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Donna G. - 25 Nov 2006 09:19 GMT
Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful
day!

Was sitting doing some paperwork this afternoon, (as that was about all
I could handle for the day after spending a wonderful thanksgiving day
with 2 of my brothers and their families as well as my parents, and
rolling around on the floor playing with nieces and nephews!  Getting
too old to be doing that, but it is fun while you are doing it.)   Just
got to pay the piper afterwards with the aches and pains.

In any case, like I said, was sitting doing some paperwork and all of a
sudden sneezed rather hard and "pop" went my back and then major pain!
Owwwwwieeee!!!   Went and laid down for a bit, but just couldn't seem to
get comfortable.   Kept feeling like I was laying on top of a golf ball
or something.   As the day progressed, I started experiencing some
burning pain in my left butt cheek and down into my upper thigh, which
changed to numbness in the lower part of the leg.  The burning sensation
was/is really really uncomfortable though.  Worse than dealing with just
plain pain.  Called my pcp and he rx'd skelaxin and told me to use my
vicodin.   Later in the evening he called back to check on things and
told him about the burning and numbness and he sent me to the ER.   ER
called in a ?physical medicine doctor to see me, who is sending me for
an MRI on wednesday, but also gave me some Lyrica as he said that would
help considerably with the burning pain which is rom nerve
inflammation/irritation.    He thinks based on my symptoms and x-rays
and his exam that I may have ruptured a disc or two.   Now how the heck
do you do that just by sneezing?   In any case, he also told me he
wanted me to do 1/2 hour of bed rest, then 1/2 hour of mild activity,
1/2 hour of bed rest, 1/2 hour of mild activity, etc. for the next few
days, with minimal time standing on my feet.   I thought that bed rest
wasn't good for back injuries and that that was just an old myth?!   He
said, no, bed rest can have a place in the care of back injuries.
Anyone else ever hear of this?

In any case, I do the MRI on wednesday of next week, he is sending me to
PT and also talked about sending me to get 2-3 epidural injections for
the pain---this will be determined for sure once he has the MRI report
and sees me back in 2 weeks.  
Have never taken the Lyrica before and am wondering what others
experiences with it are.   When I take the skelaxin, all I want to do is
sleep all day, and am worried about the lyrica and what reaction that
might have on me.   What is everyone elses' experience with this
medication???

Donna G.
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Carole - 25 Nov 2006 10:39 GMT
Donna,

A sneeze can do a lot of things. And yes, I have heard of bedrest for
back problems. I was told to do that when I first had my sciatica. I was
also told to avoid stairs and stay on flat surfaces. That was difficult
since I live on the second floor, but I did my best.

Hang in there! I hope the meds are helping.

Hugs,
Carole

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Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:01 GMT
Thanks, Carole, I guess that does make sense.   That must have really
been hard living in split level housing.   Ugggh!
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btw, how are you feeling now adays?   Are you back to eating and
drinking normally?   Sure hope so!
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Donna G.
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GARY Z - 25 Nov 2006 10:51 GMT
> Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful
> day!
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> get comfortable.   Kept feeling like I was laying on top of a golf ball
> or something.

Yikes! Donna, You actually made me cringe when I read this! Stop that! (The
sneezing I mean)

>    I thought that bed rest
> wasn't good for back injuries and that that was just an old myth?!   He
> said, no, bed rest can have a place in the care of back injuries.
> Anyone else ever hear of this?

When my back starts aching from too much standing/sitting, I lay down on the
couch for awhile. It does help me as I think it takes the verticle pressure
off the lumbar joints. Can't help with the medication. I've never taken it.
GaryZ

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Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:02 GMT
LOL.....ok, Gary, trying not to sneeze anymore!  LOLOLOL!!!

Guess it does make sense for the bed rest now that you explain it the
way you did.   Thanks!!!
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Donna G.
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ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call
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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 25 Nov 2006 12:26 GMT
Bed rest all day long = bad. Bed rest the way this doc prescribed it = good.
The hard part is the getting up and down from the bed. Be careful not to do
that too fast. However, the 1/2 hour laying down removes the pressure of
gravity and your upper body from on the disks and the 1/2 hour of mild
activity will help keep your back in the functioning mode.

Good grief, Donna. You don't do things by half, do you honey? Take care of
yourself and let us know what the tests show when you get them. I've never
heard of Lyrica, but I don't even pretend to know all the medications out
there.

We love you, DeeTee

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Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:05 GMT
Thanks, DeeTee---really appreciate the way you put that for me!   Makes
sense!

I'll keep you posted, and you keep us posted about how things turn out
for you with the intestinal things they found.   Praying it's not your
mtx that is causing the problems.   But, then again, also praying it is
not some autoimmune thing to add to the mix!

Hugs to you and Bob,

Donna G.
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ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call
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Rosemarie Shiver - 25 Nov 2006 13:43 GMT
Lyrica is pregabalin and is a med.used by Fibromites. It's for nerve
pain and those who use it either like it or find it doesn't work for them.
You can get the dizzies on it; a lotta standing is a bad idea when you're
first on it.

  It's  a cousin of the Neurontin many of us take....I know I can't do
without my Neurontin. I could take PK's and MR's all day and nite and they'd
never touch the nerve pain I have but Neurontin stops it.

  The burning pain in butt/thigh is sciatica (nerve) pain.

   I haven't been able to get Cush's Bad Backs pages to load...I dunno if
he still has them up, but the main thing with disc slippage/ hernia is to
baby your back. If you baby it well enuff it can heal up on it's own. I've
healed many a slipped disc by taking it very very easy on my back. Don't
lift anything more than a pound...you need someone else to lift for ya.

   Beats surgery because back surgery is a hit or miss kind of thing.
Epidural injections help many...but again, not all.

   Try exploring here: http://www.spineuniverse.com.

Baby Your Back Hugs from Rosie

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Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:11 GMT
Thanks, Rosie for the site and for the other info.   Looks like I
definitely have a lot to learn when it comes to the ole back stuff.  

Yikes, hoping this isn't going to turn into a regular back problem
issue.   Don't need that!  

As far as not lifting anything more than a pound, well.....my oxygen in
its bag weighs about 12 pounds!

One thing that really surprised me about this specialist is that he
asked me since I had RA, did I do any aquatics stuff at all.  I told
him, yes, that I swim and do water aerobics 2x a week and he said I
don't want you doing that for a couple of weeks at least.   I was very
surprised by this and ask him why and he said when you are in the water
and bouncing around, the bouyancy of the water can keep you from
realizing how much damage you could be doing to the back.   I asked him
what if I keep from doing the bouncing stuff and he still said no he
didn't want me to go to the classes.  Weird.

Donna G.
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ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call
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d'huit - 26 Nov 2006 05:25 GMT
Thanks, Rosie for the site and for the other info.   Looks like I
definitely have a lot to learn when it comes to the ole back stuff.

Yikes, hoping this isn't going to turn into a regular back problem
issue.   Don't need that!

As far as not lifting anything more than a pound, well.....my oxygen in
its bag weighs about 12 pounds!

One thing that really surprised me about this specialist is that he
asked me since I had RA, did I do any aquatics stuff at all.  I told
him, yes, that I swim and do water aerobics 2x a week and he said I
don't want you doing that for a couple of weeks at least.   I was very
surprised by this and ask him why and he said when you are in the water
and bouncing around, the bouyancy of the water can keep you from
realizing how much damage you could be doing to the back.   I asked him
what if I keep from doing the bouncing stuff and he still said no he
didn't want me to go to the classes.  Weird.

Donna G.

not weird.  makes total sense, hon.  water bouyancy shifts/changes your
perception of gravity's effects on your body, cuz everything seems and feels
easier, until you get back out of the water and feel what you did.  since
you must carry that 12 pound cylinder, carry and hold it close to your torso
to minimize the stress on your back, sweetie.

kate
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jb - 27 Nov 2006 03:16 GMT
I take lyrica for my neuropathy in my feet and for the nerve pain down my
leg from the spinal stenosis. it does help me somewhat but i must limit my
salt intake as it seems to make my feet and ankles and hands swell. staying
off salt helps a little bit. I can only get relief from my back and stenosis
pain at times by lying down.
janice

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| definitely have a lot to learn when it comes to the ole back stuff.
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Squirrely - 25 Nov 2006 14:37 GMT
Donna,

Sorry to hear this. I was told years ago bed rest is ok as long as you don't
stay there all the time.

I don't know anything about the med.

I sure am with you in thoughts and prayers. Take care and hope it heals up
quickly. You have had enough to deal with the last few years.

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Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:13 GMT
Thanks, SJ.

How's things with you and Jim these days?   Any better?

How's Denise coming along?

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Squirrely - 27 Nov 2006 17:12 GMT
Donna G,

thanks for asking. things are about the same for Jim and I.

Denise is coming along little by little.

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Kelly C. - 25 Nov 2006 15:14 GMT
Yikes. I'm thinking you may have started something with the rolling around
on the floor, then blew it with the sneeze.:(

Lyrica is a fairly new drug, being used for neuro/neural stuff. My mom takes
Cymbalta for her back nerve pain, and just swears by it. It's also used as
an anti-depressant. So many of these drugs have dual benefits. Be careful
moving around the house the first few days. You'll probably be a bit dizzy
and dopey.

Take care, and let us know what happens next.:)

Hugs,
Kelly C.

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> them FRIENDS......
Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 01:15 GMT
Thanks, Kelly.  I'm thinking you may be right about starting something
with the rolling aroundon the floor and then later finishin it up when I
sneezed.  

I instantly thought of you and Rachel when the specialist told me this
medication is actuallly a seizure med that they have found to work well
for nerve type pain.   Has Rachel been on this med?    How's Rachel
doing these days btw???

Hugs,

Donna G.
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ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call
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Kelly C. - 26 Nov 2006 02:41 GMT
> Thanks, Kelly.  I'm thinking you may be right about starting something
> with the rolling aroundon the floor and then later finishin it up when I
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> Donna G.

Rachel hasn't taken that one yet, but I am hearing more about it lately.
Nothing bad, just that it's new and it's out there. Rachel is doing okay
lately. The VNS seems to be helping more now, but she did have 3 seizures in
day recently when she had strep. Nothing in 3 weeks now, though, so that's
good.:)

Thanks for asking. Hugs!
Kelly C.
Janet - 25 Nov 2006 18:40 GMT
Hi-
I take Lyrica for electrical type pain, including burning, tingling,
numbness, etc.  with pretty good results.  The first time I tried it,
we upped the dose too quickly and I did have waves of terrible
tiredness.  We tried something else, but it wasn't taking effect
quickly enough, so I went back on the Lyrica.  We upped the doseage
more slowly this time and I have no side effects other than hunger.  It
sometimes can help in just a day or two, but might take up to 10 days
for the full effect.  What dose are you supposed to take?

Janet
Donna G. - 26 Nov 2006 00:59 GMT
Hi Janet,

Yep, you mention the exact type of sensation and pain I am having.
Like an electrical thing with the horrible burning and then farther down
gets into the tingling and numbness.   Really weird feeling stuff.   I'd
rather deal with plain pain than this stuff.   The burning is really
something uncomfortable!  

The specialist is starting me off on a dose of 75 mg - twice a day.   I
have no idea what a usual dose is for this medication at all.  All he
really told me about it is that it is I think a seizure medication that
has turned out to be quite effective for nerve type pain.   Oh, and he
did tell me it might take a few days to notice the full benefit of it.  

Hunger?   Is that a normal side effect of this med?

Thanks so much for sharing your experience of this med with me, it
really does help!!!
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Donna G.
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ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call
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d'huit - 26 Nov 2006 05:42 GMT
bummer, sweetie!  i'm sorry this happened to you.

yep.  sneezing, coughing, strong hiccupping, bending over in a chair tying a
shoe, picking up something from the floor, simply sitting at a table and
just turning the page of the newspaper (like i did), lifting something of
any weight or something lightweight but bulky or other simple things can do
it.  usually, though, something else initiated the blown disc and preceded
the event that was noticed, in your case, the sneeze.

i like what your doctor told you to do about alternating resting and
activity in short increments.  that's a smart doctor you have there!  he's
on top of the latest course of action.

i have no experience with lyrica, though i did get anti-inflams and muscle
relaxants when i blew mine.  like rosie said, epidurals may help or may not,
but it's worth a try if it becomes intolerable for you.  i'm hoping you heal
up quickly, hon!  (((((((((((((((gentle hugs)))))))))))))

kate

Well, now, this has been a rather interesting day and a rather painful
day!

Was sitting doing some paperwork this afternoon, (as that was about all
I could handle for the day after spending a wonderful thanksgiving day
with 2 of my brothers and their families as well as my parents, and
rolling around on the floor playing with nieces and nephews!  Getting
too old to be doing that, but it is fun while you are doing it.)   Just
got to pay the piper afterwards with the aches and pains.

In any case, like I said, was sitting doing some paperwork and all of a
sudden sneezed rather hard and "pop" went my back and then major pain!
Owwwwwieeee!!!   Went and laid down for a bit, but just couldn't seem to
get comfortable.   Kept feeling like I was laying on top of a golf ball
or something.   As the day progressed, I started experiencing some
burning pain in my left butt cheek and down into my upper thigh, which
changed to numbness in the lower part of the leg.  The burning sensation
was/is really really uncomfortable though.  Worse than dealing with just
plain pain.  Called my pcp and he rx'd skelaxin and told me to use my
vicodin.   Later in the evening he called back to check on things and
told him about the burning and numbness and he sent me to the ER.   ER
called in a ?physical medicine doctor to see me, who is sending me for
an MRI on wednesday, but also gave me some Lyrica as he said that would
help considerably with the burning pain which is rom nerve
inflammation/irritation.    He thinks based on my symptoms and x-rays
and his exam that I may have ruptured a disc or two.   Now how the heck
do you do that just by sneezing?   In any case, he also told me he
wanted me to do 1/2 hour of bed rest, then 1/2 hour of mild activity,
1/2 hour of bed rest, 1/2 hour of mild activity, etc. for the next few
days, with minimal time standing on my feet.   I thought that bed rest
wasn't good for back injuries and that that was just an old myth?!   He
said, no, bed rest can have a place in the care of back injuries.
Anyone else ever hear of this?

In any case, I do the MRI on wednesday of next week, he is sending me to
PT and also talked about sending me to get 2-3 epidural injections for
the pain---this will be determined for sure once he has the MRI report
and sees me back in 2 weeks.
Have never taken the Lyrica before and am wondering what others
experiences with it are.   When I take the skelaxin, all I want to do is
sleep all day, and am worried about the lyrica and what reaction that
might have on me.   What is everyone elses' experience with this
medication???

Donna G.
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ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call
them FRIENDS......

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