Oh my gosh, M, that is just horrible.   Sigh, I so wish I lived closer
and could come over to not only give you a big hug in person, but also
be supportive in what ever other ways you might need.

Definitely lifting prayers up for you, Megan, and Logan as well as
prayers that your dil will keep her nose out of places it doesn't
belong!

I so wish I had a magic want to make this all better, but I know I
can't.

Just know that you have friends and family here and if there is ANY way
we can help, please don't be too proud to ask. Shoot, I don't have much,
but would be more than willing to send you money or whatever else you
might need.

You have my phone number if you ever need to talk, and of course others
will be praying for you as well.  Will light a candle in a few minutes
for you and your family.

Hang in there dear friend and don't let go ot that rope!!!

love ya!

Donna G.
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ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call
them FRIENDS......

How evil.  May Karma catch up with Angela one day.

Am wracking my little lawyer brain and can't find a way to deal with this,
yet. It's not even filing a false police report because she went to Kaiser
and not the police. There needs to be a way to tag Megan's file with a
warning that Angela as a person whose info is not reliable in regards to
Megan.

Oh, wait - there is a civil tort - intentional infliction of emotional
distress!!!! There needs to be physical harm. Logan could sue for loss of
consortium.....

Let me think a little more.

Adelle

Oh M and family
I am so sorry for your distress and problems.  I wish I could do something
to help with your difficulties.  You are so great at helping others and now
need help for yourself and family.  I will light a candle and think healing,
uplifting, and helpful wishes for all of you.  Keep hope that there is a
light at the end of the very looonnng tunnel.
Sincerely
Lorrie F

Melinda,
My prayers and thoughts and everything else I can muster up will go to the 3
of you.  What a horrible thing to do!  I can understand how megan feels - we
think these things, say them out loud and then muster up that energy to
fight again.  Doesn't mean anyone should report us!  And if they do - well
what a crock to do it to speed things up.  Logan is justified in being
confused and scared - goodness knows his life is in turmoil too.

I wish I could help but know that you can climb out of this somehow.  Too
much is happening right now though and it is probably hard to find the
centre of your being.  Try hard to take time in your day to regain
yourself - just focus on Melinda - not how to handle things, not Megan or
Logan just Melinda.  You know how to do it - I know you do.  Some essential
oils and epsom salts in a bucket of water for your feet or if you can get in
and out of the bath in the bath for your whole being.

Everything will be okay again - you have to believe in that.  It won't be
the same - it might be different but it will be okay.  Meanwhile if you can
get Megan in at some point for some antidepressants for the depression and
pain that might help a little there.  Tell Megan I am thinking and praying
for her and Logan.  I really know her pain - neurological pain is so tough;
I never realized there could be different pain but it is different.  Please
tell her I was there a year ago and it is now still there but manageable -
much more manageable.  If you want me to phone her I would love to.  Send me
her phone number offline and I will listen to her.

Covering you with gentle hugs.  Hoping your stability comes back soon.  Take
care of yourself even for 10 minutes a day - you are important in this wheel
that is going round and round.

Hugs,
Kelly

m, i'm so glad you let us know what's going on so we can gear up our
prayers and light our candles and hold you in our virtual arms. people
like angela give us MSWs a bad name. the power goes to their heads at
times.

kelly had some good suggestions for taking care of yourself. i hope
you'll also ask your friends who live near you and near megan for
help. you're always there for everyone else. now it's your turn.

please keep us posted. i'm worried about you all.

diane

(((((((((((((((Melinda, Megan & Logan))))))))))))))))))

Sending healing thoughts & prayers in your direction.  Kaiser should
definitely put the info about your DiL in Megan's file.  What a
terrible thing to do!

Be sure to take a little time for Melinda, and make sure that Megan &
Logan know we love them and that everything will be all right.

Shannon

oh, damn.  ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((megan and melinda and
logan))))))))))))))))))))  that's worse than the pitts!  sounds like angela
has a vicious, cruel streak.  poor megan and sweet little logan.  i am sooo
sad and sorry this has happened, hon.

i ran into a similar "cruel busybody" kind of thing when butch was so ill.
his sister was "trying to be helpful" (so she said) by telling butch's
doctor that his tiny little cat, mugs, was making him sicker and causing
breathing difficulties.  she was the one who was allergic to cats, not butch
at all, and his little cat was what brightened butch's day with his
kittenish antics and his constant and sweet companionship.  butch was in
tears when i found him in his hospital bed, after his doctor told him he
would have to get rid of his cat.  tearfully told me that the doctors were
taking away everything he loved.  broke my heart and made me very angry.

i immediately had a long talk with his doctor, away from butch's hearing,
about how fear-based and projective his sister was in the way she saw her
own symptoms in others and how destructive her acting out on her
misperceptions often was.  also told him to go see how it affected butch.
the doctor did and he wasn't happy about what he saw.  also told him she
should have tested butch for cat allergies, if he really believed mugs was
an issue worthy of destroying my husband's happiness over (and that i knew
he wasn't allergic) before he made such an offhand comment about getting rid
of his cat.  the doctor put a page with a red box and tab on the top page
and on several other pages of butch's chart to alert nurses and the other
specialists about his sister's negative intrusiveness.  said he didn't
realize how much mugs meant to butch nor that his sister was "such a
busybody" (his words).  asked me if i wanted him to ban her from seeing
butch, but i told him no, because i knew butch loved his sister.

then, i confronted butch's sister and flat out told her *exactly* how her
meddling affected butch's mental state and his health.  bluntly told her to
quit being so cruelly destructive, instead of kindly supportive of her
brother, if she really loved and cared about him.  told her the doctor asked
me if i wanted her banned from seeing her brother and that i said no.  also
told her that i would reconsider banning her, if that kind of thing ever
happened again.  it didn't.

i think it might be wise to get something in writing from megan's doctor to
reassure megan's landlord, before this starts snowballing worse than it
already has.  sounds like alan is caught between the devil and the deep blue
sea, running interference for his wife, probably at angela's prompting to
cover her own a.s.  and that's too bad because there needs to be some kind
of serious consequences for angela--but i'm not sure what.    it also sounds
like megan needs a little help putting angela's actions into some kind of
perspective that helps her pull herself back up from the devastating
effects/consequences she experienced because of angela's actions.  (though i
don't generally like to suggest this--a little anger on megan's part might
make her feel less helplessly at the mercy of others.)  also have megan have
her doctor red flag her chart about angela to alert other health care
professionals about her--might help her feel like she has some personal
power.  doctors know that people like angela is not an uncommon thing in
families, but they do need to be made aware of family members like angela.

again, i'm sooo sorry this happened to all of you.
((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))

kate

I have to tell you guys that I am seriously sinking here.  Last
Thursday my son's horrifying wife (the one who chooses spanking as a
discipline for a two year old) who is an MSW, called kaiser and told
them that Megan was going to kill herself.  Megan has said often
during the last month of this RSD hell she is in that she doesn't know
if she can go on with this kind of pain but had never said She was
going to commit suicide.  Angela told the psychiatrist at Kaiser that
Megan had a gun (she is an ex-cop, for God's sake) Because angel is a
mental health worker, they just took her word for all of this,  The
police came to megan's door, hauled her out, searched her house for
her gun, and took her to Kaiser where they held her for hours.  There
was no one to get Logan who was scared to death that his mom didn't
show up.  Megan's neighbors all witnessed her being heauled out of her
house.  Her landlord is "concerned" about her mental health and "might
ask her to move"

Well they released her from Kaiser but the damage has been done.  Her
RSD Which is very responsive to stress) got a much worse, started
spreading to her hands and arms and neck.  Logan is freaking out
constantly because megan can't even pick him up and hold him right
now.  I was in Sebastopol from Thursday until Tuesday.  My knee (from
the fall a few onths ago) popped out of joint again and I am sitting
in my little tiny house unable to move.

Megan called me last night and I think she is might now actually
suicidal.  Quite ironic.

Alan's explaination for angela's behavior is that they thought they
could get her an appoinment faster (megan is waiting for an
appointment with chronic pain to try to get an antidepressent and some
med for pain and it was a three week out appointment).  Yeah, right.
Angela has never liked Megan.  You don't call someone and tell them
that your SIL is going to commit suicide and has a gun and has
threatened to use it, to try to get her appoinment set up faster.

SO I need prayers for Megan right now and I would consider it a
personal favor if you have a prayer group that you could ask to pray
for Megan and Logan.

Funny thing is that I am immersed in a despair so deep I don't know
how I am going to climb out of this and I am rarely anything other
than stable.

I just don't know how this year could have happened and if anything
will ever be ok again

m

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Sending Good Thoughts,
{{{{Megan,Logan,Melinda}}}}

GrampaHugs,
Alex,

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I am so sorry that you are going through this. My thoughts and prayers
are with you.
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Prayers being said for all of you.

BIG HUGS,
Carole

Ugh! My God, what a terrible person Angela is to inflict this kind of misery
on another human being, and she's a therapist?! I'm appalled and saddened
for Megan, you, and especially little Logan, who really has no idea what's
going on, but knows it isn't right.

I so wish there more I could do than send my love and prayers. I will light
candles for all of you, and hold you in my heart tonight, wishing fervently
for a miracle.

I love you, M!
Kelly C.

prayers coming that way M, and if you need to talk I am around. I hope you
still have my number.

Here's some extra rope for you my dear. I have plenty here so you can have
as much as you need.
We have often been told here at the University that any sign of possible
mental trouble needs to be alerted to
officials immediately for intervention. They can then make a determination
by "experts" to see if there is a real
problem or not. It is totally a "preventative" measure as we do get our
share of kids under too much self imposed pressure who respond negatively.
We have the busiest train line in the country run through our town and every
year we get a few who take themselves out that way. I'm not trying to
condone Angelas actions here as I am not close enough to the situation.
Life does take it's turns up, down, and sideways doesn't it?  Hang in there
kiddo, this too shall pass.
GaryZ

Of course I will be praying for you all...
and sending  you so many hugs....
Keep looking up...I know sometimes it is so hard especially when everything
is wrong and you start slipping into the black hole and the only thing
keeping you out is those in the family that need you and you just wished
everyone didn't need so much so you could just slide on in the hole....
Keep looking up...
Millions of hugs and prayers
Cindy

{{{{{{{{{{M and Megan and Logan}}}}}}}}}}

DeeTee

One thing I have learned over the years is that far too many people don't
think through the longer range consequences of their actions.  We'd like to
think an MSW would have more sense, but that often isn't the case.  I'm
sending prayers for all - you, Megan, Logan, and Angela and Allan - everyone
needs to find some balance in this situation.

For Logan - maybe you can get in touch with Duckie about how she dealt with
being unable to pick up Jen when she was a baby.  I forget the details, but
remember they worked out some signals and alternatives so Jen got her
necessary affection within parameters Duckie could handle.  And if Logan knws
that Mommy isn't feeling well, but by doing things this way, he can get hugs
AND help Mommy feel better, that will help empower him.

Prayers for peaceful minds and hearts to cope with this all.

On May 17, 12:49 pm, shenmei9w...@gmail.com wrote:

You are all in my thoughts & prayers.
luv&hugs&prayers,
Denise

M, how about an update if you are online.  Has Megan's RSD flare eased up
any?  Is Logan feeling any calmer?  I continue to worry about them after such
a traumatic occurance.

Wow, you all need a break from all of this. I know I'm a million miles
away but if there is every anything I can do...even if it's only to pray
for you and your family, please don't hesitate to ask.

melissa (yup, I'm the long lost one ;) )