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Donna G. - 25 Nov 2006 09:19 GMT Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful day!
Was sitting doing some paperwork this afternoon, (as that was about all I could handle for the day after spending a wonderful thanksgiving day with 2 of my brothers and their families as well as my parents, and rolling around on the floor playing with nieces and nephews! Getting too old to be doing that, but it is fun while you are doing it.) Just got to pay the piper afterwards with the aches and pains.
In any case, like I said, was sitting doing some paperwork and all of a sudden sneezed rather hard and "pop" went my back and then major pain! Owwwwwieeee!!! Went and laid down for a bit, but just couldn't seem to get comfortable. Kept feeling like I was laying on top of a golf ball or something. As the day progressed, I started experiencing some burning pain in my left butt cheek and down into my upper thigh, which changed to numbness in the lower part of the leg. The burning sensation was/is really really uncomfortable though. Worse than dealing with just plain pain. Called my pcp and he rx'd skelaxin and told me to use my vicodin. Later in the evening he called back to check on things and told him about the burning and numbness and he sent me to the ER. ER called in a ?physical medicine doctor to see me, who is sending me for an MRI on wednesday, but also gave me some Lyrica as he said that would help considerably with the burning pain which is rom nerve inflammation/irritation. He thinks based on my symptoms and x-rays and his exam that I may have ruptured a disc or two. Now how the heck do you do that just by sneezing? In any case, he also told me he wanted me to do 1/2 hour of bed rest, then 1/2 hour of mild activity, 1/2 hour of bed rest, 1/2 hour of mild activity, etc. for the next few days, with minimal time standing on my feet. I thought that bed rest wasn't good for back injuries and that that was just an old myth?! He said, no, bed rest can have a place in the care of back injuries. Anyone else ever hear of this?
In any case, I do the MRI on wednesday of next week, he is sending me to PT and also talked about sending me to get 2-3 epidural injections for the pain---this will be determined for sure once he has the MRI report and sees me back in 2 weeks. Have never taken the Lyrica before and am wondering what others experiences with it are. When I take the skelaxin, all I want to do is sleep all day, and am worried about the lyrica and what reaction that might have on me. What is everyone elses' experience with this medication???
Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
Carole - 25 Nov 2006 10:39 GMT Donna,
A sneeze can do a lot of things. And yes, I have heard of bedrest for back problems. I was told to do that when I first had my sciatica. I was also told to avoid stairs and stay on flat surfaces. That was difficult since I live on the second floor, but I did my best.
Hang in there! I hope the meds are helping.
Hugs, Carole
> Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful > day! [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call > them FRIENDS...... Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:01 GMT Thanks, Carole, I guess that does make sense. That must have really been hard living in split level housing. Ugggh! . . . btw, how are you feeling now adays? Are you back to eating and drinking normally? Sure hope so! . . .
Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
GARY Z - 25 Nov 2006 10:51 GMT > Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful > day! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > get comfortable. Kept feeling like I was laying on top of a golf ball > or something. Yikes! Donna, You actually made me cringe when I read this! Stop that! (The sneezing I mean)
> I thought that bed rest > wasn't good for back injuries and that that was just an old myth?! He > said, no, bed rest can have a place in the care of back injuries. > Anyone else ever hear of this? When my back starts aching from too much standing/sitting, I lay down on the couch for awhile. It does help me as I think it takes the verticle pressure off the lumbar joints. Can't help with the medication. I've never taken it. GaryZ
> Donna G. > . > . > . > ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call > them FRIENDS...... Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:02 GMT LOL.....ok, Gary, trying not to sneeze anymore! LOLOLOL!!!
Guess it does make sense for the bed rest now that you explain it the way you did. Thanks!!! . . .
Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 25 Nov 2006 12:26 GMT Bed rest all day long = bad. Bed rest the way this doc prescribed it = good. The hard part is the getting up and down from the bed. Be careful not to do that too fast. However, the 1/2 hour laying down removes the pressure of gravity and your upper body from on the disks and the 1/2 hour of mild activity will help keep your back in the functioning mode.
Good grief, Donna. You don't do things by half, do you honey? Take care of yourself and let us know what the tests show when you get them. I've never heard of Lyrica, but I don't even pretend to know all the medications out there.
We love you, DeeTee
> Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful > day! [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call > them FRIENDS...... Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:05 GMT Thanks, DeeTee---really appreciate the way you put that for me! Makes sense!
I'll keep you posted, and you keep us posted about how things turn out for you with the intestinal things they found. Praying it's not your mtx that is causing the problems. But, then again, also praying it is not some autoimmune thing to add to the mix!
Hugs to you and Bob,
Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
Rosemarie Shiver - 25 Nov 2006 13:43 GMT Lyrica is pregabalin and is a med.used by Fibromites. It's for nerve pain and those who use it either like it or find it doesn't work for them. You can get the dizzies on it; a lotta standing is a bad idea when you're first on it.
It's a cousin of the Neurontin many of us take....I know I can't do without my Neurontin. I could take PK's and MR's all day and nite and they'd never touch the nerve pain I have but Neurontin stops it.
The burning pain in butt/thigh is sciatica (nerve) pain.
I haven't been able to get Cush's Bad Backs pages to load...I dunno if he still has them up, but the main thing with disc slippage/ hernia is to baby your back. If you baby it well enuff it can heal up on it's own. I've healed many a slipped disc by taking it very very easy on my back. Don't lift anything more than a pound...you need someone else to lift for ya.
Beats surgery because back surgery is a hit or miss kind of thing. Epidural injections help many...but again, not all.
Try exploring here: http://www.spineuniverse.com.
Baby Your Back Hugs from Rosie
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> > Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call > them FRIENDS...... Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:11 GMT Thanks, Rosie for the site and for the other info. Looks like I definitely have a lot to learn when it comes to the ole back stuff.
Yikes, hoping this isn't going to turn into a regular back problem issue. Don't need that!
As far as not lifting anything more than a pound, well.....my oxygen in its bag weighs about 12 pounds!
One thing that really surprised me about this specialist is that he asked me since I had RA, did I do any aquatics stuff at all. I told him, yes, that I swim and do water aerobics 2x a week and he said I don't want you doing that for a couple of weeks at least. I was very surprised by this and ask him why and he said when you are in the water and bouncing around, the bouyancy of the water can keep you from realizing how much damage you could be doing to the back. I asked him what if I keep from doing the bouncing stuff and he still said no he didn't want me to go to the classes. Weird.
Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
d'huit - 26 Nov 2006 05:25 GMT Thanks, Rosie for the site and for the other info. Looks like I definitely have a lot to learn when it comes to the ole back stuff.
Yikes, hoping this isn't going to turn into a regular back problem issue. Don't need that!
As far as not lifting anything more than a pound, well.....my oxygen in its bag weighs about 12 pounds!
One thing that really surprised me about this specialist is that he asked me since I had RA, did I do any aquatics stuff at all. I told him, yes, that I swim and do water aerobics 2x a week and he said I don't want you doing that for a couple of weeks at least. I was very surprised by this and ask him why and he said when you are in the water and bouncing around, the bouyancy of the water can keep you from realizing how much damage you could be doing to the back. I asked him what if I keep from doing the bouncing stuff and he still said no he didn't want me to go to the classes. Weird.
Donna G.
not weird. makes total sense, hon. water bouyancy shifts/changes your perception of gravity's effects on your body, cuz everything seems and feels easier, until you get back out of the water and feel what you did. since you must carry that 12 pound cylinder, carry and hold it close to your torso to minimize the stress on your back, sweetie.
kate . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
jb - 27 Nov 2006 03:16 GMT I take lyrica for my neuropathy in my feet and for the nerve pain down my leg from the spinal stenosis. it does help me somewhat but i must limit my salt intake as it seems to make my feet and ankles and hands swell. staying off salt helps a little bit. I can only get relief from my back and stenosis pain at times by lying down. janice
| Thanks, Rosie for the site and for the other info. Looks like I | definitely have a lot to learn when it comes to the ole back stuff. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] | ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call | them FRIENDS...... Squirrely - 25 Nov 2006 14:37 GMT Donna,
Sorry to hear this. I was told years ago bed rest is ok as long as you don't stay there all the time.
I don't know anything about the med.
I sure am with you in thoughts and prayers. Take care and hope it heals up quickly. You have had enough to deal with the last few years.
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> > Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call > them FRIENDS...... Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:13 GMT Thanks, SJ.
How's things with you and Jim these days? Any better?
How's Denise coming along?
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Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
Squirrely - 27 Nov 2006 17:12 GMT Donna G,
thanks for asking. things are about the same for Jim and I.
Denise is coming along little by little.
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> > Thanks, SJ. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call > them FRIENDS...... Kelly C. - 25 Nov 2006 15:14 GMT Yikes. I'm thinking you may have started something with the rolling around on the floor, then blew it with the sneeze.:(
Lyrica is a fairly new drug, being used for neuro/neural stuff. My mom takes Cymbalta for her back nerve pain, and just swears by it. It's also used as an anti-depressant. So many of these drugs have dual benefits. Be careful moving around the house the first few days. You'll probably be a bit dizzy and dopey.
Take care, and let us know what happens next.:)
Hugs, Kelly C.
> Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful > day! [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call > them FRIENDS...... Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:15 GMT Thanks, Kelly. I'm thinking you may be right about starting something with the rolling aroundon the floor and then later finishin it up when I sneezed.
I instantly thought of you and Rachel when the specialist told me this medication is actuallly a seizure med that they have found to work well for nerve type pain. Has Rachel been on this med? How's Rachel doing these days btw???
Hugs,
Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
Kelly C. - 26 Nov 2006 02:41 GMT > Thanks, Kelly. I'm thinking you may be right about starting something > with the rolling aroundon the floor and then later finishin it up when I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Donna G. Rachel hasn't taken that one yet, but I am hearing more about it lately. Nothing bad, just that it's new and it's out there. Rachel is doing okay lately. The VNS seems to be helping more now, but she did have 3 seizures in day recently when she had strep. Nothing in 3 weeks now, though, so that's good.:)
Thanks for asking. Hugs! Kelly C.
Janet - 25 Nov 2006 18:40 GMT Hi- I take Lyrica for electrical type pain, including burning, tingling, numbness, etc. with pretty good results. The first time I tried it, we upped the dose too quickly and I did have waves of terrible tiredness. We tried something else, but it wasn't taking effect quickly enough, so I went back on the Lyrica. We upped the doseage more slowly this time and I have no side effects other than hunger. It sometimes can help in just a day or two, but might take up to 10 days for the full effect. What dose are you supposed to take?
Janet
Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 00:59 GMT Hi Janet,
Yep, you mention the exact type of sensation and pain I am having. Like an electrical thing with the horrible burning and then farther down gets into the tingling and numbness. Really weird feeling stuff. I'd rather deal with plain pain than this stuff. The burning is really something uncomfortable!
The specialist is starting me off on a dose of 75 mg - twice a day. I have no idea what a usual dose is for this medication at all. All he really told me about it is that it is I think a seizure medication that has turned out to be quite effective for nerve type pain. Oh, and he did tell me it might take a few days to notice the full benefit of it.
Hunger? Is that a normal side effect of this med?
Thanks so much for sharing your experience of this med with me, it really does help!!! . . .
Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
d'huit - 26 Nov 2006 05:42 GMT bummer, sweetie! i'm sorry this happened to you.
yep. sneezing, coughing, strong hiccupping, bending over in a chair tying a shoe, picking up something from the floor, simply sitting at a table and just turning the page of the newspaper (like i did), lifting something of any weight or something lightweight but bulky or other simple things can do it. usually, though, something else initiated the blown disc and preceded the event that was noticed, in your case, the sneeze.
i like what your doctor told you to do about alternating resting and activity in short increments. that's a smart doctor you have there! he's on top of the latest course of action.
i have no experience with lyrica, though i did get anti-inflams and muscle relaxants when i blew mine. like rosie said, epidurals may help or may not, but it's worth a try if it becomes intolerable for you. i'm hoping you heal up quickly, hon! (((((((((((((((gentle hugs)))))))))))))
kate
Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful day!
Was sitting doing some paperwork this afternoon, (as that was about all I could handle for the day after spending a wonderful thanksgiving day with 2 of my brothers and their families as well as my parents, and rolling around on the floor playing with nieces and nephews! Getting too old to be doing that, but it is fun while you are doing it.) Just got to pay the piper afterwards with the aches and pains.
In any case, like I said, was sitting doing some paperwork and all of a sudden sneezed rather hard and "pop" went my back and then major pain! Owwwwwieeee!!! Went and laid down for a bit, but just couldn't seem to get comfortable. Kept feeling like I was laying on top of a golf ball or something. As the day progressed, I started experiencing some burning pain in my left butt cheek and down into my upper thigh, which changed to numbness in the lower part of the leg. The burning sensation was/is really really uncomfortable though. Worse than dealing with just plain pain. Called my pcp and he rx'd skelaxin and told me to use my vicodin. Later in the evening he called back to check on things and told him about the burning and numbness and he sent me to the ER. ER called in a ?physical medicine doctor to see me, who is sending me for an MRI on wednesday, but also gave me some Lyrica as he said that would help considerably with the burning pain which is rom nerve inflammation/irritation. He thinks based on my symptoms and x-rays and his exam that I may have ruptured a disc or two. Now how the heck do you do that just by sneezing? In any case, he also told me he wanted me to do 1/2 hour of bed rest, then 1/2 hour of mild activity, 1/2 hour of bed rest, 1/2 hour of mild activity, etc. for the next few days, with minimal time standing on my feet. I thought that bed rest wasn't good for back injuries and that that was just an old myth?! He said, no, bed rest can have a place in the care of back injuries. Anyone else ever hear of this?
In any case, I do the MRI on wednesday of next week, he is sending me to PT and also talked about sending me to get 2-3 epidural injections for the pain---this will be determined for sure once he has the MRI report and sees me back in 2 weeks. Have never taken the Lyrica before and am wondering what others experiences with it are. When I take the skelaxin, all I want to do is sleep all day, and am worried about the lyrica and what reaction that might have on me. What is everyone elses' experience with this medication???
Donna G. . . . ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
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