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OTP: Who is in Australia?
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Fire Chief - 10 Jan 2007 21:35 GMT From: "Alan Erskine" Newsgroups: alt.firefighters, alt.wildland.firefighting Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 Subject: Victorian Fires Update - 07-01-08
Fires in Eastern Victoria have now burned (2,230,904 acres) since being started by lightening strikes at the beginning of December.
-- Alan Erskine
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From: "Alan Erskine" Newsgroups: alt.firefighters, alt.wildland.firefighting Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 Subject: Victorian Fires Update - 07-01-09
Temperatures are expected to soar into the high 30's and low 40's (100+ F) in the next two days, with the possibility of strong winds. Visibility in Melbourne, normally up to 60km, was just 3km today due to smoke from fires over 250km away.
-- Alan Erskine
Sanchona - 13 Jan 2007 13:44 GMT I'm in Australia, but I'm in Sydney, New South Wales. With the drought biting so hard after so many years without rain, the situation is really critical. (I save my laundry water to water my plants). Although Victoria is having it bad with the bushfires, it is slightly better in New South Wales. Still, we have 2 more months to ride out the summer heat! But some days it has been cool -- a breather. The weather is really "unpredictable". And weather north of the equator is not much better, is it? When are our politicians going to get serious about global warming???
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> From: "Alan Erskine" > Newsgroups: alt.firefighters, alt.wildland.firefighting [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > -- > Alan Erskine Joan Carter - 13 Jan 2007 18:22 GMT >When are our politicians going to get serious about global warming??? About the same time ours here in Canada are. When they're driven screaming and kicking to do it. --- Joan
zena - 14 Jan 2007 11:09 GMT i live in canberra, and for the past 6 weeks, I have been suffering from the smokes coming from victoria and neighbouring NSW borders. I have asthma and emyhsema. On Friday, the temperature reached 40 degrees. I thought that was it, I was going to die. Saturday night was mad, cold wind we had to close all windows. today was tolelarable. I also suffer from arthritis, osteoarthritis, poor circulation, high blood pressure and cholestrol. In summer I am ok with these symtoms, but I suffer from the bloody bushfires and i can't do anything during this period. We have bad smokes coming from Victoria on Monday and tuesday and then later on we had smokes coming from cooma and lake george. It is never ending. On the subject of water, we are a family of 5 and in the summer we need showers everday. the water bill keeps sky rocketing every year. I save the water from the dishes and use it for the flowers. Over the past 5 years I have lost all my plants except for the roses who seem to want to stay there. As for Victoria, I really feel bad for them and especially the firefighters who have been there since December. Thanks to you guys for saving lives and properties. we love you dearly.our politicians just started now after years of drought to consider other options. We are so far behind, the world is behind in saving the planet, yet they kill everyone to get their hands on OIL. STUFF YOU LEADERS.
> I'm in Australia, but I'm in Sydney, New South Wales. With the drought > biting so hard after so many years without rain, the situation is really [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > -- > > Alan Erskine spodosaurus - 14 Jan 2007 11:27 GMT > i live in canberra, and for the past 6 weeks, I have been suffering > from the smokes coming from victoria and neighbouring NSW borders. I [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > planet, yet they kill everyone to get their hands on OIL. STUFF YOU > LEADERS. WA here (Perth) and our summer has been crazy. From warm to cold and wintery and now very hot (42 today). We haven't had terrible bush fires yet, and we're in a suburb removed from bushland, but when the fires do happen our area is blanketed in smoke that just seems to form a pocket and takes a long time to dissipate.
At least this year they've extended the sprinkler ban to certain days of the week for bore owners as well in order to reduce the drain on the water table. I'm not sure if the reservoir and the bore water tables even effect each other, though, so this may be a not so good thing. They might have done this so there's no need to spend the money on extra enforcement where people running bores were getting fined as well as people breaking the sprinkler ban, and then having to use more man hours to weed out the two groups.
Ari
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GARY Z - 14 Jan 2007 13:21 GMT > At least this year they've extended the sprinkler ban to certain days of > the week for bore owners as well in order to reduce the drain on the water [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Ari Hi Ari, Is this an el nino thing? I read yesterday that the forecasters believe it has peaked and will now start to dissipate. Things should get back to normal some. Who knows what effect low-term drought has on weather though. I'm no weather man, but I play one on tv! (Was a weather person in the Navy so I have some rudimentary knowledge.) I also read where global warming is supposed to cause our deserts to expand here. Living in the northern country, I personally have welcomed the warmer winters. Doc said yesterday though he wished for some freezing temps to kill some of the germs going around. They have been unusually buried with troubles this year. GaryZ
Nann Bell - 15 Jan 2007 14:54 GMT > Hi Ari, > Is this an el nino thing? I read yesterday that the forecasters believe it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > around. They have been unusually buried with troubles this year. > GaryZ I know it seems like every kind of crud is going around up here and at my mom's in FLorida we had 2 or 3 viruses in the house. I'm still trying to get over this nasty one that my mom's doc says "pretends it's the flu". I had a real scare for about 12 hours when my fever was 101.7 and didn't respond to tylenol. We were set to call the doc in the morning, but it finally came down.
It seems too that a lot of folks have had major health things happen over the past month. I'm beginning to wonder if this weird weather completely throws off our bodies.
well, the tip of the mitt finally got some snow last night and we're finally predicted to stay below freezing all week - weather we should have had for the past month. STill, southern Michigan had more snow than we did and the upper peninsula got almost none. sigh...... we still want to snow shoe at the falls this winter - winter must arrive up there some time - it was a dry summer for them and they need winter moisture.
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Plantmistress - 15 Jan 2007 15:50 GMT It has been raining & warm here in TN. My daffodils are coming up out of the ground - it is waaaay too early.
We have a cold front moving through today, which should wreak all kinds of havoc, since it has been raining for the past 3 days - we will probably get iced in. Fun, fun.
I am hoping that the freeze will kill off all the germs, though - everyone in my office has been sick, including me. I don't want to spend any more time off my Humira this winter - it hurts too much.
Shannnon
spodosaurus - 15 Jan 2007 15:52 GMT >> At least this year they've extended the sprinkler ban to certain days of >> the week for bore owners as well in order to reduce the drain on the water [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hi Ari, > Is this an el nino thing? Seems like a global warming thing. Not to open the kettle of worms regarding the 20k year cycle theory of temperature fluctuations or carbon emissions as being the source.
Australia's weather is generally becoming warmer and drier, like we needed that! This is on average, so in Perth we may not be getting the more severe heat waves, but our winters are not as cold, bringing the average up.
The weather is just odd, and each year it gets more unusual from the way this place has been since colonisation.
> I read yesterday that the forecasters believe it > has peaked and will now start to dissipate. Things should get back to normal > some. Who knows what effect low-term drought has on weather though. I'm no > weather man, but I play one on tv! (Was a weather person in the Navy so I > have some rudimentary knowledge.) The drought is destroying our farming communities over east.
> I also read where global warming is > supposed to cause our deserts to expand here. Living in the northern > country, I personally have welcomed the warmer winters. Doc said yesterday > though he wished for some freezing temps to kill some of the germs going > around. They have been unusually buried with troubles this year. Climate change is going to make a lot of changes all across the ecosystem, including microorganisms. We're already fighting a lot of man made environmental damage in Australia (salinity, etc) without having climate change to really stick the boot in. The Australian ecosystems are more fragile than people might expect, due in part to the long evolutionary isolation of this continent.
Regards,
Ari
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Lyn - 14 Jan 2007 17:58 GMT WA here (Perth) and our summer has been crazy. From warm to cold and wintery and now very hot (42 today). We haven't had terrible bush fires yet, and we're in a suburb removed from bushland, but when the fires do happen our area is blanketed in smoke that just seems to form a pocket and takes a long time to dissipate.
> At least this year they've extended the sprinkler ban to certain days > of the week for bore owners as well in order to reduce the drain on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > sent an article regarding a desalinization plant being built by > Kwinana. Should help eventually. Lyn
Fire Chief - 18 Jan 2007 20:50 GMT > WA here (Perth) and our summer has been crazy. Lyn, I thought you were in Tucson, Arizona.
Is there another "Lyn" in the group? <g>
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Lyn - 19 Jan 2007 00:08 GMT > Lyn, I thought you were in Tucson, Arizona. > > Is there another "Lyn" in the group? <g> > >... As American as English muffins and French toast. > Just like to confuse the issue when ever possible. Yes, I live here in Tucson, but I am from Perth, Western Australia. My family is in Australia, just my husband's family here. Sometimes I don't know where I belong.
Lyn
GARY Z - 19 Jan 2007 12:16 GMT You belong in asa! GaryZ
>> Lyn, I thought you were in Tucson, Arizona. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lyn Lyn - 20 Jan 2007 17:26 GMT >You belong in asa! >GaryZ > > Good answer. Thanks.
Lyn
Fire Chief - 14 Jan 2007 19:37 GMT > I have asthma and emyhsema. Funny how you never mentioned that when you spammed the group 2 months ago with your supplement crap.
Tues, Nov 7 2006 2:13 am
Hi friends
A few months ago, I closed down my business due to several reasons. The major reason that I could not longer physically operate it. I have been diagnosed with arthritis first and then osteoarthritis.
... Why don't you sue your brain for non-support?
Sanchona - 18 Jan 2007 03:12 GMT As it has been said in "A Few Good Men" about marines standing guard for the people, I'm glad we have you to stand guard against the spammers. Reminds me of Larry too. Thanks.
> > I have asthma and emyhsema. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > ... Why don't you sue your brain for non-support?
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