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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / March 2007Another one of my silly question!
Good Morning, As I was going to bed last night.I was thinking about all of you, struggling with pain on a Daily basis, for a very long time, I had OA since 1998, first time I went to see a RA, after taking X Rays he told me, the cartilage was gone, but I was able to control the pain,as the years went by, less and less medications worked, As I told you Vioxx was very good to me, and I would take it now if available, all the other ones, no results, Mobic my recent one, nothing, so I go back to Oxycodone, who relieved the thought that I am in pain, I feel elated when taking it, but as for really treating the inflammation, no, and my Doctor is reluctant to give it to me, telling me that's what they will used after the surgery, and if taking too much now, it wont work later, I know it makes sense. Last night the pain was like a stabbing on my left leg, burning also, each step wants to make you scream. My silly question is, do you ever feel like giving up, I have been thinking a lot about that lately, and I am ashamed to feel like that. I am waiting anxiously for my surgery, will he really works, I guess I have a bad day today, and I don't know If I told you but I am going to see my Daughter and Grand Daughter on April the 10th, in France, not looking for the trip, but need to see them before the surgery, after that it will be a while before I can go. Do I feel sorry for myself, I don't think so, but I never knew that great pain can rob you of everything, its consuming, you don't know one day from the other if you will be able to go to the store, getting up from a chair has become something, that I have to think of before doing it. I am sorry for what seems to be a feeling sorry for my self email, but who can I tell how I really feel , not many people wants to listen. Thank for letting me going on and on. Take care of yourself, and if you have a second,send me a note. Gigi. Hi Gigi, Yes, pain can take over your life as you know. It can also cause depression and that can be treated. Depression makes one less able to deal with constant pain. Sounds like you are about there. Can you use crutches until your surgery date to keep pressure off your leg? It might help some. There are stronger drugs than oxycodone that can be used if they are willing. GaryZ Good Morning, As I was going to bed last night.I was thinking about all of you, struggling with pain on a Daily basis, for a very long time, I had OA since 1998, first time I went to see a RA, after taking X Rays he told me, the cartilage was gone, but I was able to control the pain,as the years went by, less and less medications worked, As I told you Vioxx was very good to me, and I would take it now if available, all the other ones, no results, Mobic my recent one, nothing, so I go back to Oxycodone, who relieved the thought that I am in pain, I feel elated when taking it, but as for really treating the inflammation, no, and my Doctor is reluctant to give it to me, telling me that's what they will used after the surgery, and if taking too much now, it wont work later, I know it makes sense. Last night the pain was like a stabbing on my left leg, burning also, each step wants to make you scream. My silly question is, do you ever feel like giving up, I have been thinking a lot about that lately, and I am ashamed to feel like that. I am waiting anxiously for my surgery, will he really works, I guess I have a bad day today, and I don't know If I told you but I am going to see my Daughter and Grand Daughter on April the 10th, in France, not looking for the trip, but need to see them before the surgery, after that it will be a while before I can go. Do I feel sorry for myself, I don't think so, but I never knew that great pain can rob you of everything, its consuming, you don't know one day from the other if you will be able to go to the store, getting up from a chair has become something, that I have to think of before doing it. I am sorry for what seems to be a feeling sorry for my self email, but who can I tell how I really feel , not many people wants to listen. Thank for letting me going on and on. Take care of yourself, and if you have a second,send me a note. Gigi. Gary, I'm using a cane right now, and at home a walker, I am taking Wellbutrin XL, as for getting stronger pain medications, my Doctor told me to not take too much oxycodone and gave to me 30 at the time, I told him I was depressed, he says the Wellbutrin should take care of that, well it doesn't, I left him a message this morning. Thank you. Gigi. Hi Gigi, Yes, pain can take over your life as you know. It can also cause depression and that can be treated. Depression makes one less able to deal with constant pain. Sounds like you are about there. Can you use crutches until your surgery date to keep pressure off your leg? It might help some. There are stronger drugs than oxycodone that can be used if they are willing. GaryZ "Ladybug75" <allie203@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Gf-dnYVrdsPio5fbnZ2dnUVZ_tGvnZ2d@comcast.com... Good Morning, As I was going to bed last night.I was thinking about all of you, struggling with pain on a Daily basis, for a very long time, I had OA since 1998, first time I went to see a RA, after taking X Rays he told me, the cartilage was gone, but I was able to control the pain,as the years went by, less and less medications worked, As I told you Vioxx was very good to me, and I would take it now if available, all the other ones, no results, Mobic my recent one, nothing, so I go back to Oxycodone, who relieved the thought that I am in pain, I feel elated when taking it, but as for really treating the inflammation, no, and my Doctor is reluctant to give it to me, telling me that's what they will used after the surgery, and if taking too much now, it wont work later, I know it makes sense. Last night the pain was like a stabbing on my left leg, burning also, each step wants to make you scream. My silly question is, do you ever feel like giving up, I have been thinking a lot about that lately, and I am ashamed to feel like that. I am waiting anxiously for my surgery, will he really works, I guess I have a bad day today, and I don't know If I told you but I am going to see my Daughter and Grand Daughter on April the 10th, in France, not looking for the trip, but need to see them before the surgery, after that it will be a while before I can go. Do I feel sorry for myself, I don't think so, but I never knew that great pain can rob you of everything, its consuming, you don't know one day from the other if you will be able to go to the store, getting up from a chair has become something, that I have to think of before doing it. I am sorry for what seems to be a feeling sorry for my self email, but who can I tell how I really feel , not many people wants to listen. Thank for letting me going on and on. Take care of yourself, and if you have a second,send me a note. Gigi. Good Morning, As I was going to bed last night.I was thinking about all of you, struggling with pain on a Daily basis, for a very long time, I had OA since 1998, first time I went to see a RA, after taking X Rays he told me, the cartilage was gone, but I was able to control the pain,as the years went by, less and less medications worked, As I told you Vioxx was very good to me, and I would take it now if available, all the other ones, no results, Mobic my recent one, nothing, so I go back to Oxycodone, who relieved the thought that I am in pain, I feel elated when taking it, but as for really treating the inflammation, no, and my Doctor is reluctant to give it to me, telling me that's what they will used after the surgery, and if taking too much now, it wont work later, I know it makes sense. Last night the pain was like a stabbing on my left leg, burning also, each step wants to make you scream. My silly question is, do you ever feel like giving up, I have been thinking a lot about that lately, and I am ashamed to feel like that. I am waiting anxiously for my surgery, will he really works, I guess I have a bad day today, and I don't know If I told you but I am going to see my Daughter and Grand Daughter on April the 10th, in France, not looking for the trip, but need to see them before the surgery, after that it will be a while before I can go. Do I feel sorry for myself, I don't think so, but I never knew that great pain can rob you of everything, its consuming, you don't know one day from the other if you will be able to go to the store, getting up from a chair has become something, that I have to think of before doing it. I am sorry for what seems to be a feeling sorry for my self email, but who can I tell how I really feel , not many people wants to listen. Thank for letting me going on and on. Take care of yourself, and if you have a second,send me a note. Gigi. Hi Gigi,,,,, What you are feeling is what people with back problems live with every day. When it gets so bad that a person can not live this way any more,,,,,,,,, its time to operate and fix the problem. Hips and knees are the same way but just not as bad as the pain with back problems. People with uncontrolled RA end up in a wheel chair and other people helping them to do anything. I would say that the way you feel is normal for a person who needs to have a procedure done to make life more livable. Please do not feel guilty about the way you feel just because other people may and I say may be worse off. Who is to say how bad your pain is. Who is to say how much better you would be if it was done at an earlier date. One thing a person has to do with arthritis problems is accept what is and do their best to take steps to make it better. We need to hear from you about what is done and how you are dealing with that because it might make someone else get the procedure done early and not live with the pain you are having to live with today. Harv Harv, thank you, I will let everyone know about everything concerning the surgery, I was willing to get it earlier, few years ago, to which a surgeon told me to wait, because the prosthesis lost only for 10 years, I'm 60 now, so I guess they want to give me few years of been able to function, sometimes I think I am a strong person, and sometimes like today, I crumble like a cookie. Thank you. Gigi. "Ladybug75" <allie203@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Gf-dnYVrdsPio5fbnZ2dnUVZ_tGvnZ2d@comcast.com... Good Morning, As I was going to bed last night.I was thinking about all of you, struggling with pain on a Daily basis, for a very long time, I had OA since 1998, first time I went to see a RA, after taking X Rays he told me, the cartilage was gone, but I was able to control the pain,as the years went by, less and less medications worked, As I told you Vioxx was very good to me, and I would take it now if available, all the other ones, no results, Mobic my recent one, nothing, so I go back to Oxycodone, who relieved the thought that I am in pain, I feel elated when taking it, but as for really treating the inflammation, no, and my Doctor is reluctant to give it to me, telling me that's what they will used after the surgery, and if taking too much now, it wont work later, I know it makes sense. Last night the pain was like a stabbing on my left leg, burning also, each step wants to make you scream. My silly question is, do you ever feel like giving up, I have been thinking a lot about that lately, and I am ashamed to feel like that. I am waiting anxiously for my surgery, will he really works, I guess I have a bad day today, and I don't know If I told you but I am going to see my Daughter and Grand Daughter on April the 10th, in France, not looking for the trip, but need to see them before the surgery, after that it will be a while before I can go. Do I feel sorry for myself, I don't think so, but I never knew that great pain can rob you of everything, its consuming, you don't know one day from the other if you will be able to go to the store, getting up from a chair has become something, that I have to think of before doing it. I am sorry for what seems to be a feeling sorry for my self email, but who can I tell how I really feel , not many people wants to listen. Thank for letting me going on and on. Take care of yourself, and if you have a second,send me a note. Gigi. Hi Gigi,,,,, What you are feeling is what people with back problems live with every day. When it gets so bad that a person can not live this way any more,,,,,,,,, its time to operate and fix the problem. Hips and knees are the same way but just not as bad as the pain with back problems. People with uncontrolled RA end up in a wheel chair and other people helping them to do anything. I would say that the way you feel is normal for a person who needs to have a procedure done to make life more livable. Please do not feel guilty about the way you feel just because other people may and I say may be worse off. Who is to say how bad your pain is. Who is to say how much better you would be if it was done at an earlier date. One thing a person has to do with arthritis problems is accept what is and do their best to take steps to make it better. We need to hear from you about what is done and how you are dealing with that because it might make someone else get the procedure done early and not live with the pain you are having to live with today. Harv On Mar 28, 6:03 am, Gigi wrote: > Harv, thank you, I will let everyone know about everything concerning > the surgery, I was willing to get it earlier, few years ago, to which a > surgeon told me to wait, because the prosthesis lost only for 10 years, That's what I was told in 1978 - wait so you won't have to have it replaced 3 or 4 times in your lifetime. Meanwhile, new materials developed in the space program have enabled them to develop artificial hips and knees that last 20-25 years. I was 63 when I had the left hip replaced in 2000 and at this moment I'm working with the surgeon for the right hip I doubt that I will ever need to have either replaced a 2nd time. At your age, you may need one replacement because you're going to be a centenarian. (Why isn't that spelled like "century"?) No way I am going to live to be 100 years old, and do not want too, you are right about the new technology, but 2 yeas ago he still told me too early. Good luck with the right hip... By the way, when you have the surgery, are you admitted the same Day or the Day before. Gigi. > On Mar 28, 6:03 am, Gigi wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > At your age, you may need one replacement because you're > going to be a centenarian. (Why isn't that spelled like "century"?) > By the way, when you have the surgery, are you admitted the > same Day or the Day before. Funny thing about that. <g> At orientation in the hospital, a nurse said "be here by 8 a.m." and she wrote that on my papers. At an appointment 6 days before the operation, the doctor mentioned checking in the evening before because I was scheduled for 8:00. I showed him the check-off list from the hospital, and he said they made a mistake. He had a second surgery scheduled for 10:00. I checked in late Wednesday. Thursday, U was in a shower at 6 a.m. washing with a special "pre-op" soap, in pre-op a 7 a.m., and knocked out (or fell asleep) by 7:15. <g> I never saw my surgeon or the O.R. I woke about 12:30, in my own room. Don't know if I ever was in a recovery room. Gigi, I'm sorry you're in such pain. I'm sure many of us here have had periods of time when the chronic pain got us down to the point of wanting a way out. Please hang in there. Your surgery may make a world of difference. In addition, research goes on and newer forms of pain relief may be right around the corner. Obviously the wellbutrin isn't working well for you (it didn't work for me either). Your doc needs to try another antidepressant. It may take a few trials to find the right one for you. For me, prozac was my miracle back in the unbearable days. Eventually it faded and I now take cymbalta. as far as i'm concerned, anyone with chronic debilitating illness should strongly consider an antidepressant. i hope you're able to enjoy your trip. please keep us posted on the surgery and how you're doing. thinking of you, diane Diane, Thank you, I was on Prozac also a while back and the effect didn't last very long, I see that you are taking Cymbalta, I was watching a commercial on TV few months ago about it, explaining that the medication was treating depression and some sort of pain, I will ask my Doctor about it, if she willing to listen, she must think I'm a pain in the butt. You cheer me up Diane, today I feel terrible, maybe not enough sleep, I don't know. I will keep you posted. Hugs . Gigi > Gigi, I'm sorry you're in such pain. I'm sure many of us here have had > periods of time when the chronic pain got us down to the point of [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > diane > Diane, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > depression and some sort of pain, I will ask my Doctor about it, if she > willing to listen, she must think I'm a pain in the butt. several of the anti-depressants help (some) with pain. The list includes wellbutrin, but it's one of those find the one that works best for you situations. cymbalta has been much heralded in the fibromyalgia community as supposedly helping with the pain of that disease more than others. I haven't tried switching to it yet - I've been doing reasonably well on lexapro. If your doctor won't listen on this - find another! This is a VERY REASONALE concern and your doctor needs to listen and help you with it. And you deserve a doctor who will provide you with good care. Yes, some people pester doctors with minor, even insignificant concers. This is not one of those situations. It's a valid concern and your doctor should hear you and work with you, not blow you off.  SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare Gigi, no need to apologize for that post. We are the folks who can understand what you are feeling more thoroughly than just about anyone else. Heck, my DH can teel how lousy I feel by my behavior and movement, but he doesn't understand in the way this group does. I think we all have times when we just want to be done with it. We all have to find what most helps us individually through such times. For me it is prayer, a deep and abiding knowledge that it's the disease, the fatigue and the pain I want to be done with, not life itself, and certain musical works that I now call "therapeutic". I spent 5 full CDs on the couch yesterday - Albinoni, J S Bach, Barber's Adagio, Russian Orthodox choral music more Bach. Just being able to listen to music like that makes life worth living. Think about what you can do along such lines that will lift your spirits some - and give yourself a day to devote to mental therapy. We all need it sometiems. And do follow through with your doctors as others and yourself have suggested. If doctors still say wait for surgery until you're older, find yourself another doctor. That thinking is way outdated. You need to make what time you have better rather than worrying about time you may not have. If you are in a car accident in 5 years time, you'll be glad you had the surgery so you'd have some better eyars in there! (blunt, I know, but that's my philosophy! focus on making the time you have the best possible.) SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare
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