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nanny - 23 Apr 2007 06:22 GMT
Hi, all you who have had experience with taking MTX.  Are these symptoms
predictable with that medication:  feeling warm, then chilling, less energy,
skin feels itchy or "creepy-crawly".  My symptoms are much like the ones I
got from Pred, except I'm not taking Pred right now.  But, taking inventory,
these symptoms come pretty close to my weekly dose of MTX.  And, what does
it mean that MTX is also used as a cancer drug, but in lower doses for RA
people.  Does it kill normal cells in the process of slowing down RA?  Sorry
to be so vague, but I'm still trying to sort this all out.  Thanks for any
feedback.  Nanny
Squirrely - 23 Apr 2007 17:14 GMT
Nanny,

I don't do MTX and have those same feelings. I don't know what they mean. I
was feverish, chilly, and had the itching all over. Then it got really bad
in the back area. I kept insisting there had to be rash and Jim kept
checking me and no rash. I was thinking it was some kind of virus. I wasn't
on pred at the time either. So don't know what caused it really. I feel for
you sweetie and just wanted you to know that.

I hope you find out some answers on the MTX stuff.

You hang in there.

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Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one

> Hi, all you who have had experience with taking MTX.  Are these symptoms
> predictable with that medication:  feeling warm, then chilling, less
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> slowing down RA?  Sorry to be so vague, but I'm still trying to sort this
> all out.  Thanks for any feedback.  Nanny
nanny - 24 Apr 2007 04:56 GMT
Thanks, Squirrely.  What's strange is that when I get the "itchies", it's
only my arms - nothing else.  Whatever ;-)  Nanny
> Nanny,
>
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>> of slowing down RA?  Sorry to be so vague, but I'm still trying to sort
>> this all out.  Thanks for any feedback.  Nanny
jofirey - 23 Apr 2007 23:32 GMT
> Hi, all you who have had experience with taking MTX.  Are these symptoms
> predictable with that medication:  feeling warm, then chilling, less
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> slowing down RA?  Sorry to be so vague, but I'm still trying to sort this
> all out.  Thanks for any feedback.  Nanny

OK, I'm not a doctor or a pharmacist, but I've been taking this stuff for a
while.  I usually just feel more tired than usual after I take a dose.  I
forgot to take my shot last night so did it this morning and I want to sleep
all day.  Also have been kind of chilly, but that may be from weaning off
prednisone.  I guess so should the sleepy but it is much worse today.

I also get a headache from the MTX but I can avoid or "cure" that with a
glass of water.  I know I need extra water when I take it but I often
forget.

As for killing cells, I don't think it kills any but it does cut down on
reproduction in some types of cells.  At the high doses used for cancer it
can help to prevent the growth of the blood vessels tumors create to nourish
themselves.  At the much lower doses used for arthritis it cuts down on
inflammation and swelling.

I don't have a problem with nausea from MTX but I take shots.  I have plenty
of nausea from other things.

Overall itchy feeling, I'd be checking with my doctor.

But if it is just a dry skin feeling kind of thing, maybe it is from getting
off prednisone.  Doing without it can cause its own side effects for a
while.

(I'm down to 2mg one day and 3mg the next on prednisone.  Never been on it
for so long before and never took so long to wean back off)

Jo
nanny - 24 Apr 2007 04:58 GMT
Thanks, Jo.  I'll soon be seeing my Rheumy who prescribed MTX for RA, so I
will check out the "itchies" with him.  The same think happens when I would
get TP injections, with cortisone - itchies (only in arms, however) and
everything else I described.  Sounds like it could be allergy-related or
something to do with steroids.  Nanny

>> Hi, all you who have had experience with taking MTX.  Are these symptoms
>> predictable with that medication:  feeling warm, then chilling, less
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>
> Jo
Sharon & Jack - 24 Apr 2007 03:14 GMT
For several years now I've been taking 7.5 mg once a week, (pill form).
I've never noticed anything.
Sharon
nanny - 24 Apr 2007 05:00 GMT
Thanks for responding, Sharon.  Fortunately, I'm on many meds and have never
suffered any allergies from any med.  Only these symptoms occur when I was
on Pred, when I would get steroid shots (TP injections) and now MTX.
Perhaps there's a connecting factor in those 3 things.  Nanny
> For several years now I've been taking 7.5 mg once a week, (pill form).
> I've never noticed anything.
> Sharon
Gloria - 25 Apr 2007 05:45 GMT
I get all the things you described and as soon as you find out what it is,
let me know! BTW, I don't take MTX, only Enbrel.

Gloria

> Hi, all you who have had experience with taking MTX.  Are these symptoms
> predictable with that medication:  feeling warm, then chilling, less
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> slowing down RA?  Sorry to be so vague, but I'm still trying to sort this
> all out.  Thanks for any feedback.  Nanny
nanny - 27 Apr 2007 03:09 GMT
I'll do that.  BTW, I'm named Gloria as well; Nanny is just the name I post
by ;-)  Nanny
>I get all the things you described and as soon as you find out what it is,
>let me know! BTW, I don't take MTX, only Enbrel.
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>> of slowing down RA?  Sorry to be so vague, but I'm still trying to sort
>> this all out.  Thanks for any feedback.  Nanny
california_chief - 27 Apr 2007 05:18 GMT
>  BTW, I'm named Gloria as well; Nanny is just the name I post  by ;-)
Nanny

Well, that makes 3.  We'll have to begin handing out numbers.
     Gloria 1
     Gloria 2
     Gloria 3   <VBG>

... Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the bitstream.
nanny - 27 Apr 2007 05:46 GMT
LOL!  Which number do you want to be?  Then, if we take numbers, how do we
keep from getting mixed up by the other members?  I never thought the name
Gloria would show up that much ;-)  Nanny

>>  BTW, I'm named Gloria as well; Nanny is just the name I post  by ;-)
> Nanny
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>
> ... Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the bitstream.
Squirrely - 27 Apr 2007 08:00 GMT
No number for you. You will always be my Nanny Glo. ;-)

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> LOL!  Which number do you want to be?  Then, if we take numbers, how do we
> keep from getting mixed up by the other members?  I never thought the name
> Gloria would show up that much ;-)  Nanny
Harvey R. Stone - 27 Apr 2007 13:47 GMT
> No number for you. You will always be my Nanny Glo. ;-)

are my thoughts too.
Harv
nanny - 28 Apr 2007 01:39 GMT
Ahhhhhh, how sweet ;-)  Nanny Glo
> No number for you. You will always be my Nanny Glo. ;-)
>
>> LOL!  Which number do you want to be?  Then, if we take numbers, how do
>> we keep from getting mixed up by the other members?  I never thought the
>> name Gloria would show up that much ;-)  Nanny
Gloria - 01 May 2007 06:43 GMT
Well, I'm gonna claim # 1.  I was the first Gloria to show up here. Been
around here more than 10 years. I've been MIA a lot in the past 2-3 years,
but I always come back home to my 'Family' on the net, ASA. I moved to
Seattle and lived next door to a Gloria, then moved back to Alabama and
guess what? Got a new next door neighbor here while I was gone and her name
is Gloria.

Gloria

> LOL!  Which number do you want to be?  Then, if we take numbers, how do we
> keep from getting mixed up by the other members?  I never thought the name
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>>
>> ... Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the bitstream.
Harvey R. Stone - 01 May 2007 13:05 GMT
> Well, I'm gonna claim # 1.  I was the first Gloria to show up here. Been
> around here more than 10 years. I've been MIA a lot in the past 2-3 years,
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>
> Gloria

Yes,,, it was your courage to try a new unproven product called Enbrel that
made me try it a few years later and like you,,,, its still good for me too.
Harv
Gloria - 02 May 2007 04:10 GMT
Harve, I borrowed from your courage more than once.

Gloria

>> Well, I'm gonna claim # 1.  I was the first Gloria to show up here. Been
>> around here more than 10 years. I've been MIA a lot in the past 2-3
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> me too.
> Harv
nanny - 02 May 2007 05:48 GMT
Okay, you deserve to be Gloria #1, as you've been on ASA longer than I.
I'll take #2, if it's still open ;-)  Nanny
> Well, I'm gonna claim # 1.  I was the first Gloria to show up here. Been
> around here more than 10 years. I've been MIA a lot in the past 2-3 years,
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>>>
>>> ... Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the bitstream.
Harvey R. Stone - 27 Apr 2007 13:46 GMT
>>  BTW, I'm named Gloria as well; Nanny is just the name I post  by ;-)
> Nanny
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>      Gloria 2
>      Gloria 3   <VBG>

and a couple of Kates and, an, aaah well.
Harv
Gloria - 01 May 2007 06:35 GMT
Nice to meet you, Gloria> What a lovely name!

Gloria

> I'll do that.  BTW, I'm named Gloria as well; Nanny is just the name I
> post by ;-)  Nanny
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>>> of slowing down RA?  Sorry to be so vague, but I'm still trying to sort
>>> this all out.  Thanks for any feedback.  Nanny
nanny - 02 May 2007 05:47 GMT
> Nice to meet you, Gloria> What a lovely name!
>
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>>>> vague, but I'm still trying to sort this all out.  Thanks for any
>>>> feedback.  Nanny
Edward - 02 May 2007 15:39 GMT
Geez,
I am going to check my blood sugar.

Hello nanny
Edward
>> Nice to meet you, Gloria> What a lovely name!
>>
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>>>>> vague, but I'm still trying to sort this all out.  Thanks for any
>>>>> feedback.  Nanny
Harvey R. Stone - 02 May 2007 23:19 GMT
> Geez,
> I am going to check my blood sugar.
>
> Hello nanny
> Edward

Remember if you take prednisone or have had a steroid shot,,,, it will be
high.
Harv
 
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