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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / April 2007snoring, and shingles AGAIN!
Darned shingles. I get them about once or twice a year and this is one of the times. The nerve pain down my leg is the worst. I know many of you have had it. Any tricks I may not have tried yet for the pain levels? I can handle my usual pain, but this nerve pain is a whole different animal. The other thing is snoring. I've suddenly started snoring. Never been one to snore at all, ever, and the last 2-3 months I've been snoring so much I'm keeping Tish up, and even waking myself up with it. I'm definitely feeling the effects of the poor sleep, and I know she is. I've tried the nose strips but they don't work. I can feel what I am doing when it starts - it's like I close off the holes at the top of my throat that go up into my nose (dunno the correct anatomical term sorry!) by just closing them like you do when you drink something. It's not my tongue blocking, it's like I just close off my breath. (To see what I'm talking about, pay close attention as you hold your breath while beginning to breather OUTward through your nose - note where you close off. That's what I'm doing. Hope it makes sense. Am open to any advice at ALL. If nothing works I guess next step is a sleep study. Aim sorry about the shingles. you're not the only ASA'er with them right now! i have no advice for you, but i do for tish: earplugs. that's the only way john and i can sleep in the same room. get the yellow and red ones that look like foam bullets. it's allergy season. maybe that's why you're snoring? feel better soon, diane *giggle* Sadly, I'm waking her even through the highest-rated earplugs. We scoured the stores and found some that were 38 or something. Anyway, yeah, I wake her even with those and I feel like a jerk. > sorry about the shingles. you're not the only ASA'er with them right > now! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > diane >*giggle* >Sadly, I'm waking her even through the highest-rated earplugs. We >scoured the stores and found some that were 38 or something. Anyway, >yeah, I wake her even with those and I feel like a jerk. Try these if you haven't already. It's very important to get the proper size. http://earplugstore.stores.yahoo.net/silnatrubear.html Thumper >> sorry about the shingles. you're not the only ASA'er with them right >> now! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> diane Are they giving you the gabapentin for the shingles nerve pain Aim? I am already getting that and Keppra for the neuropathic damage from the enbrel and apparently it is also used for shingles pain. It took care of my husband's pain faster than mine but that doesn't surprise me. I am finding ice is working - and not allowing the area to get warm. Heat seems to set off any neuropathic pain . The ice sort of numbs the area a bit. Any idea is welcome. The reason I have started snoring is the weight gain and the meds I am afraid. No ideas - the strips are crap! The obus forme pillow does help to keep me on my side though. Kelly > Darned shingles. I get them about once or twice a year and this is one of > the times. The nerve pain down my leg is the worst. I know many of you [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Aim Re: snoring. I've wondered if a soft strap under the chin to keep your mouth closed would work. Has anyone heard if this is effective? > Darned shingles. I get them about once or twice a year and this is one of > the times. The nerve pain down my leg is the worst. I know many of you [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Aim > Re: snoring. I've wondered if a soft strap under the chin to keep your > mouth closed would work. Has anyone heard if this is effective? My husband would suffocate. A lot of his snoring is due a deviated septum and allergies. And some of it is due to being overweight, and sleeping on his back. It's tree sex season and the pollen count is nuts around here. Kelly C. > It's tree sex season What a wonderful way of putting it!  SignatureAF "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team." --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball >> It's tree sex season > > What a wonderful way of putting it! Better than "mmmmmmmm smell that tree sperm, get it right up yer nose!" :-) Signaturespammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life: http://www.abmdr.org.au/ http://www.marrow.org/ >>> It's tree sex season >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > :-) *snort* Heehee! Kelly C. > Re: snoring. I've wondered if a soft strap under the chin to keep your mouth > closed would work. Has anyone heard if this is effective? No. It would make breathing harder, and put more strain on the heart. It can be used to stop mouth leak of air during CPAP treatment, though. >> Darned shingles. I get them about once or twice a year and this is one of >> the times. The nerve pain down my leg is the worst. I know many of you [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> Aim Signaturespammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life: http://www.abmdr.org.au/ http://www.marrow.org/ Aw, shucks! I thought I had come up with a simple solution! >> Re: snoring. I've wondered if a soft strap under the chin to keep your >> mouth closed would work. Has anyone heard if this is effective? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>> >>> Aim > Re: snoring. I've wondered if a soft strap under the chin to keep your > mouth closed would work. Has anyone heard if this is effective? Not if it's sleep apnea, but a C-Pap is very effective. From personal experience - DH does sleep studies, and I finally broke down and agreed to a sleep study, and am now on C-Pap, I'm no longer sleep deprived, don't fall asleep as soon as I sit down, and feel much better. Sharon *hugs Aim and Tish* So sorry about the shingles! And sorry for Tish about the snoring. Brett snores terribly on his back, but is usually better on his side. Unless it's an allergic reaction, then I move to the sofa.;o) Kelly C. > Darned shingles. I get them about once or twice a year and this is one of > the times. The nerve pain down my leg is the worst. I know many of you [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Aim > Darned shingles. I get them about once or twice a year and this is one > of the times. The nerve pain down my leg is the worst. I know many of > you have had it. Any tricks I may not have tried yet for the pain > levels? I can handle my usual pain, but this nerve pain is a whole > different animal. Valcyclovir (Valtrex) :-) > The other thing is snoring. I've suddenly started snoring. Never been > one to snore at all, ever, and the last 2-3 months I've been snoring so [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sorry!) by just closing them like you do when you drink something. It's > not my tongue blocking, it's like I just close off my breath. It sounds like obstructive sleep apnea (OSA). One way to lessen the effects is by losing weight, though this does not help everyone (I've had OSA all my life and it got no better when I lost 66 pounds, and was no worse when I gained the weight in the first place). The other option is to start using a CPAP. I don't know how laws are in the US, but I've heard it's hard to buy them second hand there. You should get a referal to a sleep specialist and have a sleep study done, followed by a titration for CPAP (continuous positive airway pressure). Some people with only mild to moderate sleep apnea get massive benefits from CPAP therapy. Ari Signaturespammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life: http://www.abmdr.org.au/ http://www.marrow.org/ > The other thing is snoring. I've suddenly started snoring. Never been one > to snore at all, ever, and the last 2-3 months I've been snoring so much [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > them like you do when you drink something. It's not my tongue blocking, > it's like I just close off my breath. Poor Tish. Charlie's very loud snoring doesn't bother me anymore. But I wouldn't recommend out "cure". I'm profoundly deaf without my implant and processor and that gets turned off at night. Hope the snoring is just from spring allergies and goes away soon. If it doesn't there are lots of cures out there. I think there is even a throat spray you use at bedtime that makes the soft palate a bit firmer. If it does keep up though, it is your sleep as well as Tish's and you need to be checked out for sleep apnea. There are cures and treatments for that too. Jo Ask your Dr. to order a sleep study. Sounds like sleep apnea. Sharon "Aim" < The other thing is snoring. I've suddenly started snoring. Never been > one to snore at all, ever, and the last 2-3 months I've been snoring so > much I'm keeping Tish up, and even waking myself up with it. I'm [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Aim I have no suggestions but absolute sympathy for you on the Shingles. I've never had them (touch wood) but my DH had a couple of years ago and I understand the pain. I used to snore and keep my DH awake and I didn't get much sleep either. I finally went to an ENT and had a sleep study done. I have sleep apnea and now use a CPAP machine. If you do have sleep apnea it is not just annoying to your partner it is very dangerous for you. You don't get much quality sleep and greatly increase your risk for heart attack. Please go to an ENT and get it checked out. >Darned shingles. I get them about once or twice a year and this is one >of the times. The nerve pain down my leg is the worst. I know many of [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Aim -- BettyB -- www.flamingo-code.com "I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road." - Stephen Hawking > I have no suggestions but absolute sympathy for you on the Shingles. > I've never had them (touch wood) but my DH had a couple of years ago [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > don't get much quality sleep and greatly increase your risk for heart > attack. Please go to an ENT and get it checked out. Any GP can order the appropriate tests and prescribe the machine. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> I have no suggestions but absolute sympathy for you on the Shingles. >> I've never had them (touch wood) but my DH had a couple of years ago [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > --Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ENT's don't run the sleep studies. A sleep specialist/pulmonary sleep specialist is who you'll get referred to from your GP, and they'll run the testing. A GP does not have the experience or the expertise to properly select a specific machine, mask, pressure, etc. A sleep clinic can do this and make sure you get the right components and settings for you as an individual. Usually you'll get trials on different types of masks, and perhaps different types of machines (cpap, bipap). Ari Signaturespammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life: http://www.abmdr.org.au/ http://www.marrow.org/ >>> I have no suggestions but absolute sympathy for you on the Shingles. >>> I've never had them (touch wood) but my DH had a couple of years ago [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > you as an individual. Usually you'll get trials on different types of > masks, and perhaps different types of machines (cpap, bipap). I had my sleep studies ordered by a GP and have had prescriptions written by them. I'm not entirely clear who made the recomendation for the pressure, but I believe it was the folks who actually performed the sleep study. I have since moved twice and gone through a couple of machines and have never had a new doctor question my assertion that I had been prescribed a CPAP. Come to think of it I've never had a doctor question any prescription I claim to have had from a previous doctor, but that is another matter. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>>> I have no suggestions but absolute sympathy for you on the Shingles. >>>> I've never had them (touch wood) but my DH had a couple of years ago [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >any prescription I claim to have had from a previous doctor, but that is >another matter. In CA and in OR my internist referred me to an ENT who did some tests in the office - used a scope to look into my airway for any malformation or possible infection. ENT then referred me to the lab that did the sleep study. Different methods were used to determine the proper pressure. -- BettyB -- www.flamingo-code.com "I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road." - Stephen Hawking >>>>> I have no suggestions but absolute sympathy for you on the Shingles. >>>>> I've never had them (touch wood) but my DH had a couple of years ago [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > proper pressure. > -- That's nice. I got stuick for two nights in the sleep clinic which my insurance companty then refused to pay for. Mind you, they never payed for anything at all. That was Country Companies of Illinois. Note that: Copuntry Companies of Illinois. Apparently their attitude is that life is a preexisting condition that isn't covered. They never paid a dime for anything. Ever. Nothing. Country Comapanies of Illinois. Crooks. Ah. Now it's time for a drink. Let's see. Methotrexate on Friday, hmmm. maybe tomorrow for a drink. 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