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d'huit - 07 Mar 2007 04:57 GMT
mom's settling in the convalescent hospital ok, so far.  she has a roomie
whose a bit of a frightful old grouchy-poo, but she doesn't seem to phase
mom, thank goodness.

my father's surgery is tomorrow afternoon at 2.  he'll be moving into the
same convalescent hospital, after 3 days in the hospital, to complete his
surgical recovery.  he's kind of happy he'll be near mom.

nothing completed yet, as far as testing/results go for my nephew and sil.

i'm backsliding.  well, actually i mean all the spinal injections, at all
levels, are wearing off already, pretty much have.  i'm on my cane a lot
now.  back to not being able to sleep more than 3 hours a night, with an
occassional chair catnap for a few minutes during the day.  even with my
back's urging insistance for me to get up, i really don't want to get out of
bed.  y'know the want-to/don't want-to thing.  the lowest doses of
everything i try, pain meds, set off a maddening itch.  i call it my
narco-itch.  it doesn't matter what i try, ultracet, codeine with tylenol,
oxycodone (not at the same time, of course,  and at lower than the
prescribed dose.).  it seems like though that stuff worked fine for awhile,
i must develop an allergy to them all eventually.  and of course, back
spasms have figured out where i live again.  can't seem to fool them.  they
keep finding my address.  so, i'm a bit of a tired whiner these days.

i guess i have to make an consult appmt. to see my pain specialist again,
eventually.  i don't see what else he can do, though, since i'm over the
limit on the cortisone injections already.  obviously, surgery is not a good
option for me with this many spinal levels involved.  i think that would be
asking for more trouble, like multi-level surgical failures.  i mean, i keep
thinking that with 19 bad areas, there isn't much left for an ortho to afix
stuff to and depend upon for stability.  i'd have a gigantic metal brace for
a spine in the end result, and one that wouldn't stay put at that.  i guess
i really should look into that drx9000 treatment stuff.  i've been meaning
to do that.

anyway, sorry for whining so much.  i should be focusing on the folks right
now.  i just needed a bit of a waaaah . . .  nothing major.

kate
Kimmy - 07 Mar 2007 07:15 GMT
How about a soft squishy hug to soothe that "bit of a waaaah"? I'll even
send you a virtual margarita to take the edge off (or I could fax you one -
just run it thru your shredder and then serve in a paper cup).

Hugs,
Kimmy

> mom's settling in the convalescent hospital ok, so far.  she has a roomie
> whose a bit of a frightful old grouchy-poo, but she doesn't seem to phase
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>
> kate
d'huit - 10 Mar 2007 07:07 GMT
what???  virtual?  i want (erase that), i need the real thing!lol(did you
really believe i would say anything else?)  thank you for the hug, sweetie.

kate

How about a soft squishy hug to soothe that "bit of a waaaah"? I'll even
send you a virtual margarita to take the edge off (or I could fax you one -
just run it thru your shredder and then serve in a paper cup).

Hugs,
Kimmy

> mom's settling in the convalescent hospital ok, so far.  she has a roomie
> whose a bit of a frightful old grouchy-poo, but she doesn't seem to phase
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>
> kate
Cindy - 07 Mar 2007 13:35 GMT
Kate...Lots of hugs...Soft and easy ones..
Prayers tooo...
Something else I was going to say here...but lost my train of
thought...Duhh...
Just know it must have been more hugs and prayers..
Cindy
> mom's settling in the convalescent hospital ok, so far.  she has a roomie
> whose a bit of a frightful old grouchy-poo, but she doesn't seem to phase
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>
> kate
d'huit - 10 Mar 2007 07:08 GMT
thanks, cindy.  not to worry, my train of thought takes a dirt road all the
time.lol

kate
Kate...Lots of hugs...Soft and easy ones..
Prayers tooo...
Something else I was going to say here...but lost my train of
thought...Duhh...
Just know it must have been more hugs and prayers..
Cindy
> mom's settling in the convalescent hospital ok, so far.  she has a roomie
> whose a bit of a frightful old grouchy-poo, but she doesn't seem to phase
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> occassional chair catnap for a few minutes during the day.  even with my
> back's urging insistance for me to get up, i really don't want to get out
of
> bed.  y'know the want-to/don't want-to thing.  the lowest doses of
> everything i try, pain meds, set off a maddening itch.  i call it my
> narco-itch.  it doesn't matter what i try, ultracet, codeine with tylenol,
> oxycodone (not at the same time, of course,  and at lower than the
> prescribed dose.).  it seems like though that stuff worked fine for
awhile,
> i must develop an allergy to them all eventually.  and of course, back
> spasms have figured out where i live again.  can't seem to fool them.
they
> keep finding my address.  so, i'm a bit of a tired whiner these days.
>
> i guess i have to make an consult appmt. to see my pain specialist again,
> eventually.  i don't see what else he can do, though, since i'm over the
> limit on the cortisone injections already.  obviously, surgery is not a
good
> option for me with this many spinal levels involved.  i think that would
be
> asking for more trouble, like multi-level surgical failures.  i mean, i
keep
> thinking that with 19 bad areas, there isn't much left for an ortho to
afix
> stuff to and depend upon for stability.  i'd have a gigantic metal brace
for
> a spine in the end result, and one that wouldn't stay put at that.  i
guess
> i really should look into that drx9000 treatment stuff.  i've been meaning
> to do that.
>
> anyway, sorry for whining so much.  i should be focusing on the folks
right
> now.  i just needed a bit of a waaaah . . .  nothing major.
>
> kate
Diane - 07 Mar 2007 17:01 GMT
you are entitled to a good whine, kate! it's so hard to deal with
aging parents when we've got our own health issues going on. i wish
you were feeling better. :-(

diane
d'huit - 10 Mar 2007 07:14 GMT
you are entitled to a good whine, kate! it's so hard to deal with
aging parents when we've got our own health issues going on. i wish
you were feeling better. :-(

diane

thanks, sweetie.  today was waaay better than yesterday.  didn't have to use
my cane today.  could've, but didn't HAVE TO.<g>

yesterday, on the otherhand, i literally wanted to shoot any architect who
designed hospitals and convalescent homes with hallways!  yesterday, i'd've
welcomed two canes to use to walk those damn hallways, cuz one wasn't
getting it.  must've been a weather change or something.  ugh.

kate
Carole - 10 Mar 2007 23:51 GMT
> you are entitled to a good whine, kate! it's so hard to deal with
> aging parents when we've got our own health issues going on. i wish
> you were feeling better. :-(
>
> diane

Me too.  Here's a BIG HUG. Hope you feel better soon, Kate. My knee has
been acting up lately, so I told it to knock it off...but it doesn't
listen :(

Carole
Harvey R. Stone - 08 Mar 2007 01:25 GMT
> anyway, sorry for whining so much.  i should be focusing on the folks
> right
> now.  i just needed a bit of a waaaah . . .  nothing major.
>
> kate

Aaah but it is major too and enough to completely stop most of us.   You and
yours are in my prayers.
harv
d'huit - 10 Mar 2007 07:16 GMT
awwww, thanks, guy.

kate

> anyway, sorry for whining so much.  i should be focusing on the folks
> right
> now.  i just needed a bit of a waaaah . . .  nothing major.
>
> kate

Aaah but it is major too and enough to completely stop most of us.   You and
yours are in my prayers.
harv
Nann Bell - 08 Mar 2007 14:43 GMT
(((((((((((((kate))))))))))))  you're entitled to a whine, I don't know how
many of us could endure all the spinal stuff you've faced with other joints
adding their own insanity.  Go in to see the pain specialist, at least.  When
you are feeling this lousy it's time to get the medical professionals to do
some of the thinking for you.

here's hoping they invent a miracle artificial, flexible spine soon for folks
like you.

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d'huit - 10 Mar 2007 07:19 GMT
thanks, nann.  it's gonna be a bit, yet, before i can clear my slate for an
appmt.  but i will.  yesterday, i totally promised myself i will.  ohhh, for
startrek medicine, eh?

kate
(((((((((((((kate))))))))))))  you're entitled to a whine, I don't know how
many of us could endure all the spinal stuff you've faced with other joints
adding their own insanity.  Go in to see the pain specialist, at least.
When
you are feeling this lousy it's time to get the medical professionals to do
some of the thinking for you.

here's hoping they invent a miracle artificial, flexible spine soon for
folks
like you.

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Nann Bell - 11 Mar 2007 14:09 GMT
> thanks, nann.  it's gonna be a bit, yet, before i can clear my slate for an
> appmt.  but i will.  yesterday, i totally promised myself i will.  ohhh, for
> startrek medicine, eh?

go ahead and schedule that appointment for that time in the future when you
have time, or don't have anything scheduled yet.  Then you can schedule other
things around it.

(I'm not really one to talk - it took me 3 months to get my hair cut!  But
you know how we worry about others more than we worry about ourselves.)

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Squirrely - 09 Mar 2007 03:24 GMT
Kate,

glad to hear you mom is settling in at the convalescent  hospital nicely.

Will be keeping your dad in my prayers for his surgery and recovery. It is
good he will go to the same hospital as your mom.

I am sorry to hear you backsliding or your back sliding, which ever the case
may be. Sorry I know it is not funny, but after the stressful week I have
had, I am not really here.

I sure hope they will find something that will help you out. I feel for you.
I can't imagine what you are going thru with this back like this.

Hey it is ok to whine and we have some lovely sharp cheddar cheese to go
with that.
I know you too well Kate and I know you are thinking of your folks even when
you are whining. ;-) We all need to get stuff off our chest and what better
way to do so than here. We are here for that even if we can't perform a
miracle for you. We do have broad shoulders for some crying on. ;-)

Just make sure they are not heavy tears though. ;-) Anyways right now, my
rotator cuffs are a big mess right now.

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  Love and hugs Jo

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> mom's settling in the convalescent hospital ok, so far.  she has a roomie
> whose a bit of a frightful old grouchy-poo, but she doesn't seem to phase
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>
> kate
d'huit - 10 Mar 2007 07:24 GMT
you caught that, eh?lol  i meant it as a sly p/f-unny.  thanks, sweetie.
i'm sorry your shoulders are bugging you, hon.  that doesn't sound fun at
all.  thank you, also, for the waaaay sweet card.  you have amazing timing.
did you know that?  i got that card right when i needed it most.  thank you,
again for your sweet thoughtfulness.

kate

Kate,

glad to hear you mom is settling in at the convalescent  hospital nicely.

Will be keeping your dad in my prayers for his surgery and recovery. It is
good he will go to the same hospital as your mom.

I am sorry to hear you backsliding or your back sliding, which ever the case
may be. Sorry I know it is not funny, but after the stressful week I have
had, I am not really here.

I sure hope they will find something that will help you out. I feel for you.
I can't imagine what you are going thru with this back like this.

Hey it is ok to whine and we have some lovely sharp cheddar cheese to go
with that.
I know you too well Kate and I know you are thinking of your folks even when
you are whining. ;-) We all need to get stuff off our chest and what better
way to do so than here. We are here for that even if we can't perform a
miracle for you. We do have broad shoulders for some crying on. ;-)

Just make sure they are not heavy tears though. ;-) Anyways right now, my
rotator cuffs are a big mess right now.

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  Love and hugs Jo

   (\__/)  .~    ~. ))
  /O O  ./      .'
 {O__,   \    {
   / .  . )    \
   |-| '-' \    } ))      Warning: squirrels.
  .(   _(   )_.'
 '---.~_ _ _&

> mom's settling in the convalescent hospital ok, so far.  she has a roomie
> whose a bit of a frightful old grouchy-poo, but she doesn't seem to phase
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>
> kate
Squirrely - 11 Mar 2007 05:44 GMT
Kate,

Your welcome about the card. Yeah I did catch that punny. I don't know about
me having perfect timing, I think it is the man upstairs that does that one.

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  Love and hugs Jo

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  /O O  ./      .'
 {O__,   \    {
   / .  . )    \
   |-| '-' \    } ))      Warning: squirrels.
  .(   _(   )_.'
 '---.~_ _ _&

> you caught that, eh?lol  i meant it as a sly p/f-unny.  thanks, sweetie.
> i'm sorry your shoulders are bugging you, hon.  that doesn't sound fun at
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>
> kate
Kelly - 11 Mar 2007 00:11 GMT
Hi Kate,
I wish news was better.  It is so hard to be in that sandwich generation -
we are there with my father in law and mother in law.  My mil is 92 and my
father in law is 86 and she is the caregiver.  It is getting harder and
harder and they really don't want a lot of help.  I try to leave as much of
it to my husband and his two sisters as I can't do much physically or
mentally.  this week I at least don't have to feel guilty.  Thank goodness
they will be in the same convalescent hospital - that is getting rare here
(in BC).

As for the spinal injections wearing off do go see the pain doctor.  I am
now on demerol as it is the only thing that does not give me rash and
vomiting and it works.  I use it sparingly.  I am also on gabapentin and
Keppra for the neurological pain and they work amazingly.  Sometimes the
antidepressants work well for chronic pain - have they tried those on you?
Again trial and error seems to be the answer there.  Hopefully he will have
some suggestions.

In the meantime I have something for you that I will try to get in the mail
by Monday.  Have been holding onto it so it is a bit old - you will
understand when you see it (no it is not chocolate - that would never get
old in this house).  I bought it thinking of you and did not get around to
sending it.

Gentle hugs - thinking of you.  One of these days when I feel well enough to
get to Seattle without my family we are going to get together - maybe I can
drive Carole down or we can meet part way.  In the meantime I might be
meeting with Mary and Joe if it works out.  I am so scared of packing too
much into this trip but would be fun to meet both of them.

Take care of yourself.  You are really important to this group!

Kelly

> mom's settling in the convalescent hospital ok, so far.  she has a roomie
> whose a bit of a frightful old grouchy-poo, but she doesn't seem to phase
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>
> kate
Carole - 11 Mar 2007 01:45 GMT
> Gentle hugs - thinking of you.  One of these days when I feel well enough to
> get to Seattle without my family we are going to get together - maybe I can
> drive Carole down or we can meet part way.  In the meantime I might be
> meeting with Mary and Joe if it works out.  I am so scared of packing too
> much into this trip but would be fun to meet both of them.

That would be fun. If you could drive to me, I could drive us down to
Seattle or perhaps somewhere north of Seattle so we don't get into all
that icky traffic :-)  I'm so glad I moved up to Bellingham where you
can still drive from one place to another without getting into bumper to
bumper traffic.

Today has been gray and rainy, so I just made a nice dish of macaroni
and cheese (the way Mom used to make it). I'm just waiting for the oven
timer to go off and tell me it's all done :-))

Carole
Kelly - 11 Mar 2007 05:21 GMT
I had toast and poached eggs for comfort food today Carole - this rain is so
depressing even the dog doesn't want to go outside - I am bribing him with
cookies.

I am so uncomfortable - the shingle rash is now large, purple in colour and
itchy as hell.  I am being careful not to irritate or scratch it and it is
starting to scab a bit so that is good.  I am running a fever tonight though
so will have to watch that.  I phoned my mom and told her it wasn't my turn
for anything else - this sucked.  Her neighbor who is a great friend of hers
asked if I was paying for any sins my entire family and extended family had
ever done as she couldn't imagine that I had ever been this wicked.  Made me
laugh.  I told Margo that in fact the deal was I was standing in the disease
return line and hadn't realized it was really the disease line - I had read
the sign wrong.

Anyhow off to bed.  Can't sit any longer. And I think we should meet well
north of Seattle - maybe in Mt. Vernon or somewhere.  I could drive you
there or drive Kate up.  would be fun.  Have to wait until after the rituxan
etc. though. Something to look forward to.

Kelly

>> Gentle hugs - thinking of you.  One of these days when I feel well enough
>> to get to Seattle without my family we are going to get together - maybe
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>
> Carole
Carole - 11 Mar 2007 18:53 GMT
Hey Kelly,

Mt Vernon would be good. There are a lot of places to go for lunch there.

I've never had shingles (thank god!) but when I was a teacher, my dept
head had them and I know what she went through. So I really do feel for
you.  Are you getting vitamin B shots?  That's what she got and they
seemed to help.

Hope you had a good sleepy. One thing I love about retirement is that I
no longer lose an hour sleep for daylight savings time...I just stay in
bed longer :-)

Gentle hugs,
Carole

> I had toast and poached eggs for comfort food today Carole - this rain is so
> depressing even the dog doesn't want to go outside - I am bribing him with
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>
> Kelly
 
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