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Still's disease and iron overload

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ironjustice - 14 Apr 2007 19:21 GMT
Seems .. hyperferritinemia .. does NOT .. "evidence inflammation" ..

Increased ferritin / hyperferritinemia has been used and IS used to
assess .. "infammatory states" .. and this marker has been used to
avoid .. iron depletion therapy .. BUT .. now .. it seems it has very
little .. use .. AS .. an inflammatory .. marker ..

Thereby effectively allowing the assessment of INCREASED iron to be
assessed BY .. iron / ferritin .. ALONE ..

Therefore .. since Still's disease USES .. hyperferritinemia TO ..
diagnose .. disease states .. it has NOW been rendered veritably
USELESS .. and thusly ruling IN .. iron OVERLOAD .. in .. Juvenile
Rheumatoid Arthritis ..

Whoda .. thunk ..

<<snip>>
effect of the inflammatory status factor on ferritin level was very
weak.
<<snip>>

Clin Biochem. 2007 Mar;40(5-6):359-64. Epub 2007 Jan 5.  Links
Evaluation of a model of latent pathologic factors in relation to
serum ferritin elevation.Yamanishi H, Kimura S, Hata N, Iyama S,
Kanakura Y, Iwatani Y.
Laboratory for Clinical Investigation, Osaka University Hospital,
2-15
Yamadaoka, Suita, Osaka 565-0871, Japan. yam...@hp-lab.med.osaka-
u.ac.jp

OBJECTIVES: Serum ferritin increases in various disorders and
clinical
conditions. However, causal associations between the serum ferritin
level and clinical factors that influence serum ferritin level are
not
well characterized. We report a model that quantitatively analyzes
the
causal relations between the serum ferritin level and clinical
factors. DESIGN AND METHODS: We analyzed the ferritin level and other
laboratory data in the sera of 274 patients. Structural equation
modeling was used to verify causal relations and the adequacy of
latent factors. RESULTS: Three factors representing clinical status
were identified: cell damage, hepatic function, and inflammation.
Serum iron (SI) had the strongest effect on serum ferritin elevation.
The effect of the cell damage factor on serum ferritin indicated cell
destruction, and that of the hepatic function factor represented
decreased serum ferritin clearance. The cell damage factor also
indirectly increased the ferritin level via SI or the hepatic
function
factor. The total effect of the inflammatory status factor on
ferritin
level was very weak. CONCLUSIONS: These causal relations may explain
the mechanism of serum ferritin level elevation in various clinical
conditions.

PMID: 17292875 [PubMed - in process]

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ironjustice - 14 Apr 2007 19:28 GMT
Sooo .. this study makes sense .. NOW .. since hyperferritinemia
EXISTS .. in juvenile rheumatoid arthritis .. and hyperferritinemia
has ALWAYS been used .. to say .. "there is no iron in these kids" ..
when in fact .. PAIN .. was **never used** AS a .. marker ..
obviously.

Sort of how they fail to use .. DB's .. as a .. marker ..

EXPERIMENTAL BIOLOGY UPDATE: Arthritic kids' iron supplements may
hasten joint
deterioration

By Diana Swift

WWASHINGTON, D.C. - The iron supplements that many arthritic children
take to
combat concomitant anemia may be hastening the deterioration of their
joints,
Houston researchers say.

Led by biologist Roman Shypailo of the Children's Nutrition Research
Centre at
Baylor College of Medicine, a Texas team looked at eight children
being treated
for juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. The patients, aged five to 15
years,
received an intravenous radioactive tracer dose of iron (0.03
microsievert).
Iron activity in affected joints was monitored on a position/energy-
sensitive
gamma counter, while a second machine monitored whole-body iron
retention. Iron
deposition was measured two hours post-infusion and again at days
seven, 14, 28
and 56.

Anemic
"We found that iron excessively accumulates in arthritic joints and
probably
contributes to the chronic damage," said Shypailo. "That puts you
between a
rock and a hard place because many of these arthritic kids are anemic
and need
iron supplements, which may worsen the disease."

The study found a high level of agreement between the joint data and
the
whole-body data, with a greater than 90% retention rate of the infused
iron
both in joints and systemically. Furthermore, six of eight patients
showed
increased uptake at the affected joints: 165% over the first 30 days
compared
with initial uptake at two hours.

The next step, he says, is to see if there is excessive deposition of
dietary
iron in arthritic joints.

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Donna G. - 14 Apr 2007 21:24 GMT
BEWARE!!!

Tom is one of our regular trolls who is also a very sick individual. He
believes that iron overload is the cause of ALL disease processes.

He often posts very obscure articles and long rants filled with
obscenities when challenged.

This individual and his so called "advice" can be extremely dangerous.
So please be very careful in taking anything he says seriously.

His suggestions can bring great harm to an individual, including
possible death. He is well known as a very dangerous pest on hundreds of
ng.

Please always check with your physican before taking any advice from
someone like the likes of Tom/Iron Justice
.


Donna G.
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.
.
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them FRIENDS......
ironjustice - 14 Apr 2007 22:32 GMT
>>On Apr 14, 1:24 pm, DKGBee...@webtv.net (Donna G.) wrote:
<<

YOU .. have Still's disease .. too .. ?

Jeez ..

You must be in .. pain .. alot .. then ..

Is that .. painful ..?

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Donna G. - 14 Apr 2007 22:59 GMT
BEWARE!!!

Tom is one of our regular trolls who is also a very sick individual. He
believes that iron overload is the cause of ALL disease processes.

He often posts very obscure articles and long rants filled with
obscenities when challenged.

This individual and his so called "advice" can be extremely dangerous.
So please be very careful in taking anything he says seriously.

His suggestions can bring great harm to an individual, including
possible death. He is well known as a very dangerous pest on hundreds of
ng.

Please always check with your physican before taking any advice from
someone like the likes of Tom/Iron Justice

.

Donna G.
.
.
.
ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call
them FRIENDS......
Kumar - 08 May 2007 05:26 GMT
> Sooo .. this study makes sense .. NOW .. since hyperferritinemia
> EXISTS .. in juvenile rheumatoid arthritis .. and hyperferritinemia
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>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

How iron levls are related to blood flow variations and supply to
tissues?
 
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