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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / May 2007OTP: I'm a grandpa
Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in Florida. She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. congrads. hope all are doing well!! I am sure you are a proud papa | Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in | Florida. | | She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. | | Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. Congratulations Grandpa, good job.  SignatureLove and Hugs to all Jo the squirrely one "california_chief" > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. Congrats! Is it baby season or what?! I know 7 people who have given birth in the last 6 months. --Ashley ========= ~~AN. >> Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in >> Florida. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > --Ashley Aha, you are at that age. Everyone you know is hauling baby stuff around, and talking babies, etc. And then they all start looking at you, and maybe not asking when you are going to get with the program, but you feel a bit pressured anyway. But there is still loads of time to decide what and when is right for you. I was shocked a few nights at the number of strollers at the little league game. It seemed like everyone was either burping an infant or steadying a toddler on it feet. The nine year old pitcher on our team (my grandson) has been at the little league park every season since before he was born. So has the girl who was pitching for the other team. They used to play in the dirt together when they were little. Time flies. Jo WooooooHoooooooo!! Congrats, Chief! DeeTee > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. Congrats Chief Harv Congrats! That's so sweet! Vickie B. >Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in >Florida. > >She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > >Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. Wonderful! Congratulations. Rose @}>->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB Please remove "Ima" to reply. What a beautiful name!!!| >Reagan Alexa jb Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in | >Florida. | > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | | Please remove "Ima" to reply. Conga rats Chief & Mary...and especially the new parents -- particularly the Mom! In time for Mother's Day: wise DIL there. <g> Hugs from Rosie Signature"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself." -- Meat Loaf, Bat Outta Hell II > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. On May 2, 9:42 pm, "california_chief" <Fire_Chief@Jamacha_Junction_FD.ca.us> wrote: > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. Wow Joe, congrats! This is going to be the most fun you ever had m congratulations, chief! have fun. diane Nice size - congratulations Grandpa! and Grama! Kelly > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. Congratulations Chief and family. Picture please? Ann > Congratulations Chief and family. Picture please? I'm awaiting arrival of picture(s) Supposed to have been here this morning but it's not in my inbox yet. >> Congratulations Chief and family. Picture please? > > I'm awaiting arrival of picture(s) > > Supposed to have been here this morning but it's not in my inbox yet. That happens with new parents. I'm glad we got pictures from my nephew while they were still in Korea, because we haven't heard from them since they got home. Babies are so endlessly time consuming! Jo > Congratulations Chief and family. Picture please? Well, the pictures arrived. But I don't know how/where to post them. Congratulations Chief , you must be proud.... Gigi. > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. Congratulations! Adelle > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. That is just absolutely wonderful. I really love her name. Jo > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. Welcome to the world Reagan Alexa Nicholson. I like that middle name. :-) Sending Good Thoughts, {{{{Reagan, Mommy & Daddy, Grand Parents}}}} GrampaHugs, Alex, -- **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * http://home.comcast.net/~apbarna/ * http://goldenmist.org/ahr_faq/index.html * http://goldenmist.org/grampahugs/ * http://goldenmist.org/ **************************************************** Welcome to Reagan and congratulations to Grandpaand the parents. Is this your first one? Gwen > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. Congrats, Chief! You'll have to post some pictures for us soon. :0) Shannon Gwen wrote: > Welcome to Reagan and congratulations to Grandpa and the parents. > Is this your first one? Ahhhhhhhh, no! <VBG> The first, Cassaudra, arrived in June 1986. Then Jayson, Cortney, Katilyn. Later John, Skylyn, Gage, and now Reagan. Plus 3 step-grandkids after since a son remarried in 2001. Boy you got this grandpa stuff down pat then don't you Joe. LOL :-) SignatureLove and Hugs to all Jo the squirrely one The first, Cassaudra, arrived in June 1986. > > Then Jayson, Cortney, Katilyn. > > Later John, Skylyn, Gage, and now Reagan. > > Plus 3 step-grandkids after since a son remarried in 2001. > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. congratulations, Gramps! SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare Congrats, Grandpa! Gloria > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. Joe wrote: > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT Whoops! Make that Tuesday evening at 2200 EDT. Something was lost in the long distance call to a son here, who relayed the info to me. > Reagan Alexa Nicholson . > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. http://www.growingfamily.com/webnursery/babypage.asp?URLID=8125893436 oh how precious. thanks for sharing that with us. SignatureLove and Hugs to all Jo the squirrely one "california_chief" >> Reagan Alexa Nicholson . >> Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. > > http://www.growingfamily.com/webnursery/babypage.asp?URLID=8125893436 Reagan is such a sweet, pretty young lady. Just imagine how beautiful she will be when she grows up! Gwen >> Reagan Alexa Nicholson . >> Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. > > http://www.growingfamily.com/webnursery/babypage.asp?URLID=8125893436 On May 10, 12:54 am, "california_chief" <Fire_Chief@Jamacha_Junction_FD.ca.us> wrote: > > Reagan Alexa Nicholson . > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. > > http://www.growingfamily.com/webnursery/babypage.asp?URLID=8125893436 She's GORGEOUS! Thanks for sharing, Chief! Shannon >> Reagan Alexa Nicholson . >> Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. > > http://www.growingfamily.com/webnursery/babypage.asp?URLID=8125893436 Hey, Chief - to get back to the REAL purpose of this thread - she is a beautiful new grandbaby! Nice looking, adoring parents, too. May she continue to bring everyone the joy you are feeling today throughout her life! SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare > >> Reagan Alexa Nicholson . > >> Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > beautiful new grandbaby! Nice looking, adoring parents, too. May she > continue to bring everyone the joy you are feeling today throughout her life! Indeed! Imagine her sadness when she realizes her Grandpa is a liar... Very sad... I guess he could raise her to hate firefighters like he does..sigh..so sad... > -- > Nann > remove the Gator cheer to email me > Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare On May 3, 12:42 am, "california_chief" <Fire_Chief@Jamacha_Junction_FD.ca.us> wrote: > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. CONGRATULATIONS!!! When you say that you're a 'chief', you mean that you're a 'chief' of a volunteer department, right? There was no extensive testing or education requirements to become a 'chief' for you, right? In professional Fire Departments becoming a 'chief' usually entails a College degree and a few thousand hours of experience. In my department it requires a minimum of 1500 fire reports, plus 10 years as a Lieutenant and another 5 as Captain. Just curious as to your credentials... How many years as an officer and how many fire calls have you been in charge of? HJA No,,, he is a real fireman but only at heart now. After many, many years in the fire department, he was forced to retire due to AS. His collection of fire patches is almost famous from nearly all the states and I wonder how many different countries. Are you a fireman too, HJA? Harv > When you say that you're a 'chief', you mean that you're a 'chief' of > a volunteer department, right? There was no extensive testing or [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > HJA >No,,, he is a real fireman but only at heart now. After many, many years >in the fire department, he was forced to retire due to AS. His collection >of fire patches is almost famous from nearly all the states and I wonder how >many different countries. He has two or three from Canada that I sent him, Harvey. I suspect he has them from many countries. Joan > No,,, he is a real fireman but only at heart now. After many, many years > in the fire department, he was forced to retire due to AS. His collection > of fire patches is almost famous from nearly all the states and I wonder how > many different countries. Are you a fireman too, HJA? Just retired after 26 years. I'm still kind of curious though, I've never run into a professional firefighter that collected patches. That's usually the kind of thing that volunteers go for. > Harv > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > HJA >> No,,, he is a real fireman but only at heart now. After many, many >> years [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > never run into a professional firefighter that collected patches. > That's usually the kind of thing that volunteers go for. He is the type of person that would volunteer to help his fellowman and spent time in the Navy too I think. Tell us about yourself,, arthritis? What part of the country are you from? Harv > <howard.aub...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > What part of the country are you from? > Harv Well, which is it then? Is he a professional firefighter or a volunteer? That's where this entire discusion began, after all.. Crossposted to a firefighters group..... Volunteering to help your 'fellowman' is a good thing. Volunteering to play fireman usually ends up as stealing jobs from people. Add to that the undeniable fact that volunteer firefighters just happen to be the most prolific firesetters in the world, and the number one causes of fire related deaths and....well the facts on the matter are easily googled by anyone who cares.... > Well, which is it then? Is he a professional firefighter or a > volunteer? Many communities only have volunteer firefighters. I grew up on Long Island and in Suffolk County there were no paid firefighters. They were all volunteers. And they went through a LOT of training. > Volunteering > to play fireman usually ends up as stealing jobs from people. Add to > that the undeniable fact that volunteer firefighters just happen to be > the most prolific firesetters in the world, and the number one causes > of fire related deaths and....well the facts on the matter are easily > googled by anyone who cares.... That is the most awful generalization. I know a LOT of volunteer firefighters who leave their beds in the middle of the night to go fight fires. Many times they are just getting back home when they have to get up for work, and have to go to their jobs on only a couple hours of sleep. In their communities, they are not stealing jobs as there is no such thing as a paid firefighter. > howard.aub...@gmail.com wrote: > > Well, which is it then? Is he a professional firefighter or a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > That is the most awful generalization. But, unfortunately it happens to be truthful... Just google up 'volunteer firefighters and arson' and get back to me, OK? > I know a LOT of volunteer firefighters who leave their beds in the > middle of the night to go fight fires. Many times they are just getting > back home when they have to get up for work, and have to go to their > jobs on only a couple hours of sleep. In their communities, they are not > stealing jobs as there is no such thing as a paid firefighter. Really? There is no such thing as a paid firefighter? Goodness, I need to give a few million dollars back to my City, pardon me, I'll be right back... I'm back now, turns out you're an idiot... My gawd, you;ve certainly done your best to tell all the FDNY members at ground zero that they didn't exist, haven't you? Most of the volunteers you're talking about would run out at a hearts beat to light up your own house... Just for the simple thrill of showing up while it was burning... Do a little google search, OK? Enter 'volunteer firefighter arson." Get back to us after that, OK??? Carole is far from being an idiot. just because some may have did that doesn't mean all do. So who is the idiot. Dah So does that make every politician bad because some are. Does that make every actor a drunk driver because some are. Man, dream on. The volunteer firemen I knew almost lost their lives for people, I am sure they would sit the fire and then run in to save people. We had a family that all but the father died in there and alot of those firemen went to the hospital because they kept trying to get to them. Just because a few are bad does not make them all bad. Besides that I just heard on the news the other night that there were a few paid firemen that are being charged with arson. So then that must have made you an arson person too. If we are going to classify all volunteers to be then we might as well classify all paid firemen to be too. Right in your way of thinking anyways. SignatureLove and Hugs to all Jo the squirrely one >> > Well, which is it then? Is he a professional firefighter or a >> > volunteer? [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Get back to us after that, OK??? > Carole is far from being an idiot. Well, she can take few classes and work on it then... She's verrrry close!!! > just because some may have did that doesn't mean all do. > So who is the idiot. Dah I'm guessing you are. Statistics have proven for years that volunteer firefighters are the biggest firesetters in the world. Google it up and see for yourself.... > So does that make every politician bad because some are. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > all but the father died in there and alot of those firemen went to the > hospital because they kept trying to get to them. Were they very fat by any chance? Those tend to be the firefighters that get hurt so easily, the fat out of shape people. In real departments you have to take physical agility tests a few times a year to keep your job. Did they have to meet fitness standards? The ones that do rarely get hurt on the job, I'm just curious... Your story is really sad, 3 or 4 professional guys probably would have gotten them all out alive,,,It's so sad that our society allows people with no experience or skills to play fireman, one of the most serious jobs out there... > Just because a few are bad does not make them all bad. > > Besides that I just heard on the news the other night that there were a few > paid firemen that are being charged with arson. Got a link for that? Didn't think so.. : -} Professional firefighters setting fires is almost unheard of...In the volunteer community it's a way of life..... Just provide a link to verify your claim about professional firefighters setting fires and we'll go from there, OK? Yeah I did do some googling and by the way I won't be responding, because I can see what a trouble maker you are. So many of your messages are nothing but putting people down. Thanks for reminding me to google. Backfired on you though. So you won't get any more comments from me. You are so full of it when you are talking about voluteer firemen. That is what the firemen were until someone decided that they needed to be paid for it and make a career out of it instead of doing it for saving peoples lives. Now you do it for the money. SignatureLove and Hugs to all Jo the squirrely one >> Carole is far from being an idiot. > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > Just provide a link to verify your claim about professional > firefighters setting fires and we'll go from there, OK? > Yeah I did do some googling and by the way I won't be responding, because I > can see That I lost.... Thanks for playing though.... Jo, thank you for reminding me that this is a troll, well that is not the name I would use after googling him, but I am not going to waste any more time on him. I will go back to being supportive of those that need it. I kill filed this idiot there is no use of any of us responding to him, he wouldn't get it anyways. SignatureLove and Hugs to all Jo the squirrely one > Do a little google search, OK? Enter 'volunteer firefighter arson." > > Get back to us after that, OK??? OK Howard,,,, You have shown us that you can use your computer to search Google. To me,,,, that means you are also smart enough to see that you are posting in a support group for arthritis. Let me be the first to thank you for adding stress to the lives of people that post here all the time. Again to me, that makes you a callous, mean spirited person that has not adjusted to being retired. There are crazy people in every line of work. The news proves that every day but I can turn those basterds off. Chief earned his retirement just like you did but does not carry the hurt in his heart that you do. If I were to choose which of you would be more likely to go set a fire,,,, it would not be Chief. Harv > > Do a little google search, OK? Enter 'volunteer firefighter arson." > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Google. To me,,,, that means you are also smart enough to see that you are > posting in a support group for arthritis. Indeed, thanks to Chiefy for crossposting to 13 different groups. If you have a problem with it, perhaps you should discuss it with him? > Let me be the first to thank you for adding stress to the lives of people > that post here all the time. Again to me, that makes you a callous, mean > spirited person that has not adjusted to being retired. > There are crazy people in every line of work. The news proves that > every day but I can turn those basterds off. But, you obviously can't spell..... Chief earned his > retirement just like you did That's speculative. Did he actually retire from a paid, professional fire department? It doesn't seem to be so. All he needs to do is provide his unions local number, and it can be easily verified. Until then, he's just a liar.. end of story.... If you, by chance had actually fought in a war, would you like when people that hadn't posted about what it was like? Chiefy is lying and insulting every firefighter in America by pretending to be one. He's not and never has been the professional firefighter he's claiming to be. He can post proof here, and I'll be happy to acknowledge it and make my amends.... Until then, he's a lying pile of sh.t and so is everyone supporting him.... but does not carry the hurt in his heart that > you do. If I were to choose which of you would be more likely to go set a > fire,,,, it would not be Chief. > > Harv To howard_aubrey@gmail.com, I believe YOU are just another liar story yourself as well as quite the irritating troll. Why don't you be a good little liar troll and crawl back from where you came from. Sheesh, if you were truly a professional, as Chief IS, then you would be a much more compassionate and concerned individual, rather than a bigot who does nothing but bash others!!! Maligning others with your prejudices and bigotry gets you no where here. Just raises more questions as to your real reason to knock others. Most bullies, like yourself, bully others because they are trying to hide that which makes them so insecure! Sorry you obviously have HUGE amounts of insecurities. . . . . . > To howard_aub...@gmail.com, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > . > . Chiefy crossposted to some firefighters groups that he is, in fact, a retired Fire Chief from a 'Big City Career Fire Department'. I find his claim to be most likely a lie. He can easily prove it, but he has chosen not to, which only supports my feelings on the matter. There can certainly be no one alive with more insecurities than a person who claims to be something he actually isn't. I can prove my record as a career firefighter, Chiefy needs to do so himself.... It's up to him, if he really was a proud professional firefighter he should have nothing to hide. If not, he's a sad, pathetic liar wannabe... Defending such a person is a gross insult to all the firefighters who have given their lives in the line of duty, particularly on 9/11. Was he ever an actual paid professional firefighter as he's claimed? I doubt it, and if not he's certainly insulting the actual persons who were. It's truly pathetic that someone would lie about such a thing and even worse that people would come to his defense. If he's telling the truth my hat goes off to him, if not he's a pile of sh.t and a disgrace to the memories of all the true firefighters in the world. Anyone with a problem with this can kiss my a.s.... >Anyone with a problem with this can kiss my a.s.... <puckering up> S M A C K ! There you go, sweets. :-) howard.aubrey is now blocked from my computer! My blood pressure was getting too high! Gwen >>Anyone with a problem with this can kiss my a.s.... > > <puckering up> S M A C K ! > > There you go, sweets. :-) Don't blame you Gwen, that is what I did after I posted the last post to this thread. After reading what he has been saying on other groups too, I figured I could spend my time more wisely on support instead of trying to explain something to someone that isn't going to have a clue. SignatureLove and Hugs to all Jo the squirrely one > howard.aubrey is now blocked from my computer! > My blood pressure was getting too high! > Gwen > Don't blame you Gwen, that is what I did after I posted the last post to > this thread. After reading what he has been saying on other groups too, I > figured I could spend my time more wisely on support instead of trying to > explain something to someone that isn't going to have a clue. Mine too. Enough is enough. What a jerk! > On 13 May 2007 11:26:41 -0700, "howard.aub...@gmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > There you go, sweets. :-) Thank You!!! But use a little less tongue the next time, OK? I'm happily married! >> On 13 May 2007 11:26:41 -0700, "howard.aub...@gmail.com" >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I'm happily married! But is your wife? <howard.aubrey@gmail.com> wrote in message > Chiefy crossposted to some firefighters groups that he is, in fact, a > retired Fire Chief from a 'Big City Career Fire Department'. I find > his claim to be most likely a lie. He can easily prove it, but he > has chosen not to, which only supports my feelings on the matter. Do you really think at this point anyone here give a fig what your feeling are on this matter or any other? Most of us know and love Joe. This is an arthritis support group. He has no need what so ever to defend himself here. Or anywhere else for that matter. Jo > <howard.aub...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Do you really think at this point anyone here give a fig what your feeling > are on this matter or any other? Indeed, every professional firefighter in the Country, no doubt... Ya know any?? > Most of us know and love Joe. This is an arthritis support group. He has > no need what so ever to defend himself here. Hmm, maybe not here in an arthritis support group, but certainly in the firefighter groups he felt the need to crosspost to. No one is denying him the right to post anything, but if he wants to tell people he is a former career firefighter that has retired, it only stands to reason that he should be willing to verify it. Unless he happens to be ashamed of it, that is. I can't think of any reason for that, can you? He has claimed to be a retired career firefighter, we just want him to verify it, OK? Lying about career affiliations is a felony, in case you didn't know....Can he cough up some proof to back his claim? Or is that just a little too deep for you? Or anywhere else for that > matter. > > Jo Thanks for sharing!!!! >> <howard.aub...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > He has claimed to be a retired career firefighter, we just want him to > verify it, OK? Now you are using the royal "we"? I know the queen was in the news, but really. > <howard.aub...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Now you are using the royal "we"? Indeed. Firefighters are a proud lot. We'd like to know if Chiefy is really retired from a big city career FD as he 's claimed. Shouldn't be hard to prove.... Do you hate firefighters???? If not, we would sure like to know why you have such an affinity for protecting people who malign them? I'm proud of my chosen profession, maybe Chief should be also? He's either telling the truth or he isn't... > I know the queen was in the news, but really. ANY true firefighter would be horrified to associate themselves with a lying spamming, stalker, like the likes of you! You bring dishoner to all who associate with you and your severe mental health issues. If you were truly who you say you are, you wouldn't be so hell bent on stalking and harassing and flooding support groups with your harassment and stalking. You are one very seriously dangerous person and no one in any group should disclose any information to you---you are far too dangerous and far to mentally insecure. A TRUE firefighter, like Chief, is someone who wishes to help others, who is compassionate and caring about their fellow human being. You come no where close to fitting that description. Instead, you are one that should be reported to the aurthorities and a very seriously deranged individual who has strongly exhibited stalking tendencies, harassment, and quite a bit of paranoia as well. GET SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP!!! > ANY true firefighter would be horrified to associate themselves with a > lying spamming, stalker, like the likes of you! Not likely. More like REAL firefighters would be interested in why Chiefy is so insecure he has to pretend to be one of them... Committing a felony to try and act important, that's just sooo sad... He's claimed to be retired from a big city career fire department, he just needs to provide the name and I'll be more than happy to go away... I guess this group supports liars and wannabes.. Very sad that people feel the need to lie about themself to look important, I thought that usually ended by the third grade. Guess I was wrong and should have searched here... I guess Chiefy always wanted to be a real firefighter and failed and came here to play pretend fireman. Found some stupid people he could fool...He must live a truly pitiful life.... Hey!!! Guess what! I'm a Doctor! I'm a Surgeon! I cured Cancer! I cured arthritis! Same thing....deal with it..... > You bring dishoner to all who associate with you and your severe mental > health issues. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > GET SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP!!! Don't have to deal with it as it isn't my problem! You CLAIM that Chief has said these things yet there isn't any proof. Makes no difference anyways as Chief is wise to avoid a psychopath such as yourself. Any professional, whether it be police, fire, etc would not want to be associated with the likes of a dangerous stalker as yourself. They would lock up a psychotic person such as yourself. You are far far too dangerous to be in the general population! No matter, you have been reported to your ISP's as well as to the authorities as being a stalker who is harassing others as well as quite possibly a most dangerous person that needs to be looked into and taken off the streets before you seriously hurt or kill someone! A very loose canon for sure!!! > Don't have to deal with it as it isn't my problem! > > You CLAIM that Chief has said these things yet there isn't any proof. Jeez, how many times does this have to posted for you to understand it??? http://groups.google.com/group/alt.firefighters/msg/f22cf5e39bbd6b07?dmode=sourc e&hl=en > Makes no difference Yeah it does, big time. a.sholes like Chiefy pretending they were actual paid professional firefighters has led to hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuits. I imagine you don't care because you've never had a job??The guy is a lying piece of sh.t and so is anyone that defends him... End of story... I can't believe I'm actually running into people who think it's OK for someone to grossly lie about themself to look important. The man is a liar. It's been proven... Defending him makes you an accomplice.... >> Don't have to deal with it as it isn't my problem! >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > The man is a liar. It's been proven... Defending him makes you an > accomplice.... Nothing about arthritis or the support for arthritis in your post,,, it has been reported. Harv Thank you for causing this person to post more posts that are being reported but a real help would be to join those that are reporting his posts in this newsgroup..... If this SOB is causing your blood pressure to go up,,,,, it might make him happy but the people that worry about you wish that you would-------just stop--- Chief is smart enough to do that,,, maybe we can learn from him. Harv > Don't have to deal with it as it isn't my problem! > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > off the streets before you seriously hurt or kill someone! A very > loose canon for sure!!! >I guess this group supports liars and wannabes.. Very sad that >people feel the need to lie about themself to look important, Since you are so quick to comment on how people write and spell, I know you won't object if I point out the above sentence should have read "people feel the need to lie about *themselves*........" Since you're such a puritan I knew you wouldn't mind if I corrected you. Now go away. > On 14 May 2007 07:44:13 -0700, "howard.aub...@gmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Now go away. Not if it's not plural, but thanks for playing anyway.... I'll go away as soon as you get Chiefy to retract his false claim that he is a retired career fire chief, OK? Until then, get used to seeing me around, OK? This post has been reported. Harv >> ANY true firefighter would be horrified to associate themselves with a >> lying spamming, stalker, like the likes of you! [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> >> GET SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP!!! > Chiefy crossposted to some firefighters groups that he is, in fact, a > retired Fire Chief from a 'Big City Career Fire Department'. I find > his claim to be most likely a lie. That is in your own mind Howard. You "most likely" is full of your own mental problems. He can easily prove it, but he > has chosen not to, which only supports my feelings on the matter. Please let me say that he does not have a dam thing to prove here and has been a great poster of good information about arthritis. > There can certainly be no one alive with more insecurities than a > person who claims to be something he actually isn't. Let me say again, he only isn't in your own mind and has nothing to prove with the people in this newsgroup while you do and have chosen to not answer straight questions put to you here. I can prove my > record as a career firefighter, Chiefy needs to do so himself.... Not to the likes of you. > It's up to him, if he really was a proud professional firefighter he > should have nothing to hide. If not, he's a sad, pathetic liar [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Anyone with a problem with this can kiss my a.s.... I for one am tired of your mental problems and foul words. You need to stop posting here where people treat people with arthritis problems with respect. Let me promise you that every argumenitive post you have made here will sent you your ISP with a request to pull your severice. The more you post the better the case. Keep it up,,, SOB. Harv > > Chiefy crossposted to some firefighters groups that he is, in fact, a > > retired Fire Chief from a 'Big City Career Fire Department'. I find > > his claim to be most likely a lie. > > That is in your own mind Howard. You "most likely" is full of your own > mental problems. If I had a third grader that had your writing skills, I'd spank their a.s just on principal ! > He can easily prove it, but he > > > has chosen not to, which only supports my feelings on the matter. > > Please let me say that he does not have a dam thing to prove here and has > been a great poster of good information about arthritis. Actually, you're quite ignorant about the subject at hand. It's quite wonderful that he knows something about arthritis, it really is, but his knowledge about firefighting is questionable at best. Dangerously ignorant would be the most accurate assessment I can come up with in small words you might actually be able to comprehend....The kind of ignorance that leads to people dying in fires all the time.... He just needs to prove his claim that he is a retired 'Big City' Fire Chief, OK? It's really that easy. He either was or he wasn't. I'm guessing it was the latter, but he can prove me wrong here...If not, I really can't think of a worse lie other than claiming you were involved in a military conflict, which happens to be a felony... But lets give the guy a chance, OK? Chief, what career FD did you retire from? It really is an easy question to answer, I'll go away after you do, OK? > > There can certainly be no one alive with more insecurities than a > > person who claims to be something he actually isn't. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > here will sent you your ISP with a request to pull your severice. The more > you post the better the case. Keep it up,,, SOB. Harv, if I had a dog as stupid as you, I'd put it down....you are, without any doubt, the dumbest human being alive.... Chiefy is a lying a.shole who has never been a professional firefighter for one second of his life, and you are, without any doubt, the dumbest human being to ever breath... You deserve whatever pain you have....It's proof that god exists.... > Harv Kiss your own a.s mister liar troll. Why does it concern YOU so much? Is it because you are one of the pathetic attention seekers that you speak of? I believe you are since you have taken to flooding multiple news groups with multiple harassing spam posts! Spam is illegal you know and what you are doing is not only spam but also gross harassment and stalking---also illegal. We who actually know Chief know for a fact that he is who he claims. If I were cheif I wouldn't give you the time of day either, since you are clearly a person who has some very deep seated mental health issues that need to be addressed by a professional. Not the type of person to disclose -any- information to as you very well might be and by your actions appear to be a stalker and perhaps worse such as a killer for the amount of energy you have put into pursuing a single person. You have now established yourself as someone that ALL need to be wary of and concerned about. Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS...... > Kiss your own a.s mister liar troll. > > Why does it concern YOU so much? Is it because you are one of the > pathetic attention seekers that you speak of? I believe you are since > you have taken to flooding multiple news groups with multiple harassing > spam posts! > > Spam is illegal you know and what you are doing is not only spam but > also gross harassment and stalking---also illegal. Hmm, like Chiefy has done in all the firefighter groups? How interesting that you have no problem with that.. : -] You're a hypocrite, plus you spell at a third grade level.... > We who actually know Chief know for a fact that he is who he claims. > > If I were cheif If you could spell, maybe I'd support your welfare checks? But you can't so you're just a pathetic drain on society. Just like Chiefy is. A liar and an a.shole... Why do you hate firefighters so much? Did a member of your family try to be one and fail miserably? I wouldn't give you the time of day either, since you > are clearly a person who has some very deep seated mental health issues LOL! Compared to someone who lies about being a firefighter when they aren't? That's really rich, you should go into writing for Comedy Central! Chiefy claimed to be a retired career firefighter. He's lying. You support him. You're both piles of dogshit for it. Prove me wrong honey, I'll wait.... > that need to be addressed by a professional. Not the type of person to > disclose -any- information to as you very well might be and by your [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Donna G. You're an idiot. The man lied about being a firefighter and spit on the graves of all who actually were. You defend him. That makes you an equal piece of lying sh.t. Are all persons with arthritis chronic liars as well? > . > . > . > ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call > them FRIENDS...... I just want to remind you that your posts here are being reported to you internet servers. Keep it up Howard Harv >> Kiss your own a.s mister liar troll. >> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >> ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call >> them FRIENDS...... > I just want to remind you that your posts here are being reported to you > internet servers. Keep it up Howard As are yours Harv. And the ones you keep sending to my young son you perverted a.shole... Are you registered? > Harv > [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > >> ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call > >> them FRIENDS...... >> I just want to remind you that your posts here are being reported to you >> internet servers. Keep it up Howard [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Are you registered? That does not work with me. I am an established person in my community and would have not problem proving who and what you are and why you deal in lies and abuse. Harv > <howard.aub...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > and abuse. > Harv Your repeated emails to me and my son have now been reported to your ISP. BTW, anyone who speaks like you do could never possibly be 'established' anywhere. You're an idiot.... Just acknowledge that chiefy is a lying sack of sh.t and you'll never have to deal with me again... > <howard.aub...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > That does not work with me. I am an established person in my community and > would have not problem4 Jeez, you couldn't pay someone to talk so stupidly.... You're a total moron..... Harv.... Please do the world a favor and kill yourself ASAP... proving who and what you are and why you deal in lies > and abuse. > Harv howard.aubrey@gmail.com dribbled down his chin: > Chiefy crossposted to some firefighters groups that he is, in fact, a > retired Fire Chief from a 'Big City Career Fire Department'. I find > his claim to be most likely a lie. He can easily prove it, but he > has chosen not to, which only supports my feelings on the matter. Or maybe he doesn't give a rat's a.s what you think. > Defending such a person is a gross insult to all the > firefighters who have given their lives in the line of duty, > particularly on 9/11. News flash - those who died on 9/11 were only doing their jobs. They knew what their job was when they signed on. And their lives, though admittedly a great loss to their families, were no different from the loss of firepersons who lose their lives every day in the line of service. The only difference is that the families of those who lost their lives on 9/11 were given large cash benefits. Those who lost their lives in the days before and after in an ordinary house fire, got nothing like it. > howard.aub...@gmail.com dribbled down his chin: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Or maybe he doesn't give a rat's a.s what you think. Then maybe he shouldn't have started posting to firefighters groups... Or maybe you shouldn't have started posting to adult groups??? Is there anyone where you live that has an IQ into double digits??? You're an a.shole Carole... Have a nice day.... > Is there anyone where you live that has an IQ into double digits??? I wouldn't know...mine is in triple digits. > You're an a.shole Carole... Have a nice day.... Takes one to know one, dearie... > howard.aub...@gmail.com dribbled down his chin: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > lives in the days before and after in an ordinary house fire, got > nothing like it. IDIOT ALERT!!1 The cash payment for firefighters who died in the line of duty was exactly the same for those on 9/11 as any other day in history. It's been $100.000 for a line of duty death since 1969 you f.cking idiot. You're a complete idiot and troll, Carole. And a pile of steaming sh.t, I might add... Chiefy has never been an actual firefighter though, so he will never be eligible for this payment...He's a lying sack of sh.t just like you are.... Carole is not stupid, but I'm wondering about your condition. She said that some communities only have volunteer firefighters. How can you say that they are taking jobs from somebody else, when there is no somebody else to take a job from? Gwen >> howard.aub...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Well, which is it then? Is he a professional firefighter or a [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Get back to us after that, OK??? > Carole is not stupid, but I'm wondering about your condition. She said that > some communities only have volunteer firefighters. How can you say that they > are taking jobs from somebody else, when there is no somebody else to take a > job from? > Gwen Thanks, Gwen. That was my point exactly. I grew up in Hungtington, NY and there was no such thing as a paid fire department there or in any other town in Suffolk County. > Carole is not stupid, but I'm wondering about your condition. She said that > some communities only have volunteer firefighters. How can you say that they > are taking jobs from somebody else, when there is no somebody else to take a > job from? > Gwen Thanks, Gwen. That was my point exactly. I grew up in Huntington, NY and there was no such thing as a paid fire department there or in any other town in Suffolk County. > Really? There is no such thing as a paid firefighter? I SAID "NOT IN THOSE COMMUNITIES", a.shole! DON'T TURN AROUND WHAT OTHERS ARE SAYING TO YOUR OWN BENEFIT. > I'm back now, turns out you're an idiot... My gawd, you;ve certainly > done your best to tell all the FDNY members at ground zero that they > didn't exist, haven't you? HONEY, I WAS AT GROUND ZERO TOO. LOST A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT DAY. SO DON'T GO SHOVELING THAT 9/11 CRAP AT ME. I LIVED THROUGH THAT DAY IN A SCHOOL BUILDING WITH OVER 400 CHILDREN WHO DIDN'T KNOW IF THEIR PARENTS WERE DEAD OR ALIVE. > Most of the volunteers you're talking about would run out at a hearts > beat to light up your own house... Just for the simple thrill of > showing up while it was burning... GO GOOGLE "JERK" I'M SURE THE IMAGE THERE WILL BE A PHOTO OF YOU! It seems to me I heard somewhere that howard.aubrey@gmail.com wrote in article <1178914511.283007.301310@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>: >> <howard.aub...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1178885498.039991.72980@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> >> Are you a fireman too, HJA? >> > Just retired after 26 years. I'm still kind of curious though, I've >> > never run into a professional firefighter that collected patches. >> > That's usually the kind of thing that volunteers go for. I didn't know firefighters were judged by their hobbies and interests. That must make for a very constricted lifestyle to avoid being misunderstood. >> He is the type of person that would volunteer to help his fellowman and >> spent time in the Navy too I think. Tell us about yourself,, arthritis? >> What part of the country are you from? >Well, which is it then? Is he a professional firefighter or a >volunteer? Reading problem? Or don't firefighters volunteer to help their fellowman when they're off duty, or at least have the desire if no the time to do so? >Volunteering to help your 'fellowman' is a good thing. Volunteering >to play fireman usually ends up as stealing jobs from people. Add to >that the undeniable fact that volunteer firefighters just happen to be >the most prolific firesetters in the world, and the number one causes >of fire related deaths and....well the facts on the matter are easily >googled by anyone who cares.... I think you've crossed the line now, maybe because you're reading things that haven't been written in Harv's messages. Plenty of full-time firefighters also get in the news as firebugs. You may have heard of the Los Angeles County firefighter captain, arson investigator, who set a string of commercial fires through central California a few years ago, some resulting in deaths. Even if I agree that amateurs set fires (more than professionals, arguably) you seem to have made up your mind that Chief is an imposter of some kind, or at least a non-professional. All we have is your unsupported word that you are not. Where can we find your credentials on record? And how is Chief stealing jobs from anybody in your area, no matter what his qualifications may be? Maybe it's the pain of your arthritis at work here, not your basic nature. And if so you're in the right place; the group was formed for mutual support (public safety employees understand that concept, don't they?) for sufferers of arthritic diseases, not to argue over their professional lives. SignatureDon Kirkman >Volunteering to help your 'fellowman' is a good thing. Volunteering >to play fireman usually ends up as stealing jobs from people. Add to >that the undeniable fact that volunteer firefighters just happen to be >the most prolific firesetters in the world, and the number one causes >of fire related deaths and....well the facts on the matter are easily >googled by anyone who cares.... What an awful thing to say. In the small community in which I grew up we only have volunteer firemen. They are extremely well trained, have updates all the time, go to accidents as the nearest ambulance is a good 20-30 minutes away, etc. etc. They save lives. Never underestimate a volunteer. Volunteers are the backbone of a nation. I agree here with the others too. I used to work for the Ladies auxillary at a fire department where all the firemen were voluteers. They did not get paid anything for fighting these terrible fires. They did not get compansated for having to go to the hospital for treatment, they did this all out of the kindness of their hearts to save others lives. That was a terrible thing to say. You have no clue to how many voluteer firemen are out there not taking the jobs of others but saving lives. Get it. SignatureLove and Hugs to all Jo the squirrely one , "howard.aubrey@gmail.com" > >>Volunteering to help your 'fellowman' is a good thing. Volunteering [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > save lives. Never underestimate a volunteer. Volunteers are the > backbone of a nation. >> <howard.aub...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > of fire related deaths and....well the facts on the matter are easily > googled by anyone who cares.... Who on earth stepped on your paws? Joe has a new granddaughter. Its a wonderful thing. A blessing. Now go away. Jo Thanks for that answer, Harv. Gwen > No,,, he is a real fireman but only at heart now. After many, many years > in the fire department, he was forced to retire due to AS. His [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> HJA > On May 3, 12:42 am, "california_chief" > <Fire_Chief@Jamacha_Junction_FD.ca.us> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > HJA OK everyone. Howard is just a PITA troll, who has already got far more time and attention that he deserves. Seems he does a daily google search of fire, just as someone else does a daily search on i&on. Lets let him go already Well, I'm a bit late with my congratulations, almost missed this, but hurray! Grandkids rock! I'll be posting about my newest any day now. On May 2, 9:42 pm, "california_chief" <Fire_Chief@Jamacha_Junction_FD.ca.us> wrote: > Reagan Alexa Nicholson made her appearance Wednesday at 10:00 EDT in > Florida. > > She weighed 7lbs 6oz, and measured 18-1/4 inches. > > Proud parents are Robert and Maggie Nicholson. >Well, I'm a bit late with my congratulations, almost missed this, but >hurray! Grandkids rock! I'll be posting about my newest any day >now. How many will that make? You know the best thing about grandkids and other people's kids? You get to enjoy them, then if they get cranky you send them home and you don't have to put them through school, usually. I was a surrogate mum to a friend's two boys when they were young, used to make cookies with them and do all the fun stuff, but didn't have to pay the bills. As they got older a classmate obligingly had three kids, twins and a single, and not only did I get to look after the twins in NICU where I was working at the time, but I got to share in their lives too. Neat. Enjoy the new grandchild. Joan Hi, Joan. This will be number six. Grandson number 4. My oldest has three, the next one has one, and my third & middle child will have two. My youngest two haven't started reproducing yet. I do love being grandma, and an eccentric one at that! Gives me something to get up for, but dang! They seem to be in a hurry to grow up... D |
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