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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / April 2007

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Knee Injury

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Derek Lawler - 08 Apr 2007 21:43 GMT
Three weeks ago two large dogs playing in a friend's yard ran full tilt into
my right knee, knocking me down and causing intense pain to the leg and knee
joint.  When I finally got a referral to see an orthopedist (after two
weeks) he seemed to make light of it and said I was halfway healed already,
even though he found a hairline crack in the proximal tibia that the
radiologist had missed. I had thought he would set me up for an arthroscopy
to see how much damage there was inside the joint but he made an appt to see
me in a month.
I have been taking ibuprofin 600mg and propoxyphene w/ APAP for the pain,
which seems to persist in distracting me.  I had thought the pain would be
gone after a couple of weeks so I am wondering if anyone here has had a
similar experience and how long I should have to keep taking pain meds.  I
had gone to sci.med.orthopedics to get information but it is a moderated
group for professionals only.  I had hoped to get some feedback from people
with similar problems.  I just subscribed to this arthritis group in hopes
of getting advice or support, as your problems with pain must be similar,
albeit longer lasting than injury pain. Thanks for your responses.
Derek in Florida
Harvey R. Stone - 09 Apr 2007 13:35 GMT
Hi Derek,,,,  Welcome to ASA.   What does your doctor say should be taking
place now?   Have you used crutches or a cane to keep some of the pressure
off of your break and allow it to heal?   Bone breaks do not heal in a
couple of weeks.   We have had a great number of people to post here with
arthritis problems from accidents like yours or car wrecks or a slip on the
stairs,, ect.ect.
   Do you have a follow up appointment with your doctor?  If you do,,, at
that time you need to get good answers from the guy that makes big bucks on
the condition of the break and what to do about it.
Harv

> Three weeks ago two large dogs playing in a friend's yard ran full tilt
> into
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> albeit longer lasting than injury pain. Thanks for your responses.
> Derek in Florida
Nann Bell - 09 Apr 2007 15:09 GMT
while the pain persists, has it improved any in this time?   Such injuries
can take longer to heal than we expect but the key issue to attend to is
whether it IS improving, albeit at a slow rate.  I fell on Valentine's Day
and the knee that hit first is STILL tender.  It's ok most of the time, but I
still cannot kneel on it in church.  It has been quite sslow to heal, but has
done so.

If there really has been NO sign of improvement, albeit slow, you might want
to put a call into the doctor's office to find out if what you are
experiencing is to be expected with the degree of injury he diagnosed or
should you be concerned that something else is going on.  

Meanwhile, are you using heat on the knee?  At this stage of the injury,
using a heating pad wrappped around the knee a couple of time each day would
be really beneficial.  Heat increases circulation in the area which helps to
reduce any swelling you might have in the joint and helps to heal any
strained muscles or ligaments in the knee.

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Derek Lawler - 09 Apr 2007 16:41 GMT
Thanks Harv and Nann for your responses.
It has been about 26 days now since the injury and I probably haven't helped
the healing much because of limping along dragging the bad leg.  I got
crutches and a splint from the E room 10 days after it happened but went
back to walking on the leg which probably didn't help the healing. The
splint did nothing for the knee but my entire leg down to the ankle was
bruised---I removed the splint after three days.  So far I am almost able to
walk with a limp. Tried using a cane but it didn't seem to help except for
balance.
The pain in the joint persists and I worry that taking the Tylenol and
Ibuprofin in large quanitites will be bad for my liver. When I compare the
two knees they look and feel the same but the injured one is warm to the
touch.
I will get a heating pad and start using it though, as I am a proponent of
heat for all kinds of injuries.  The experts recommended ice but I never
could tolerate it.
I do have a follow-up appointment but might call the doc's office earlier to
see if there is anything else they can do for me.  Apparently an
arthroscopic exam is not an office procedure, as some sites indicate---his
nurse was shocked that I would even suggest it.
I would like to know the origin of the pain itself, since I had looked at a
chart in the doc's office that showed a football tackle that called it an
"unhappy triad," as there were three parts inside the knee torn up.  My hmo
allows for a second opinion but I hate to go through the mess of doing that.
Maybe more time passing and the body's natural healing process will work for
me.  Thanks again for the input.
Derek
Adelle - 09 Apr 2007 18:54 GMT
> Thanks Harv and Nann for your responses.
> It has been about 26 days now since the injury and I probably haven't
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> me.  Thanks again for the input.
> Derek

Derek;

While you may hate the bother of a second opinion, it could make a huge
difference in how your knee handles future wear and tear. Do a little
research and find out if there is a sports medicine person to whom you can
go for a second opinion. The sports docs are looking for healing with a much
higher level of function than the orthopod whose client list is mostly
people with wear and tear issues which occur from employment and age.

That difference was major when I broke my wrist. A sports doc happened to be
the orthopod on call when I shattered my wrist. After he set it, the HMO
said I had to use their docs for follow ups. All subsequent orthopods who
saw the x-ray made some remark of admiration as to the extent of the break
and how beautifully the sports doc maneuvered all the pieces into place
(most used words like 'amazing'). Each one said they never could have done
it anywhere near as well. This guy also knew the right place to inject some
cortisone when my husband hurt his shoulder. The local orthpod also injected
it, but from another angle - and that first shot did nothing to ease pain or
reduce inflammation. The second provided almost immediate relief.

If the second doc confirms the diagnosis of the first, you can relax. Or
they may be able to help create a plan which will get a higher level of
healing than what you are letting it do right now.

Remember, your knee is going to support your weight for the rest of your
life. You want it in the best shape as possible to handle the ordinary wear
and tear - in addition to the extraordinary stuff like playing with dogs,
friends, or kids (and eventually, everyone younger starts to seem like a
kid).

Wishing you much luck, however you decide to deal with your knee.

Adelle
Derek Lawler - 09 Apr 2007 20:41 GMT
Adelle,
I am going to take your advice and look for a sports orthopod.  I am so glad
you proffered your comments about this because up until a year ago I was
playing singles tennis with people twenty years younger and doing quite well
(I am 73) and this activity gave me the best aeorobic workout I could have
gotten.  My usual partner was worried about his high blood pressure so he
dropped out and it is hard to find a singles player my age. I want to get
back to playing at the level I was at and the way my knee feels just now I
can't see myself going back and forth across the court the way I used to.  I
only hope I can get my hmo to support me on this. Supposedly they do pay for
second opinions. Thanks for your good advice and encouragement.
Derek
 
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