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Ladybug75 - 03 May 2007 15:10 GMT
Hello,

Lately, the pain is worst at night, burning, stabbing, and very tender to
the touch, try to rub some ointment was very painful, I always believed that
OA was getting better at rest, and yesterday I really did not push my self
during the Day to see if he would make a difference, nothing.the location is
top of the hip down the thigh and going down in the front of my lower leg,
both his are bad, but the right one only hurt in the groin when moving a
certain way, the left one is the one who will  be replaced next month.
Thank you.
Meds I am taking now at night, 600mg of Ibuprofen, one Vicodin, 300mg of
Neurotin and the rest is blood pressure med and Lipitor, like my hubby would
says, I am a  drug addict.
Gigi.
Harvey R. Stone - 03 May 2007 15:53 GMT
like my hubby would
> says, I am a  drug addict.
> Gigi.

Wellll,  your hubby is wrong.   There is something wrong though and a couple
of trips to a good Rheumatologist can stop all this.   Yeah,  I know they
are expensive but so is good health.  Please,,,, do not spend years maybe of
putting up with pain and loss of function when you could of put a stop to
this a long time ago and you are worth it.

Harv
Ladybug75 - 03 May 2007 17:59 GMT
Harv,

I have a Rheumatologist, who refuses to give me stronger medications and
told me once I have my hip replaced, the pain will go away.
The surgery is 34 Days away and counting.

Thanks,

Gigi.

> like my hubby would
>> says, I am a  drug addict.
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>
> Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 03 May 2007 18:25 GMT
> Harv,
>
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>
> Gigi.

Welll,,,, do you understand why stronger medications have been refused?  I
hope your replacement is documented here for others to read,,, recovery is
documented here for those that need it to,,,,, can understand what is taking
place and do what is best for them also.
Harv
Ladybug75 - 03 May 2007 23:59 GMT
Harv,

According to my surgeon, first and foremost, any anti inflammatory meds for
obvious reason ( bleeding) and also have been told that with type of surgery
there is more bleeding and something I did not know, a high fever, the body
fighting the prosthesis, but coming back to medications, no stronger
medications, because the one I will need after the surgery would not be as
effective,ok that's make sense, but giving me something different than what
will be used post op, would really help now.
Gigi.

>> Harv,
>>
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> taking place and do what is best for them also.
> Harv
Rosemarie Shiver - 03 May 2007 16:05 GMT
Obviously your hubby doesn't have any of the pain you have or he wouldn't
call you names.

  You're on hardly anything. I'm very low in pill dosage, compared to many:
only 1200mg. Neurontin each day, with up to 200 mg. Darvocet and up to 1500
mg. Lodine. Your dosage is 1/4 of what mine is and I'm not facing a hip
replacement. I have Connective Tissue Disease.

  It's much easier to treat pain if you get out ahead of instead of playing
catch up when the pain has taken firm hold. No, you're not a drug addict and
your pain is obviously undertreated, ok? Ask your doc to up your dosages --
you'll recover better and faster when your pain is controlled.

  Tell hubby I said to shuddup. :-)

Hugs from Rosie

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> Hello,
>
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> says, I am a  drug addict.
> Gigi.
Ladybug75 - 03 May 2007 17:57 GMT
Thanks for the hugs Rosie, waiting on my Rheumatologist to give me some
stronger medications.
If I told my hubby to shuddup, he might get very mad, like he says, he's the
head of the house.
Hugs back to you.
Gigi.
>  Obviously your hubby doesn't have any of the pain you have or he wouldn't
> call you names.
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>> says, I am a  drug addict.
>> Gigi.
Harvey R. Stone - 03 May 2007 18:18 GMT
> Thanks for the hugs Rosie, waiting on my Rheumatologist to give me some
> stronger medications.
> If I told my hubby to shuddup, he might get very mad, like he says, he's
> the head of the house.
> Hugs back to you.
> Gigi.

:-)  You do not have to tell him to shut up, and sometime its worth a person
getting mad at what they are not doing correct to find out that what they
are doing or support is not good for their better half.
   Ooooh,,,, it is so hard sometimes for a person to show someone that what
they are doing is wrong     for   me.....   First off,,,, a person has to
admit to their self that I am important too..... What I am having a problem
with is important too,,,, real too,,,, for me ,,,,, and we are back to the
fact that what I have or want is important too.....   Am not going to go on
and on but self worth can be built,,,, can be grown to be of value.....
Gigis problems are of value are important and hurt just as much as anyone
elses problems or pain.

Harv
Rosemarie Shiver - 03 May 2007 19:43 GMT
I tell my Normie to shuddup when he's not thinking it thru and not being
supportive, Harv. Rarely, but I do. That's because I'm lucky enough to have
an understanding spouse.

  There is a place, as you say, for standing up for yourself when you're
not being valued -- and doing it firmly and clearly works.

  If Gigi doesn't want to do that then I suggest she drags his sorry self
to the Rheumatologist with her and have him tell her MD that he thinks his
wife is a drug addict. Then when the Doc tells him to shuddup because she's
not then he'll know something. :-))))

 I don't care how old and set in one's ways someone is...being mean due to
being ignorant and staying that way is wrong.

  I'm not even going to tell Gigi again that her question isn't
stupid...but that she keeps refering to her questions that way speaks
volumes, unfortunately.

ReHugs from Rosie

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> > Thanks for the hugs Rosie, waiting on my Rheumatologist to give me some
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> Harv
Ladybug75 - 03 May 2007 21:46 GMT
You are all soooo right, I have a very low self esteem, he knows it and have
use it for the past 20 years we are together, I'm mad at myself for been so
weak, one example, in 1993 I went to school to become a Nurse's aide, the
bottom of the ladder, and I really was thinking later on to go back to
school to be a LPN, to which he told me many times, that I would never make
it, and me of course, instead of going back and prove to him that I could, I
continue to do my job, do not get me wrong, I enjoyed every minute taking
care of patients, I was going to their homes helping them with baths,
medications, and other little things, but what I found out is that everyone
of those people were lonely and loved to share their life experiences and I
am a good listener, I did that job for 10 years, and unfortunately hurt my
back and had to do something else.
Now when mad at me, my husband who has a bachelor degree, and other fancy
degree, tell me when he's mad, that I was just a BMW, bowel movement wiper,
so yes you are right, at my age, I don't think I will never have the courage
to tell him to go to H..., I do not live, I survive, and am very aware of
it.
But I thank you all for your kindness., oh and no I do not feel sorry for
myself, just tired of fighting a losing battle.
Gigi

>> Thanks for the hugs Rosie, waiting on my Rheumatologist to give me some
>> stronger medications.
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>
> Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 04 May 2007 00:19 GMT
> You are all soooo right, I have a very low self esteem, he knows it and
> have use it for the past 20 years we are together, I'm mad at myself for
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> myself, just tired of fighting a losing battle.
> Gigi

 When you realize that its a losing battle because you choose not to
fight,,,,, it will be a day of change for your husband,,,,, for yourself.
You thank me for a kindness but really it is painful and it hurts,,,  I wish
I could hold your hand and look you in the eyes while I tell you that your
world is important too,,,, your pain is important too...    I really have
nothing else to say of importance.   I just want you to know that God loves
you and we love you in this newsgroup.
\
Harv
Ladybug75 - 04 May 2007 01:19 GMT
All I can tell you is thank you, that's my problem,I do not feel important
at all, and so many people are suffering so much more, I really do believe
that I got immune to humiliation, years after years, well maybe not the
little note sent by the woman in the group, the spammer hurt me, and you
see, it was so unimportant.
Gigi.

>> You are all soooo right, I have a very low self esteem, he knows it and
>> have use it for the past 20 years we are together, I'm mad at myself for
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> \
> Harv
Nann Bell - 04 May 2007 05:41 GMT
> Now when mad at me, my husband who has a bachelor degree, and other fancy
> degree, tell me when he's mad, that I was just a BMW, bowel movement wiper,
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> myself, just tired of fighting a losing battle.
> Gigi

well, don't worry about telling HIM to shuddup, just tell yourself more
positive things when he says nasty things.  So what if he calls you a BMW -
in my mind, when someone is ill and needs a "BMW" than there is no greater
gift than someone who can fill that role with kindness and grace.  Don't
worry about convincing him of that - just work on convincing yourself.  ANY
legitimate job is honorable if done with pride.  Hey, it just occured to me
that it's like the guy says on that "Dirty Jobs" show on Discovery - he's
celebrating the people who do the jobs that make life easier for the rest of
us.

I worked in hospitals for a number of years in different jobs.  I KNOW what a
difference the nursing aides made in good patient care.  I was delighted that
so many good people were doing a job I personally would not have been so good
at.

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jofirey - 04 May 2007 06:09 GMT
>> Now when mad at me, my husband who has a bachelor degree, and other fancy
>> degree, tell me when he's mad, that I was just a BMW, bowel movement
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> good
> at.

Let me add in my two cents.  Really kind people are all too rare in this
world.  I was cared for by one of them when I was in the hospital after
surgery, mentally and physically just about ready to quit.  My kidneys were
shut down, I was swollen up like a blimp, I hurt, and I was out of my head
from the medications I was on fighting infection and allergic reactions
both.  For the most part everyone there worked and talked around me and over
me and might as well have been caring for plants in a greenhouse.  I still
remember the woman who bathed me on the second or third day.  Very carefully
and gently.  Not in a rush.  And she talked to me the whole time.  I don't
even remember what she said, but I remember that for a little while she made
me feel human.  Now most people wouldn't want her job.  But she wasn't most
people.  Then again I do believe sometimes angels walk among us.

Jo
Ladybug75 - 04 May 2007 11:29 GMT
Jo,

What a wonderful letter, and so right, I wish I could do that job again,
what's funny is that my surgery will be done where I was working before, and
going there for some test or the class, some of my ex colleagues remember me
and had a kind word, and it really make my Day.
Thank you Jo
Hugs,

Gigi

>>> Now when mad at me, my husband who has a bachelor degree, and other
>>> fancy
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> Jo
Carole - 03 May 2007 19:41 GMT
> Thanks for the hugs Rosie, waiting on my Rheumatologist to give me some
> stronger medications.
> If I told my hubby to shuddup, he might get very mad, like he says, he's the
> head of the house.
> Hugs back to you.
> Gigi.

He needs a reality check. This is 2007. Tell him you are equals.
Nann Bell - 04 May 2007 05:41 GMT
>>> Neurotin and the rest is blood pressure med and Lipitor, like my hubby
>> would
>>> says, I am a  drug addict.
>>> Gigi.

or, like I say, better living through chemistry!  And there's no addiction
when the need is legitimate.  Besides, without us, who would keep all the
pharmaceutical companies in businesss?

I hope you get more help with your pre-op pain.  If your RD refuses, you
might try your surgeon-to-be.

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Kelly - 03 May 2007 17:53 GMT
No you are not a drug addict Gigi.  If you were taking the vicodin with no
pain and were craving the next one you might start to worry.  the blood
pressure med and lipitor are working on keeping you from stroking out -
would you drive a car without oil?  The amount of neurotin you are taking is
so small it is ridiculous - not sure why you are taking it but don't worry
about that dose - likewise the vicodin if you are taking one.  The
ibuprofen - well enough said.

Sometimes these things catch up to us.  It could have been something you did
a week ago and rest for one day is not going to make a difference.  After
your left hip is done then reassess and talk to you doctor.  The gait from
the left leg could also be hurting your right.

You might like to think about some counselling even if your husband doesn't
go along.  It might be needed to make you feel a little better.

Kelly

> Hello,
>
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> would says, I am a  drug addict.
> Gigi.
Bud - 03 May 2007 18:15 GMT
> Meds I am taking now at night, 600mg of Ibuprofen, one Vicodin, 300mg of
> Neurotin and the rest is blood pressure med and Lipitor, like my hubby would
> says, I am a  drug addict.

LOL! Then I should be imprisoned. Depending on the strength of your
tablets, you might consider taking two Vicodins. (the amount of the
acetaminophen is the danger factor). Hang in there.

Bud
Squirrely - 06 May 2007 21:57 GMT
Kiki,

I have been reading your posts. My heart goes out to you. I know how it
goes.

Do you have FMS or DDD? Fibromyalgia or Dengenrative Disk Disease.

That is not much meds you are on at all. That is probably why you are still
hurting so much.

I understand the tired of fighting a losing battle. I think we all do.

I understand the low self esteem issues all to well too. I always got told
that I was no good and I couldn't do things, and I wouldn't be much help to
anyone etc etc etc. So I know those issues all to well. That is why I still
have trouble accepting thanks and such.

What about hospice care, just being there and giving patients family time to
go out, you can talk with the patiente and keep them company. Would
something like that work for you?

I know you are a good person just by what you write. So don't let others
take you down. I know i am a good one to talk. ;-)

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Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one

> Hello,
>
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> would says, I am a  drug addict.
> Gigi.
Ladybug75 - 07 May 2007 00:39 GMT
Jo,

Thank you for understanding, I have degenerative OA, bone to bone, with
bursitis of both hips, not one specialist has found a medication that
relieved the pain , so I am waiting for my surgery in June, one month from
today.
I would love working in an hospice, and that's something I will look into,
after my surgeries.
My peaceful week end is over, my husband is waking in the door, he never
mention me surgery, drives me crazy, but what can I do.

Thank you again for a sweet letter, gentle hugs.
Kiki
> Kiki,
>
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>> would says, I am a  drug addict.
>> Gigi.
Squirrely - 07 May 2007 23:36 GMT
Your welcome KiKi.

I have OA, DDD, bursitis in the hips too and numerous other issues. I am not
going to list them or they will put me back in the 3 is a limit line and it
is so long. ;-)

So I do know how you feel. I wish you didn't have to feel that way. No one
should have to suffer like we all do.

I am sorry your peaceful week is over. But hang in there if you can.

You take care and know we are all in this with you and there for you if you
need us. You can email me if you want if you need to talk.

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Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one

> Jo,
>
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>>> would says, I am a  drug addict.
>>> Gigi.
 
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