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new job and serious moral dilemma. (a bit of a vent)

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Lyn@up.late - 19 May 2007 08:07 GMT
Hi all.  Well, I held out to the last minute and finally got a job
that will forever change my resume.  As of May 14 I am a supervisor
with a taxi company here in Calgary.  I now have over 600 people under
my direct supervision.  Quite a change from only having to manage a
handfuls.  I've made a much larger salary, but I did get a company
vehicle and fuel card which is worth it's weight in gold.  Full
benefits after 3 months etc. etc.

My dilemma is this.  How much is enough.  I'm a very soft hearted
(lately I'm thinking soft headed as well), compassionate person and
really want to do all I can when someone needs help.  For the last 7
weeks I've allowed my nephew (whom I hardly know...any one that knows
me here, knows that I found my birth family a few years ago), to live
here in my tiny basement apartment.  I'm the type of person who really
needs a certain amount of space.  He is schizophrenic and has a few
oddities in his behaviors.  I freely confess that despite researching
the condition, I STILL don't understand him and I can't relate to him
in any meaningful way.  

This has been driving me absolutely nuts and it's only getting worse.
He and his mother (my sister) were supposed to have found a place to
live by the end of last month.  That didn't happen.  Then it was going
to be the fifteenth of this month.  Security deposit was paid and the
place was supposed to be theirs.  The fifteenth comes and goes and
he's still freakin' here.  Last night my neighbor upstairs calls me
and wants to show me some weird things she found by the back door.
He's been writing stuff on envelopes that I had laying on the
desk...apparently he couldn't see the note pad laying fairly close by,
but whatever...maybe he like writing on envelopes.  None of what was
written made any sense to me, but the line that was the problem was
"don't hurt her".  Naturally this freaked her out just a bit seeing as
she's a single mom.  I was just relieved she called me and not the
police.  I confronted him with the envelopes and he denied any
knowledge of them.  I'm not stupid, but decided that the course of
prudence lay in letting the matter drop after suggesting very very
pointedly that while I think writing your feelings out on paper can be
very therapeutic, it's best to keep them private rather than laying
around the door step for anyone to see.  I then phoned my sister, yet
again and asked her if it was possible for him to do something and
have no memory of it later.  She said yes it is, and commented that
the stress must be causing him some problems.  I agreed that this
situation is definitely stressful and he's not the only one having
problems with it.  

I then told her very directly to get him the hell out of here.
Tonight I told him that I simply couldn't take this anymore and that
he was to find a room that he could move into immediately.  Now he's
all worried that he's going to be out on the street.  I assured him
that I wasn't going to do that, but that the end of the month is
precisely 12 days too many.  He's got it in his mind that you can only
move into a place on the first or the fifteenth of the month and I
tried to explain to him that although it might be the nineteenth, he
could still pay half a months rent and move in.  I haven't had a good
night's sleep in over 7 weeks...mostly because I only have one
bathroom and it's an en suite.  I defy anyone to sleep well when
someone goes trooping through your bedroom at 4:00 a.m. to pee.  Turns
on the light...doesn't fully close the bathroom door..etc.etc.  I feel
like I'm losing my mind and my poor cat is definitely showing signs of
neurosis.

This is interfering with my sleep, my peace of mind, my social life
(can't invite anyone over when someone is sleeping on the living room
floor...even though there IS a second bedroom...with a bed).  He
sleeps more than my cat.  The longest stretch occurred after
he went and got beer and sat watching tv and drinking till six in the
morning.  He didn't wake up more than to use the washroom (really bad
aim), for 37 hours.  Think maybe alcohol and whatever medication he is
on for his schizophrenia might have a bit of an interaction??

I felt I was doing the right thing by agreeing to let him stay here
for a month while they found a place of their own...but when is
enough, enough.  In all honesty I'm beginning to feel very used and
abused, and I don't know what to do.  I DO know what I'll never do
again....

Before anyone asks...no, there is no one else in the family that will
allow him into their home.  They've all been there and done that
already.  His mother is staying with her other son, but my nephew
isn't allowed in their house.  I feel very sorry for him, his
condition isn't his fault, or choice, but I'm afraid that after
this...he can add my name to the list of people NOT to ask.  Does that
make me a terrible person?

Thanks for letting me vent.

-- Lyn   (filethirteen@shaw.ca)  
     
        remember..."ASA" in subject line    

http://members.shaw.ca/Lynuplate/
shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 19 May 2007 13:02 GMT
On May 19, 12:07 am, "L...@up.late" <filethirt...@shaw.ca> wrote:
wow Lyn,
first congrats on the job.

Isn't there some social services place to turn to that can provide
emergency housing for your sis and her son?  Is he currently on meds?
Do they need to be adjusted?  Is he seeing a psychiatrist?

Is money the issue as to why they havn't found a place to stay?

How old is he?

Why didn't they get the new place?

If you truly want to be compassionate, find them a place to live even
if it means having to take a pay advance or take out a loan.  Get them
out of your living environment.  If he isn;t on meds,  insist that he
be.  If he is, he needs to see a psychiatrist to get them adjusted.
The scenario you described might or might not be an indicator of
future violence and you are certainly not equiped to evaluate that
potential

best of luck with this

m
Joan Carter - 19 May 2007 15:59 GMT
>Before anyone asks...no, there is no one else in the family that will
>allow him into their home.  They've all been there and done that
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>this...he can add my name to the list of people NOT to ask.  Does that
>make me a terrible person?

No, and you need to get him out NOW. Call his mother and tell her
it is up to her to either get him out or into hospital. I doubt
if he is taking his meds or taking them correctly. You need to
look after you first.
Harvey R. Stone - 19 May 2007 21:33 GMT
>>Before anyone asks...no, there is no one else in the family that will
>>allow him into their home.  They've all been there and done that
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> if he is taking his meds or taking them correctly. You need to
> look after you first.

my thoughts too.

Harv
debbie m - 19 May 2007 16:41 GMT
Lyn,

You've gone beyond what you said you would do.  You've done more than
most would have.  He needs to be out ASAP.  Social Services should be
able to help find a place.  I'm with the one who said even if you have
to pay for a months rent it would be worth it to have him in another
place.  It is really his Mom's and his brothers responsibility to help
him now.  Don't feel guilty you've done what you could.

debbie m.
Nann Bell - 19 May 2007 16:56 GMT
Congratulations on the job and I hope it works out well for you!

No, you are NOT a terrible person.  It's really hard to know where to set the
boundaries in such situations.  You deserve to have your own space and some
peace to tend to your own health.  

I agree with all that M says......

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Carole - 19 May 2007 17:34 GMT
> Congratulations on the job and I hope it works out well for you!
>
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>
> I agree with all that M says......

I agree with what everyone else said. No, you are not a terrible person.
YOUR safety comes first. Tell his mother to get him out of there or call
social services. One way or the other, you need peace of mind and sleep.

HUGS,
Carole
Ann - 19 May 2007 21:25 GMT
I have to agree with everyone else, you need to get him out of there
NOW.  I would call his mother and/or brother and tell them to come get
him today.  If not, tell them you are taking him to the nearest hospital
ER and dropping him off and leaving their names as next of kin to
contact.  Then, do it.  
You cannot continue to put yourself and your home in jeopardy.

Ann
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 19 May 2007 17:28 GMT
NO - it does NOT make you a terrible person. There are professional
facilities for people like him and your home is not one of them. Get him
some state help if he can't afford a private one. There are many agencies
that could possibly help here.

Congrats on the new job. At least you can stay in one spot for a while and
not always be on the road.

Hugs, DeeTee

> Hi all.  Well, I held out to the last minute and finally got a job
> that will forever change my resume.  As of May 14 I am a supervisor
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>
> http://members.shaw.ca/Lynuplate/
Squirrely - 19 May 2007 22:56 GMT
Lyn,

Congrats on the new job.

No I don't think it makes you mean and yes I agree with all the others about
the nephew needs to go. So I hope you can get him going soon.

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Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one

>> Hi all.  Well, I held out to the last minute and finally got a job
>> that will forever change my resume.  As of May 14 I am a supervisor
[quoted text clipped - 82 lines]
>>
>> -- Lyn
Adelle - 20 May 2007 02:32 GMT
Dear Lyn,

Congrats on your new job and the good things happening in your life. And as
for the bad - sending strength.
I'm going to suggest something for your own protection and survival. It is a
selfish thing and if its not the way you want to go, that's just fine. It's
a way to protect your health, physical and mental. Its what we used to tell
families when I volunteered with an agency which provided legal and mental
health services to indigent population in Cambridge, MA.

OK - I'm putting on my atty hat - Here goes. This is going to sound really
cold, especially given everything Melinda's family is going through. But her
evil SIL's tactic would work here.

It may be time to "be cruel to be kind."  Call his shrink (name should be on
the RX bottle), or the nearest hospital and tell them about the 'frightening
content' of his note on the envelope; that you think he isn't taking his
meds correctly because he is sleeping and acting erratically and is also
drinking; that you feel in danger because  he can't remember writing these
notes and he may act and not be able to control his action or remember
anything about it. It is all true. You won't be making anything up. You'll
be taking an extreme tactic. But you need to put a priority on your health
and safety.

They may advise calling the police. Do it. How he reacts will determine
whether they arrest and get him committed involuntarily for an evaluation.

It won't endear yourself to your sister at all. It may exacerbate your
nephew's symptoms initially. But getting him in-patient may be just what he
needs to get his meds balanced. Right now, he is overstressed by trying to
live a 'normal' life and the need to find housing. If he is inpatient, he
will not have that stress (at least for a few days) and the hospital social
worker can help in that dept. He may also become a priority for handicapped
subsidized housing.

He is not managing his medical/psychiatric condition and it is affecting
*your* health and safety.

And if the ER just releases him, do not let him back in. Get him a cheap
motel room for the night and tell your sister he is her child and her
responsibility. You are done being taken advantage of. You now know the
reason no one else in the family will allow him to live in their homes.

It may be sad that he will wind up 'homeless.' The safety net just isn't
there when it should be. But by being homeless, he is a higher priority for
services. Living with you, he's not in an emergency situation so goes to the
bottom of the list. So forcing him out is another cruel to be kind thing.
Live and learn. Get him out and change your locks.

Sending love, Adelle

> Hi all.  Well, I held out to the last minute and finally got a job
> that will forever change my resume.  As of May 14 I am a supervisor
[quoted text clipped - 86 lines]
>
> http://members.shaw.ca/Lynuplate/
 
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