Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / February 2007
OTP: how to find help for sister--long, sorry
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Diane - 31 Jan 2007 18:45 GMT Boy, there are a lot of annoying spammy kind of messages lately!
I'm looking for suggestions here. My brother-in-law is still alive, but deteriorating quickly and hospice is involved. He and my sister also have a 24 hour aide which is a real God-send. My siblings and I, though, are trying to figure out how to help my sister, who is 63, after her husband dies. If you recall, she has severe MS. she uses a scooter for everything. she can drive a special van. she can't walk at all and has some limitation in the use of her arms and hands. her brain is very, very sharp.
She lives in a one story home that ideally, she would love to stay in, but that may be impossible. After her husband dies, she'll keep the aide for a couple of months as she figures out what to do. She does not require medical care at this time, but needs some "mobility support "(getting into bed, preparing a meal, cutting food, reaching stuff on higher / lower shelves... etc.), that sort of thing. does anyone know what sort of service she needs and where we should look? she's exploring adult residential communities that have lots of activities--she is still so vibrant--but she has a real fear of being alone--which she would be at night in her apartment in such a community. some of it's realistic (fear of falling), some of it is emotional (she's always been afraid of being alone). We've even considered my older brother moving in with her, but that would require him to retire from his job and leave the community he loves which is an hour away from her. we've also considered having her move down here to NC (she's in New Jersey) so she'd be close to me, but i'm afraid that if I die (you never know. . . ) then she's stuck here, away from her son and granddaughter. living with son is not an option. (house is inaccessible).
anyhow, sorry to ramble, but i thought you all might have some ideas. i lie awake at night worrying about this!
diane
Alice Faber - 31 Jan 2007 19:11 GMT > Boy, there are a lot of annoying spammy kind of messages lately! > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > her son and granddaughter. living with son is not an option. (house is > inaccessible). My parents live in a retirement community in rural Connecticut that has a range of accomodations from independent cottage to apartment to room (senior dorm?). Since they're in a cottage, they have a kitchen, but they could also eat in the dining room, and do for some meals. Even though they're in the most independent of the living options, they *must* get their mail in the main building and if they don't (and haven't told staff they'll be away) someone will check on them. There are panic buttons in the bathrooms, and probably other ways the "call for help" could be made. Their place is quite affordable (no "luxury amenities") and quite pleasant.
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 31 Jan 2007 19:21 GMT > Boy, there are a lot of annoying spammy kind of messages lately! > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > diane Wow, alot going on there. Saying a quick prayer for your sister, you and her extended family.
Has she gone to the local "Welfare" office? There are adult programs that are offered by the state (and in Colorado) those are generally at the Department of Human Services. Perhaps looking for Adult Services in the yellow pages? The "welfare office" should also have a list of other places that can assist people.
There is a community here that has "apartments" within the main building (with 24 hour staff) and then 'condos' around the main building where people can have some autonomy (sp?). Perhaps there is something like that in her area?
She can also call the local hospital (or have the aide do it) and ask if they are aware of any home health aides (they come in and clean, cook meals, help the person with personal care). My mom used to do that when we lived in Maine. Not sure what the cost would be for that.
Maybe ask someone from the Hospice if they are aware any programs that can get her companionship care? I cannot for the life of me remember what it's called, but there is a program here that pays for assisted living type care for those who just need a little help with the day-to- day stuff (non-medical care).
Smokie Darling (Annie) - hoping someone else has better options than I've provided
Cindy - 01 Feb 2007 00:51 GMT Another suggestion, if she has friends that maybe looking for a "roomate" who would be willing to help her prepare her meals, house chores and mobilty issues...while providing company in exchange for room and board...thus allowing her to stay in her home... I don't mean "hiring" a stranger...but rather a friend or relative that also doesn't want to be alone and has a need for companionship...
My aunt had moved into an apartment that was small and had nursing support if needed with emergency call buttons in each room...Sort of like Annie said... But I don't think it was equiped to take care of someone with as many needs as your Sister...
Sending prayers for her and your family... Hugs Cindy
> Boy, there are a lot of annoying spammy kind of messages lately! > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > diane Adelle - 01 Feb 2007 02:34 GMT > Boy, there are a lot of annoying spammy kind of messages lately! > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > diane Diane,
So sorry to hear all this. Sending hugs to all. With hospice involved with the family, a hospice social worker should be able to help your sister identify all the agencies/programs in the area which support independent living, etc. They might also have info on supported living facilities.
Is your sister eligible for subsidized handicapped housing? My SIL is in one in Rochester, NY. Depending on family income (especially if there is no pension and no equity in her home), she should be eligible for some state funded programs.
Lastly, there is also the option my mom and sister took - they sold both there homes and moved into a much larger place together. Son and grand daughter might consider that option.
Adelle
Becky - 01 Feb 2007 03:29 GMT Diane, Don't really have a lot of advice on the situation but just wanted to say that I will keep your family in my prayers and hope for this to work out for you all. I know that a few have mentioned a community apartment, we have that here and they get assisted in certain areas, but it is very expensive here so not sure how much that costs out there, is also a program here called Visiting Angels, and they help people come into the home and I have a friend that works for a place that puts people in homes to help this sort of thing, I am not sure what it is called, but maybe a hospice or the local hospital could give you some information, Good luck Becky
> Boy, there are a lot of annoying spammy kind of messages lately! > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > diane d'huit - 01 Feb 2007 17:34 GMT sigh . . . ((((((((((((((((diane and family)))))))))))))) what a sad and difficult situation. my heart goes out to you and your sister. i wish i knew the answer, sweetie.
new jersey's home care resources, her local senior center, her local MS association chapter (which might or might not fall under the blanket of a larger charity organization) and medicare might be things to check out for the kind of assistance your sister needs. maybe check for an MS newsgroup, hopefully with members in new jersey, that might have some resource info to offer?
kate
Boy, there are a lot of annoying spammy kind of messages lately!
I'm looking for suggestions here. My brother-in-law is still alive, but deteriorating quickly and hospice is involved. He and my sister also have a 24 hour aide which is a real God-send. My siblings and I, though, are trying to figure out how to help my sister, who is 63, after her husband dies. If you recall, she has severe MS. she uses a scooter for everything. she can drive a special van. she can't walk at all and has some limitation in the use of her arms and hands. her brain is very, very sharp.
She lives in a one story home that ideally, she would love to stay in, but that may be impossible. After her husband dies, she'll keep the aide for a couple of months as she figures out what to do. She does not require medical care at this time, but needs some "mobility support "(getting into bed, preparing a meal, cutting food, reaching stuff on higher / lower shelves... etc.), that sort of thing. does anyone know what sort of service she needs and where we should look? she's exploring adult residential communities that have lots of activities--she is still so vibrant--but she has a real fear of being alone--which she would be at night in her apartment in such a community. some of it's realistic (fear of falling), some of it is emotional (she's always been afraid of being alone). We've even considered my older brother moving in with her, but that would require him to retire from his job and leave the community he loves which is an hour away from her. we've also considered having her move down here to NC (she's in New Jersey) so she'd be close to me, but i'm afraid that if I die (you never know. . . ) then she's stuck here, away from her son and granddaughter. living with son is not an option. (house is inaccessible).
anyhow, sorry to ramble, but i thought you all might have some ideas. i lie awake at night worrying about this!
diane
Diane - 01 Feb 2007 18:29 GMT thank you for all these thoughtful suggestions! i'm making a list of them. unfortunately (or fortunately) she has enough money that she won't qualify for much (she is on SS disability however), but not enough money to keep paying a full time aide. i would be absolutely wonderful if she could live with her son's family, but that would mean them buying a new house and completely changing their lives--a lot to ask. we'll explore all options, and you've all given me food for thought.
thanks again,
diane
spodosaurus - 01 Feb 2007 18:39 GMT > thank you for all these thoughtful suggestions! i'm making a list of > them. unfortunately (or fortunately) she has enough money that she [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > diane I don't know that it's a lot to ask. We bought a new house and rearranged our lives recently for our first child. I also have always been aware that in time I may find myself in a position to do something similar for my mother and mother-in-law as they did for me and my wife all those decades ago.
I wonder if it won't come to all that, though. Houses can be modified fairly well to accommodate persons with disabilities. I'm assuming her son's house would need something beyond this, though, like an extra bedroom, an extensive wheelchair ramp, bathroom remodeling and modification, heck, maybe even one of those wheelchair elevators. Then again, all this is vastly less expensive than buying a new home. If their yard is large enough, then there may only be need of partial modification: adding a "granny flat" and covered walkway to the main house and a downstairs bathroom with shower/bath. Less expansive still, and much less disruptive than moving house.
Regards,
Ari
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Diane - 01 Feb 2007 20:48 GMT ari, it's a wonderful idea and i wish wish wish it could happen. however, her son and his wife have not even mentioned it and probably haven't considered it. his wife is a total doll and has helped my sister tremendously, and her son is. . . well, a sweetie but not the greatest in knowing how to help. here's the rub: the wife's mother has huntington's chorea. how did these two young people with severely disabled moms ever manage to find each other? i truly don't know if they've thought of taking one of their moms in, but even if they did, which would they choose? (sadly, the wife, age 44, has the HC gene, but no symptoms yet).
diane, with a messy but very nice family
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