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Harvey R. Stone - 05 Mar 2007 14:56 GMT
Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
polar cap for the same  reason.  Those people on Mars should be using wind
power to make their ele. and stop driving those suv's.
  Oooh, never mind,,,, I am just crabby because of the latest flare, I seem
to be having where almost everything hurts and its hard to get out of my
water bed in the morning.   Already had two Aleve and now going for the
prednisone and a Enbrel shot.  Got to put a stop to this if I can.   We
forget soooooo quick how painful a flare is and how a person just can not
comb their hair or other things due to the pain on our shoulders.  So it
goes with RA,,,,, again.

Harv

ps   whine, whine
Jean - 05 Mar 2007 16:09 GMT
I hear that whine Harv and if you open your windows, you'll hear mine.
Houston is NOT a good place to be if you have RA/OA.  It's 80 one day and 30
the next.  I hate to say this but I'll be (almost) glad when summer gets
here and it's 95 with 95% humidity!!  LOL!

Jean

>  Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
> global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
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>
> ps   whine, whine
GARY Z - 05 Mar 2007 16:17 GMT
>  Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
> global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
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>
> ps   whine, whine

Sorry to hear about your flare Harv. Didn't you start an antib regimen? Did
it not work?
Hoping you feel better real soon.
GaryZ
Harvey R. Stone - 05 Mar 2007 23:54 GMT
> Sorry to hear about your flare Harv. Didn't you start an antib regimen?
> Did it not work?
> Hoping you feel better real soon.
> GaryZ

Hi Gary,   I really do not know.   I would say though that it has not had
enough time to be a real test.
thanks
Harv
Cindy - 05 Mar 2007 17:11 GMT
Harv, Sending gentle hugs and lots of prayers...
I think when the weather is roller coastering...that is the worst for me in
regards to flares...
And that is what we have had the last couple of weeks...up and down up and
down...
I think I just slept crooked on my neck and shoulder last night...I am glad
not to have RA on top of everything else...Lots of hugs and prayers
Cindy
>   Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
> global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
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>
> ps   whine, whine
KJ - 05 Mar 2007 19:36 GMT
{{{{{{{{{Harv}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Passing you some cheese to go with that whine! Hope that flare is
under control soonest!

~KJ
Harvey R. Stone - 05 Mar 2007 23:57 GMT
> {{{{{{{{{Harv}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
> Passing you some cheese to go with that whine! Hope that flare is
> under control soonest!
>
> ~KJ

Thanks KJ,,,, all the best for you and yours.
Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 05 Mar 2007 23:56 GMT
> Harv, Sending gentle hugs and lots of prayers...
> I think when the weather is roller coastering...that is the worst for me
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> not to have RA on top of everything else...Lots of hugs and prayers
> Cindy

Thanks Cindy,,, I need all the help I can get.   What has me really upset is
the burn in my left hip.   It has been years since I felt that and it is the
reason I dug out the prednisone.
Harv
Kelly - 05 Mar 2007 20:25 GMT
gentle hugs Harvey.

Kelly

>  Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
> global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
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>
> ps   whine, whine
Harvey R. Stone - 05 Mar 2007 23:58 GMT
> gentle hugs Harvey.
>
> Kelly

thanks Kelly,,,, those are the only hugs I can use.
Harv
Diane - 06 Mar 2007 00:17 GMT
harv, back when i was on the antibiotic protocol (1995), people were
expected to have major flares. it was called the herxheimer reaction
or "herxing." do they still talk about that?

diane
Kelly - 06 Mar 2007 01:15 GMT
http://www.roadback.org/

I know this site has been mentioned before and they do sell their books etc
(no I have no emotional or monetary interest in the group) but they do talk
about the herxheimer reaction and offer information Harvey.  They definitely
talk about that and the generic minocycline vs non generic as well as a few
other things.  Might be worth trying to find some information there.

In the meantime try to ride it out and see if it helps.  I do remember it
takes time for it to work and in my rd's opinion it works best on mild
cases.  Hang in there Harvey - thinking of you.

Kelly

> harv, back when i was on the antibiotic protocol (1995), people were
> expected to have major flares. it was called the herxheimer reaction
> or "herxing." do they still talk about that?
>
> diane
Harvey R. Stone - 06 Mar 2007 04:17 GMT
> http://www.roadback.org/
>
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>
> Kelly

:-)  I am sure that if I contacted that site,,,,, they would say,,,,, we
have been waiting for you.....  LOLOL  I have not been too kind to that site
for the selling of information to help people.   So it goes.  Thanks for the
thought Kelly..
Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 06 Mar 2007 04:13 GMT
> harv, back when i was on the antibiotic protocol (1995), people were
> expected to have major flares. it was called the herxheimer reaction
> or "herxing." do they still talk about that?
>
> diane

Hhhhm, what a good memory you have.  Yes, I remember some of that and it
makes me wonder why my RD did not talk to me about it.   I am sure that this
was with Tetracyclene(sp) and I do not take that.  I take Minocycline which
is not suppose to have the skin changing color but it still has the sun
warning.
   I hope I am having a herxheimer reaction and when this is over,,,,,
maybe things will be better.  Thanks for the thought from the past.
Harv
RhondaM - 06 Mar 2007 00:18 GMT
Man Harv.. you sure know how to flare.. you are better at it than I am. Stop
it.
Seriously take it easy and I hope you can get some relief soon. I hear you
about that darn weather would it make up its mind! Yesterday its 50
something today its 70. My body doesnt like this change. I know yours doesnt
either.
Are you still playing that xbox? Let me know how you are doing on it.
(((((((((((((Really Gentle hugs))))))))))))))
RhondaM
>  Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
> global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
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>
> ps   whine, whine
Harvey R. Stone - 06 Mar 2007 04:29 GMT
> Man Harv.. you sure know how to flare.. you are better at it than I am.
> Stop it.
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> (((((((((((((Really Gentle hugs))))))))))))))
> RhondaM

Yes, and I am very pleased with it.   I do not warm it up every day but
almost.
It makes me wish all my 4 kids were small again so they could beat me using
it like they used to.   We started with the first pong game when they first
came out and moved up to different things as they came out over the years.
  When I turn the X box off,,,, it is very quiet back there in the tv room
for awhile.  It is such a jump from computer games to the 360.   The price
of games has gone wayyyy up also but I can buy used ones down at the game
shop or trade for different ones.   I am just an over grown kid I guess but
aren't we all still a kid on the inside????   :-)
Harv
RhondaM - 06 Mar 2007 06:07 GMT
I think we have every game system under the sun..for some reason my kids
think we have to have everyone of them..I havent broke down and got the 360
yet or the PS3, or nintendo wii...too expensive. The used game thing is
great we find some pretty good games for very very cheap at the local game
exchange place.

>> Man Harv.. you sure know how to flare.. you are better at it than I am.
>> Stop it.
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> but aren't we all still a kid on the inside????   :-)
> Harv
Fire Chief - 06 Mar 2007 04:43 GMT
Harv wrote:

>   Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.

 In the 80's around here Monday.

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Squirrely - 06 Mar 2007 06:16 GMT
Harv,

Sorry to hear you are flaring so badly. I hope it is over quickly and that
your antib treatments help you greatly and soon. Sending positive vibes and
prayers your way.

{{{{Harv}}}} and heating vibes.

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>  Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
> global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
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>
> ps   whine, whine
vickie b. - 06 Mar 2007 11:33 GMT
(((((harvey)))))

I know just what you mean.

love and prayers,

Vickie B.
also in houston
Thumper - 07 Mar 2007 21:50 GMT
>  Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
>global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>ps   whine, whine

I thought you were in remission Harv.

Last week I flared big time also.  I limped into my chiropractor's
office for a scheduled appointment and couldn't get out of the chair
in the waiting room when called until he came over and helped me
stand.  My knees, ankles, achilles tendons  and feet felt like they
were in a cider press and my hands would only close halfway.  My
shoulders were only tolerable when sitting in a chair with the right
sized arm rests.

I started a prednisone burst and took my Humira shot the next day and
can now stand and close my hands a little more. I think it helped
about 20%.  I'll see the doc Friday and tell him I need some help.
It's not only a flare for me.  I stopped Prednisone about 2 months ago
and was taking only Humira and Methotrexate.  It still didn't do the
trick so we switched from Metho to Arava which hasn't kicked in yet
(if ever).  It appears  that the constant rash I've had for the past
few years may have been caused by the Methotrexate.  It's been
clearing up since I got off it except for a 24 hour flare up the day
after I take the Humira.

Every day is an adventure with this disease.  I think I'll go to
Remicade if the Arava doesn't do the trick with the Humira.

I hope you feel better.
Thumper
Harvey R. Stone - 08 Mar 2007 01:25 GMT
>>  Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
>>global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
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>>
> I thought you were in remission Harv.

Welllll, ya knnow how remissions go,,,,, sometimes quickly.

> Last week I flared big time also.  I limped into my chiropractor's
> office for a scheduled appointment and couldn't get out of the chair
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> clearing up since I got off it except for a 24 hour flare up the day
> after I take the Humira.

I hope you took the starter dose with the Arava.   If not,,, it takes quite
awhile for it to kick in,,, if it does.

> Every day is an adventure with this disease.  I think I'll go to
> Remicade if the Arava doesn't do the trick with the Humira.
>
> I hope you feel better.
> Thumper

That's the way to do it....  Make choices and be dam glad we have them.   It
is all about control and whatever it takes to get it.   Good luck with it
all Thumper,,, the prednisone has me OK for now and we shall see what
tomorrow brings.

Harv
Jay Smith - 08 Mar 2007 11:57 GMT
>>>  Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
>>>global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
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>I hope you took the starter dose with the Arava.   If not,,, it takes quite
>awhile for it to kick in,,, if it does.

No I didn't and I'm going to see my RD tomorrow.  I'll ask him about
it.  What is a starter dose?
Thumper

>> Every day is an adventure with this disease.  I think I'll go to
>> Remicade if the Arava doesn't do the trick with the Humira.
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>
>Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 08 Mar 2007 12:46 GMT
>>I hope you took the starter dose with the Arava.   If not,,, it takes
>>quite
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> it.  What is a starter dose?
> Thumper

It is what your RD says it is and if it is needed in your case.   It has
something to do with a couple of 100 mg doses.    I do not remember now but
your RD will.
Harv

Ps  Arava comes in two doooose sizes  which one do you take?
Thumper - 08 Mar 2007 18:53 GMT
>>>I hope you took the starter dose with the Arava.   If not,,, it takes
>>>quite
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>
>Ps  Arava comes in two doooose sizes  which one do you take?

20mg.  I just found online that an initiation dose is a 100mg tablet
once a day for 3 days.  I'll ask him why we didn't try that.  Maybe
it's not too late.  I'm getting sick of these 2 month waits to see
results.  I've been miserable since I got off Prednisone about 5 weeks
ago.
Thumper
Paul T. Holland - 07 Mar 2007 23:12 GMT
harv - hang in there

'air hug' 'cause my shoulders won't take the movement <g>

>   Here it is the 5th of March and it was in the 30's around Houston.  This
> global warming is hellllll.  Strange that Mars is loooosing some of its
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>
> ps   whine, whine
Nann Bell - 08 Mar 2007 14:43 GMT
(((((((((((((((((((Harv))))))))))))))))))
I hear ya, I hear ya.  We've had the strangest winter up here, too.  Very
warm Dec & Jan, COLD and snowy Feb, now they're talking 40s next week,
meaning massive melting and mess.  Luckily for me, my aches are a fibro flare
rather than arthritis and I'm hoping going back to massages will help there.  
But the weather has been affecting everyone around here, too.

I hope you catch a break from your flare soon.

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Harvey R. Stone - 08 Mar 2007 17:31 GMT
> I hope you catch a break from your flare soon.

thanks Nann,,,,  it is better but I am also taking prednisone each day and
in my world, it is not over until pred is not needed.
Harv
Bob - 14 Mar 2007 19:28 GMT
................

> Harv
>
> ps   whine, whine

I hear you Harv.  I just got back from a trip to the Carolinas.  My aunt
passed away and I also needed to visit my elderly parents.  The weather was
beautiful but those cold nights gave me fits.  Fortunately I am on Arava
and the pains were confined to my hands and fingers.  Perhaps a bit of a
reminder so that I don't forget what it feels like.  

I have whined here too and everyone has listened and understood.
Harvey R. Stone - 15 Mar 2007 13:47 GMT
> ................
>>
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>
> I have whined here too and everyone has listened and understood.

Hi Bud,   I hope your parents were well and happy and that yours is just a
minney flare from the stress of travel.   I just got through a little test
to see if Arava would give me acid reflux again and it did not.   You can
buy it now in a generic form at a good price.   I stopped it to try the
anti-biotic protocol and will go back to it if the anti-bio does not do the
job.
    Spend all the time you can with your parents and remember the good
times with them.   The good Lord does not promise us even one more day on
this earth and the day will come when they are not with you anymore.   Both
mine are gone and have been for a long time and are missed.
So it goes.
Harv
 
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