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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / March 2007Feel like a new person again
Sorry I've not been around much lately, but have been in a serious bout of depression lately. Wish I knew where it all comes from. Woke this morning and felt like I'm alive again. Been taking my meds so that should have offset it, but it didn't. My meds have been handling it pretty well in the past, just hit a slump I guess. Seems to be a lot of problems here lately and I hope things go well in all cases. GaryZ (hoping this feeling lasts for a long time) (((((gary))))) Sometimes it's just that time of year! I have this problem every year just about this time. Something happened the year that I was three! And without realizing it every year my mind cycles back and becomes depressed. And I have to work through it each and every year. You might have something like this in your past! Just my .00002, Vickie B. This is an interesting thought you have Vickie. I will see if I can relate that to anything. I have only been diagnosed for a couple of years but know I have suffered much, much longer than that. Maybe just hit a dip. GaryZ > (((((gary))))) Sometimes it's just that time of year! I have this > problem every year just about this time. Something happened the year [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Vickie B. �And I have to work through it each and > every year. You might have something like this in your past! oh my gosh, vickie, you just hit a nerve in me! i'm visiting my sis in NJ, and just drove to starbucks (where i can get online). in the car, i had the window down a bit and felt the smells of early spring and this strong, sorrowful feeling came over me. reading your email made me realize the feeling goes back to a painful early spring romance when i was 18! that's almost 40 years ago. our emotions are so strongly linked to our senses. diane >oh my gosh, vickie, you just hit a nerve in me! >i'm visiting my sis in NJ, and just drove to starbucks (where i can [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >diane At times I have found spring to be difficult. I also think this goes back to being young and in love, and then having things change around that when I developed RA at about 14 or 15. Rose @}>->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB Please remove "Ima" to reply. > Sorry I've not been around much lately, but have been in a serious bout of > depression lately. Wish I knew where it all comes from. Woke this morning [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cases. > GaryZ (hoping this feeling lasts for a long time) Hi Gary,,, Don't we all wish we understood our feeling,,, most assuredly depression. We all have our ups and downs. There are very few of us that know when to get help for them and I am not one of them. I do know that if how we feel cause us to think about doing things that effect others and even ourselves,,,, it is past time to find help and something we must do,,,, sooon. None of us can know what your state of mind is but saying something about it here is a good sign and sometimes proves that it is not too serious for you. Keep on keepen on big guy. Harv > None of us can know what your state of mind is but saying something > about it here is a good sign and sometimes proves that it is not too > serious for you. Keep on keepen on big guy. > Harv Hi Harv, Been on meds for about 2 years now and normally feel well. I just hit these pits once in awhile and lose interest in most things. That's how I can tell I'm in a slump. If it gets any deeper than that, I know to go for emergency visit to head doc. Thanks, GaryZ ((((((((((((((((Gary)))))))))))) I know what you mean about the depression thing. Don't you just love those days when you wake up and feel great for a little while? I really treasure those days and take advantage of them. RhondaM > Sorry I've not been around much lately, but have been in a serious bout of > depression lately. Wish I knew where it all comes from. Woke this morning [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cases. > GaryZ (hoping this feeling lasts for a long time) Yay, Gary, so glad to read that you are on the upswing again!!! Hows that back feeling after the nasty fall? Had it recovered yet? Better start working on your endurance now for the upcoming golf season!!! BTW, speaking of golf season, anyone heard from Janers lately??? . . . Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS...... Hi Donna, The back is healed. The sciatica has passed either from being able to twist far enough to relieve the pinched nerve, or from no longer sleeping on the futon in the living room (though I still do that occasionally). Have not heard from Janers in a long time. Might have to email her to see if she's ok. GaryZ > Yay, Gary, so glad to read that you are on the upswing again!!! Hows > that back feeling after the nasty fall? Had it recovered yet? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call > them FRIENDS...... >Sorry I've not been around much lately, but have been in a serious bout of >depression lately. Wish I knew where it all comes from. Woke this morning [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >cases. >GaryZ (hoping this feeling lasts for a long time) Have you tried taking vitamin D3? I was astounded when I found out that there are two kinds of vitamin D: D2 and D3. D3 is what our bodies produce from exposure to sunlight, and it's what they give people who suffer from seasonal affective disorder in the wintertime. When my doctor recommended it I tried it (that was about two years ago) and it knocked my bouts of depression down to only occasional. And I've been reading a lot lately about how it's the more important vitamin D to take when taking calcium supplements, to help the body absorb the calcium. Just a suggestion. :) Kitt -- DaKittster "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to slide in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming: WOW...WHAT A RIDE!!!" > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:10:51 -0500, "Gary Z" > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > but rather to slide in broadside, thoroughly used up, > totally worn out, and proclaiming: WOW...WHAT A RIDE!!!" Thanks Kitt, will look into it. Have the same tag line posted on my bulletin board at work though it ends with "shouting Geronimo" and credited to Hunter S Thompson. [...] >> Kitt >> -- [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >with "shouting Geronimo" and >credited to Hunter S Thompson. Hey, thanks for mentioning that! I've been looking all over trying to find who the author of that quote is, and trying to find it via searches on Google or other search engines is maddening. I'll be able to pin down the exact quote when I do the search again. -- DaKittster "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to slide in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming: WOW...WHAT A RIDE!!!" >>> DaKittster >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Google or other search engines is maddening. I'll be able to pin down the > exact quote when I do the search again. The exact quote I have is as follows: Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, and shouting Geronimo!" Hunter S Thompson > Have you tried takingvitaminD3? I was astounded when I found out that > there are two kinds ofvitaminD: D2 and D3. D3 is what our bodies [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > When my doctor recommended it I tried it (that was about two years ago) and > it knocked my bouts of depression down to only occasional. Don't bother with D2 Ergocalciferol the reasons why this isn't suitable for use as a supplement are found here http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/84/4/694 In the UK, or really anywhere above latitude 45, during the Winter everyone should be supplementing with an effective amount of D3. This research http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/3/860 shows that nearly 9 out of 10 of us are Vitamin d insufficient in Winter and 6 out of 10 remain so the whole year. Having a low Vitamin D3 status makes you more vulnerable to cancer, ms, diabetes, hypertension and autoimmune conditions. So apart from improving your mood status and physical strength it really is a multifuncitional vitamin. You can buy an effective strength from the links at the Vitamin D Council Website there are several listed. http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/ The amount your body uses daily is here http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/77/1/204 The fact that this is a perfectly safe amount to take is explained here http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/85/1/6 Using natural sunlight is an alternative when this is available and it's warm enough to lay naked (or as near to as you dare) Around 20 minutes full body exposure 3 times a week should be sufficient. Taking sufficient supplements to ensure your sun/food total intake averages 4000iu a day should really make a difference to your ability to get about. Ok, folks. so my bottle of D says it's Cholecalciferol. Is that D2 or D3? I suspect the former, despite the slight difference in name, as I bought it at a well-known discount chain store. I started taking a lot more a month ago because I was starting to cramp up a lot again. It seemed to help, but only a bit and not enough to allow me to exercise regularly again. Do you need to hit specialized stores to get D3? We have limited shopping here, but we DO have a GNC so i might be able to find it there the next time we get into Alpena (25 miels away). Winter does still get to me some even on an anti-depresssant and it drags down the DH some as well - and we do live a nudge above the 45th parallel.  SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare >Ok, folks. so my bottle of D says it's Cholecalciferol. Is that D2 or D3? >I suspect the former, despite the slight difference in name, as I bought it >at a well-known discount chain store. Actually, that's D3. It's becoming more commonly found since those major studies were published. I get my straight at 1,000 IU's from my chiropractor, but I also get it in the Citracal that I take for the calcium. It has the D3 as well, which is the combination recommended now for maximum absorption of the calcium. > I started taking a lot more a month >ago because I was starting to cramp up a lot again. It seemed to help, but >only a bit and not enough to allow me to exercise regularly again. Do you >need to hit specialized stores to get D3? We have limited shopping here, but >we DO have a GNC so i might be able to find it there the next time we get >into Alpena (25 miels away). Since we live so rurally (nearest tiny town is 5 miles away), I do a lot of shopping online, and I can get Citracal and most of my other supplements at http://drugstore.com/, at a great discount with free shipping if you buy $50 in products. (No, I don't get a discount or commission or kickbacks from them, they're just a great source for supplements and other things for people like me on an extremely tight budget, often beating K-Mart and Wal*Mart prices.) >Winter does still get to me some even on an anti-depresssant and it drags >down the DH some as well - and we do live a nudge above the 45th parallel. So do we, and taking the D3 during the wintertime really has made a huge difference for me. Being near Lake Superior we get lake-effect snow a good portion of the winter, and a six month snow season is pretty typical here. With city ammenities so far away cabin fever was a constant battle; topped off with seasonal affective disorder it was almost unbearable. That's all changed now. Winters are still hard, but not something to be dreaded any longer. -- LadyKitt "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to slide in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming: WOW...WHAT A RIDE!!!" > Actually, that's D3. It's becoming more commonly found since those major > studies were published. I get my straight at 1,000 IU's from my > chiropractor, but I also get it in the Citracal that I take for the > calcium. It has the D3 as well, which is the combination recommended now > for maximum absorption of the calcium. ah, well. I guess changing my D isn't the simple solution. Maybe I need longer on a higher dose (went from 1000 IU to 2600 IU/day a month ago). Or maybe the CoQ10 I started about 10 days ago will kick in. Things have been going more downhill the last 2.5 years, but there've been so many changes in our lives in recent years, it's hard to know what's up. > So do we, and taking the D3 during the wintertime really has made a huge > difference for me. Being near Lake Superior we get lake-effect snow a good [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > changed now. Winters are still hard, but not something to be dreaded any > longer. though, you know, it's easier with snow on the ground than this dreary brown-ness we've had since the early thaw. I'll take cold and sunny over 40-50, overcast and drizzling any day! (well, I don't want to return to 8 and a wind chill of -20, but will go for the teens with only a light breeze!) SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare > > Actually, that's D3. It's becoming more commonly found since those major > > studies were published. I get my straight at 1,000 IU's from my [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > remove the Gator cheer to email me > Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare I was having a bout of the winter blues & my loving hubby bought me something called a 'happy light.' It is a non-prescription sunlight replicator (not the word I was looking for, but the best I can do right now - brain is a little fuzzy). I sit in front of it & eat my breakfast every morning - it has helped _so_ much! Maybe one of those would help along with the D3. Plantmistress It might be the strange weather, Gary. I had to blame everything on the weather, but it really seems to ahve been affecting things in our corner of Michigan. Things are changing back and forth faster and more often than they have since I first moved north of the Mason-Dixon line, 6.5 years ago. The body just gets so messed up and can't regulate stuff. I've had some real funk spell lately myself. Hate to think how down I would have been without Lexapro! Hang in there, keep the good feeling and look forward to sunshine and green greens! SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare Gary, i'm glad you're feeling better. slumps suck! diane Just in time for golf season ;-) Nanny > Sorry I've not been around much lately, but have been in a serious bout of > depression lately. Wish I knew where it all comes from. Woke this morning [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cases. > GaryZ (hoping this feeling lasts for a long time)
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