kate

Well, it's that time again when I start needing lots of weird little
details for my work-in-progress. You guys always come through for me!
Here's my current question for those of you familiar with boys around
fifteen years of age. This particular boy is a bit on the slow-to-
develop-socially side. I need to know what his mother would find if
she opened one of his dresser drawers, the drawer she allows him to
keep messy and throw anything into. The year is current day--2007
(actually, it's 2006 in the book). So what might a 15 year old boy
have in his messy dresser drawer?

thanks!

diane

www.dianechamberlain.com
Gary Z - 08 Jun 2007 13:29 GMT
> well, most of my answers were covered.  but . . . in his very cluttered
> room, alex often had dresser drawers that were completely empty, probably
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> kate

Wow kate! You just described Mikes' room to a tee!
GaryZ
Adelle - 08 Jun 2007 14:26 GMT
>> well, most of my answers were covered.  but . . . in his very cluttered
>> room, alex often had dresser drawers that were completely empty, probably
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Wow kate! You just described Mikes' room to a tee!
> GaryZ

Yeah, the drawers are never closed on Becca's dresser, either.

Adelle
 
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