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The right one is out there, Duckie. Keep looking. I find that I've
learned so much about buying a house watching HGTV. Things I never knew.
Not that I'll ever have the money to buy a house, but all knowledge is a
good thing. You certainly don't want a house where work was done without
permits! And a 20 year old furnace will not last long. My Mom and I
sold our house when it was 19 years old and our furnace died just after
we put the house on the market, so we had to replace it. And a ten year
old water heater doesn't have a lot of life left in it either. The other
question is - who would do all that work and not replace those two items
while they were doing it?
There is a lovely house out there just waiting for you, Duckie :-))
I'll say a prayer that you will find it soon :)
Carole
> I am beginning to believe that this is never going to happen. Had the
> agent out to look at the house we found. It was over 1 million but big
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> Scary.
> Duckie limping away from another one.....
Duckie,
Hopeing and praying for you to find the perfect place and hopefully all on
one floor. I know it gets tiring hunting and hunting. But one will soon come
your way. Take care.

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>I am beginning to believe that this is never going to happen. Had the agent
>out to look at the house we found. It was over 1 million but big for its
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> Scary.
> Duckie limping away from another one.....
It will happen, it will happen - you certainly didn't want that place!
I'm glad we sold when we did - hte market is really slowing down in north
Florida. They say the house flippers in Gainesville are getting a dose of
rude reality these days. Hopefully it will drift a bit more towards a
buyers' market in your area, though I fear it will never truly be a buyers'
market out there.

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Fire Chief - 14 Oct 2006 00:49 GMT
> I'm glad we sold when we did - hte market is really slowing down in north
> Florida. They say the house flippers in Gainesville are getting a dose of
> rude reality these days. Hopefully it will drift a bit more towards a
> buyers' market in your area, though I fear it will never truly be a buyers'
> market out there.
It's happening in SoCal right now, expecially with new condos and
condo
conversions. There is a glut on the market. Sellers knocking $50,000
to
$100,000 off their asking price. Builders laying off construction
workers.
Major builders and condo converters renting half of the projects just
to
collect enough rent to pay the interest on their bank loans. Cities
have
issued permits but contractors are postponing the start of new
projects.
ouchies! but thank goodness for disclosure forms! the older the house, the
more likely you'll run into stuff like that, cuz 20-30 years ago a lot of
people were into the do-it-yourself/sweat equity craze.
your new home is just waiting for you to find it, duckie.
are you using more than one real estate agent/company? i know they all use
the same MLs, but agents like to show what they've personally listed first
and homes that are in their particular "sales and shotgun-farming
community". your exposure to more homes, that fit your requirements, would
be greater with more than one broker's agent working for you. and you can
be more choozy about which ones you'll see.
agents all know each other and they expect a few clients to have savvy. i
just wouldn't tell them i was using more than one broker, until after you
found the right house--just in case you have an agent who is lazy by nature,
cuz it gives them an excuse not to work harder for you. my friend babs' 3rd
agent is the one who found her house for her, after i encouraged her to have
more agents working for her, at the same time, than just the one who was
showing her nothing but dumps.
kate
I am beginning to believe that this is never going to
happen. Had the agent out to look at the house we
found. It was over 1 million but big for its size in
this area with a very large lot.
Agent thought it looked good with some minor oddities
and then we got the disclosure package.
They had remodeled the house and not changed the 20
year old furnace and the 10 year old water heater.
Minor until you discovered that all the work - new
bathrooms and new kitchen - had been done without
permits. Which means that you have no idea if the
wiring and insulation and all was done to code or even
safely. Any proper inspection now would mean pulling
out the wallboard and starting again. That pretty house
is a firecode step away from disaster. So we are back
to square one.
Scary.
Duckie limping away from another one.....

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Duckie - 17 Oct 2006 01:23 GMT
Actually, our agent sends us the daily multi-listings and we have been
looking at so many houses [weekend open houses] that she doesn't get
involved unless we want her to look at what we found and like. So she
only occasionally calls [usually if I haven't called her in several
weeks] and usually, I have already been in a house she thinks might
work. Some of them look good on paper and horrid in person and then some
look great in person and then the disclosure package shows the hidden
nightmare. When John gets back in Nov. she is taking us around San Mateo
[I hate that town] cause John wants to look there. But taking us on
fishing trips so to speak - we don't do very often.
I like this lady. She could have told us to bid on that house with no
permits just to get a sale, but she said run away run away... She is
also not pushy which makes it easy to work with her.
Had a new house appear on the market and one of the blurbs in writing
was 'remodeled kitchen'. The original 65 years old cabinets and kitchen
set up was there - they had put in a new floor. Not my idea of
remodeled. That would need to be gutted to the studs. And that was not
the only obvious issue. Never even looked at the disclosures on that
one. A good house has the disclosures sitting on the table. If you have
to pry them from the seller's agent, there is usually something wrong.
At least that is what I am finding with the couple we have had to pry loose.
Getting really good at looking at a house and telling how to fix one
that needs remodeling though.
Duckie
> ouchies! but thank goodness for disclosure forms! the older the house, the
> more likely you'll run into stuff like that, cuz 20-30 years ago a lot of
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> kate
d'huit - 17 Oct 2006 04:52 GMT
it generally takes a couple of days for a new listing to show up in the
daily MLs, printed or online. the reason some of these new listings are
sold before they even show up in the MLs is because an agent, who
specializes in that particular area, has already shown it and had written
the contract of sale, before the listing could even be entered in the MLs
online. that's how my friend bought her house; she was the first one to see
the house, before it showed up in the MLs. the best properties/buys
disappear fast. that's one reason i suggest more than one agent.
if you have an agent that shows you, or tells you about, homes that haven't
even shown up in the MLs yet, then you know she is paying attention and
looking out for you. but even then, your agent is only aware of new
listings in a tightly confined area.
any good agent will not be pushy, risk their license nor their reputation by
directly influencing the sale of known defective.property, just to gain the
commission. a large percentage of their commissions come from referrals.
you don't get referrals if you do that kind of stuff. not only that, but
other agents will avoid assisting you or sending you any clients when they
are too busy to service them. that was one of the first things we were
taught after we passed out state exams.
kate
Actually, our agent sends us the daily multi-listings and we have been
looking at so many houses [weekend open houses] that she doesn't get
involved unless we want her to look at what we found and like. So she
only occasionally calls [usually if I haven't called her in several
weeks] and usually, I have already been in a house she thinks might
work. Some of them look good on paper and horrid in person and then some
look great in person and then the disclosure package shows the hidden
nightmare. When John gets back in Nov. she is taking us around San Mateo
[I hate that town] cause John wants to look there. But taking us on
fishing trips so to speak - we don't do very often.
I like this lady. She could have told us to bid on that house with no
permits just to get a sale, but she said run away run away... She is
also not pushy which makes it easy to work with her.
Had a new house appear on the market and one of the blurbs in writing
was 'remodeled kitchen'. The original 65 years old cabinets and kitchen
set up was there - they had put in a new floor. Not my idea of
remodeled. That would need to be gutted to the studs. And that was not
the only obvious issue. Never even looked at the disclosures on that
one. A good house has the disclosures sitting on the table. If you have
to pry them from the seller's agent, there is usually something wrong.
At least that is what I am finding with the couple we have had to pry loose.
Getting really good at looking at a house and telling how to fix one
that needs remodeling though.
Duckie
d'huit wrote:
> ouchies! but thank goodness for disclosure forms! the older the house,
> the
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> kate
BettyB - 17 Oct 2006 03:36 GMT
>ouchies! but thank goodness for disclosure forms! the older the house, the
>more likely you'll run into stuff like that, cuz 20-30 years ago a lot of
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>
>kate
I don't know what part of the Bay Area you are interested in but I
highly, highly, highly recommend Carolyn Miller. Her email is
carolynmiller_crs@msn.com. She works with her daughter at Re/Max. Her
phone number is 888-972-6789. We were her first customers 20-25 years
ago when she switched careers. She is absolutely honest. She knows the
real estate market and she gets to know her clients so that she can
show you houses that fit what you are looking for. She lives in
Cupertino and her mother lives in San Carlos. In the Bay Area I would
never buy or sell through any other real estate agent. She is an
angel. Good luck to you.
--
BettyB -- www.flamingo-code.com
"I have noticed even people who claim everything is
predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it,
look before they cross the road." - Stephen Hawking