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my sister and bro-in-law/prayers needed and long

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Diane - 25 Sep 2006 14:03 GMT
i've asked for prayers for them before, but need them again. i want a
magic wand in the worst way to fix their world.

my sis, age 63, has severe MS. her husband, 71, has lung cancer,
diabetes, emphysema (sp?). my sister remains very active in her love:
little theater. president of a theater and directing plays at other
theaters. she could get around in a specialized van that accomodated
her scooter. over the weekend, she was driving with her husband and on
a hill (going down), could not get the necessary strength in her leg to
press the brake. she took the turn at the bottom of the hill at 30 MPH.
they hit a guard rail and drove across the road and 50 feet through
the woods. thank god, no other cars were on the road at the time and
they miraculously missed any trees
.  my bro-in-law managed to get to the cell phone in my sister's
scooter basket--if my sis had been alone, it's very likely she'd still
be there in the woods. anyhow, the upshot is my bro-in-law was
uninjured, my sister has severe lower back pain but no breaks, but the
worst part is that she won't be able to drive any longer, at least not
with her feet. the van is being looked over and hopefully is not
totalled. it can be adapted so she can use her arms, but even that will
be a stopgap measure as she'll gradually lose ability in her arms as
well. meanwhile, she has no way to get to the theaters, store or
anywhere unless someone will take her in a wheel chair (and push her as
well), which is now beyond her husband's ability.
it's just a crummy situation and i'm feeling helpless being so far
away. i just hate what's happening in their lives.

diane
Ginnie - 25 Sep 2006 14:48 GMT
Boy, you said it.  That IS a crummy situation.
They're in my prayers, but it sounds like they
need a small miracle.

Ginnie    >^..^<
d'huit - 25 Sep 2006 15:18 GMT
sigh . . . i can't imagine myself being in their situation without me being
really angry about it all.  they're so heroic.  my heart goes out to both of
them.  and i wish i could give you the magic wand you want, diane.  all of
you have my prayers.

lovingly,
kate

i've asked for prayers for them before, but need them again. i want a
magic wand in the worst way to fix their world.

my sis, age 63, has severe MS. her husband, 71, has lung cancer,
diabetes, emphysema (sp?). my sister remains very active in her love:
little theater. president of a theater and directing plays at other
theaters. she could get around in a specialized van that accomodated
her scooter. over the weekend, she was driving with her husband and on
a hill (going down), could not get the necessary strength in her leg to
press the brake. she took the turn at the bottom of the hill at 30 MPH.
they hit a guard rail and drove across the road and 50 feet through
the woods. thank god, no other cars were on the road at the time and
they miraculously missed any trees
.  my bro-in-law managed to get to the cell phone in my sister's
scooter basket--if my sis had been alone, it's very likely she'd still
be there in the woods. anyhow, the upshot is my bro-in-law was
uninjured, my sister has severe lower back pain but no breaks, but the
worst part is that she won't be able to drive any longer, at least not
with her feet. the van is being looked over and hopefully is not
totalled. it can be adapted so she can use her arms, but even that will
be a stopgap measure as she'll gradually lose ability in her arms as
well. meanwhile, she has no way to get to the theaters, store or
anywhere unless someone will take her in a wheel chair (and push her as
well), which is now beyond her husband's ability.
it's just a crummy situation and i'm feeling helpless being so far
away. i just hate what's happening in their lives.

diane
vickie b. - 25 Sep 2006 15:28 GMT
(((((diane)))))

(((((sis and husband)))))

Yes!  you can add my prayers,

Vickie B.
hanbell@earthlink.net - 25 Sep 2006 19:54 GMT
(((((((((((((((sister, BIL & Diane))))))))))))))))))))

adding my prayers to the many others.  It is so hard to live through
and so hard to watch this happening to someone you love.

What kind of public transit services are available in her area?  Might
there be something for the elderly and/or disabled that would get her
places for a small fee?  It's simply marvelous that she's finding ways
to enjoy life for as long as possible and I hope and pray she will be
able to continue doing do.

Nann
Kelly - 25 Sep 2006 21:08 GMT
This is so tough Diane.  Don't even want to think what would happen in this
situation to me.  Here we have a handi-dart system which is part of the bus
system which you can book (at $2.00 a ride I think it is) that takes you
where you need to go whether in a wheelchair or if you have limited walking
ability.  Is there anything like that where they live?

Prayers going out.  What a helpless situation - I agree.

Kelly

> i've asked for prayers for them before, but need them again. i want a
> magic wand in the worst way to fix their world.
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>
> diane
Diane - 25 Sep 2006 22:58 GMT
they do have some kind of transportation system for wheelchair users,
but not for scooter users. she'd need someone to push the wheelchair
when she got to her destination. i just spoke to her and she's pretty
down. in a lot of pain, which we all know doesn't help. she's missing
rehearsals which is so upsetting to her, but although someone could
drive her there, she's in too much pain to sit. and her DH is being a
#$@&, which he can be at times. not abusive, just pissy.

thanks for all the kind thoughts and prayers. they're needed.

diane
debbie m - 26 Sep 2006 00:06 GMT
Diane,

I might have a couple of suggestions.  That is all they are,
suggestions.  First, this is what we did with my dad that helped some
when he couldn't drive.

First - is there any way they might think of being in a retirement
center where they offer transportation at least to the doctors and to
some activities?

also, my dad had a Jazzy which is an electric wheelchair and could go
on the handicapped van when they went out.  He only had it a year and
it was like brand new.  We haven't been able to sell it yet, so it is
for sell - not trying to push it on you.

As far as getting her to the plays I don't have a good idea about that.
I wish I did.  It is so hard when they get older and I'm getting there
fast it seems.  I turned 52 in May.
I will keep her and her husband in my thoughts.

debbie m.

> i've asked for prayers for them before, but need them again. i want a
> magic wand in the worst way to fix their world.
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>
> diane
Diane - 26 Sep 2006 04:07 GMT
thanks for those ideas, debbie. it might be good for her to look into
getting an electric wheelchair. as for a retirement community, i don't
know. i think my sister's afraid to sell her house because the equity
would no longer be protected should she ever need medicaid. right now,
i don't think she can think much about the future--just trying to get
through the day. but i really appreciate your thoughts.

it's so strange. my parents lived to 88 and 90 with fairly good health.
grandmothers both 95, grandfathers not far behind. my sibs and i are a
mess, my sister being the worst off with the ms. we just can't figure
out how this happened. maybe the water in NJ?

diane
d'huit - 26 Sep 2006 15:57 GMT
thanks for those ideas, debbie. it might be good for her to look into
getting an electric wheelchair. as for a retirement community, i don't
know. i think my sister's afraid to sell her house because the equity
would no longer be protected should she ever need medicaid. right now,
i don't think she can think much about the future--just trying to get
through the day. but i really appreciate your thoughts.

it's so strange. my parents lived to 88 and 90 with fairly good health.
grandmothers both 95, grandfathers not far behind. my sibs and i are a
mess, my sister being the worst off with the ms. we just can't figure
out how this happened. maybe the water in NJ?

diane

sigh . . . it's the spin of the genetic wheel of fortune, it seems.
regressive genes turn up eventually, even after skipping generations.
sometimes, i wonder if acquired viruses are the triggers for some of these
genetic diseases.

goofy idea---is there a patient advocacy group/agency near your sister?
maybe at a hospital near where she lives or through a local ms chapter?  or
maybe even through her medical insurance?  or the nearby senior center?  or
county services?  the reason i ask is because there are times when patients
are so overwhelmed by the daily stresses of their diseases, and the
non-medical complications of their diseases, that they really cannot think
or function well in their own behalf.  it's virtually impossible for them to
think beyond the immediate.  maybe a patient advocate or social worker can
sit down and help her determine how to best work things out and help her
execute an agreed upon plan of attack to resolve issues and cope?  sigh . .
.

kate
Nann Bell - 30 Sep 2006 04:39 GMT
> thanks for those ideas, debbie. it might be good for her to look into
> getting an electric wheelchair. as for a retirement community, i don't
> know. i think my sister's afraid to sell her house because the equity
> would no longer be protected should she ever need medicaid.

I don't know many details (yet!) about this, but I do know that some
retirement communites have different levels of housing and at some you buy a
house/townhouse/apartment.  Would it be possible that if they sold their
current house and invested the money into buying a place at one of these
retirement communities with different levels, that would once again protect
the equity?  I think I said that very awkwardly, but maybe my point got
through!

I know that's how it is at many retirement communities in my hometown - you
actually buy your living place there so you don't lose the money you have
invested in your current home.

> it's so strange. my parents lived to 88 and 90 with fairly good health.
> grandmothers both 95, grandfathers not far behind. my sibs and i are a
> mess, my sister being the worst off with the ms. we just can't figure
> out how this happened. maybe the water in NJ?

we are kinda like that in my family - one grandfather died in "young" old age
(70s, I believe - it was before I was born), others lived into their late
80s/early 90s.  When arthritis first roared up on me, that was actually one
of my fears - that I'd be living 55+ years in the kind of pain I had that
first year.  

Anyway, my sibs and I all have chronic health issues.  We're fighting them
and aren't as ill as your sister by any means, but I just don't know if we'll
have the longevity of our grands.  That mild auto-immune strain each side of
the family has combined poorly when my parents got together.  They were a
good match overall, though.  ;-)

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Diane - 30 Sep 2006 23:03 GMT
yes, nann, they had recently put money down on one of the retirement
communities that was being built. they were very excited about it--it
was special for some reason i don't remember. anyhow, the place
couldn't get the zoning clearance, so it fell through. my sis and her
husband were not thrilled with the other options in their area, but
perhaps this event will spur them to look harder--though i don't know
how my sister will get out to do any looking.

i spoke with her the other day about contacting the elder care manager
who was so helpful when my parents needed help. she hadn't thought of
that and is going to call her. that is a wonderful resource--there's a
national website with certified elder care managers on the web
(someplace. . . ). it was a lifesaver when my parents were failing.

diane
Ann - 01 Oct 2006 01:08 GMT
Diane, we have a service here they call the "Transvan" and it's managed
by the state dept. of elderly affairs although it's also available for
the disabled.  It's a small 12 passenger wheelchair bus used to
transport people from home to doctor, therapy etc appts. and also for
grocery shopping.  The driver and an aide assist people as needed.  You
do have to make an appt in advance to ride it and there is no fixed
price.  They ask for a donation of one or two dollars.  Maybe they could
check elderly affairs in their city and see what is available there.  My
neighbor uses it right now to take her to the hospital for daily
radiation treatments and is very happy with it instead of driving
herself or asking others for a ride every day.

Ann
Angela - 01 Oct 2006 01:58 GMT
Diane

I found the following on the state.nj.us website:

New Jersey
County Paratransit

Each of the 21 counties in New Jersey provide community-based
transportation services to meet the various needs of seniors, people
with disabilities, and in some cases, the general public, rural
residents and/or Work First participants. NJ TRANSIT assists the
counties as well as private non-profit organizations and municipalities
in the provision of these accessible services through the
administration of various Federal and State grant programs including
the Casino Revenue Fund, the Senior Citizens and Disabled Residents
Transportation Assistance Program, the Federal Transportation
Administration (FTA) 5307, 5310, 5311 and Jobs Access and Reverse
Commute Programs. Please call the numbers on the following list for
specific transportation information and service guidelines in your
county.

Visit Council on Special Transportation (C.O.S.T.) at www.njcost.com

County Paratransit Information

Atlantic County Transportation (609) 645-5910

Bergen County Transportation
www.ridetheshuttle.com (201) 646-3227

Burlington County Transportation (609) 265-5109

Camden Sen-Han Transit (856) 456-3344

Cape May Fare Free Transportation (609) 889-3700

Cumberland Area Transit System (856) 691-7799

Essex County Office on Aging (973) 678-1300

Gloucester County Special Transportation (856) 307-4845
(856) 848-6616 (TT)

Hudson County TRANSCEND (201) 271-4307

Hunterdon County, The Link
www.co.hunterdon.nj.us (800) 842-0531 (Voice & TT)

Mercer T.R.A.D.E
www.mercercounty.org (609) 530-1971/72/73/74 (Voice & TT)
(609) 275-2929 (Princeton Area only)

Middlesex County Transportation, AWTS
www.co.middlesex.nj.us (800) 221-3520

Monmouth County SCAT
www.visitmonmouth.com (732) 431-6480 (Voice & TT)

Morris County (973) 366-9378

Ocean County OceanRide
www.co.ocean.nj.us (877) 929-2082
(732) 736-8989

Passaic County Paratransit
(excluding Paterson, Clifton, West Milford
and city of Passaic) (973) 305-5756/57/58

Paterson (973) 881-0058

Clifton (973) 470-2235

West Milford (973) 728-2863

Passaic (973) 365-5754

Salem County Transportation (856) 339-8622

Somerset County Transportation
www.co.somerset.nj.us (908) 231-7115
(908) 231-7116 (TT)

Sussex County Transportation (973) 579-0480

Union County Transportation (908) 241-8300

Warren County Transportation
www.intelitran.com (908) 454-4044

I hope this helps

Angela
Fire Chief - 01 Oct 2006 06:28 GMT
> Diane, we have a service here they call the "Transvan" and it's managed
> by the state dept. of elderly affairs although it's also available for
> the disabled.

It's required by ADA for disabled.  Many jurisdictions offer it to all
seniors also as a means of recovering costs of operation.

Locally, the Red Cross operated transportation under contract with
the county until it was caught in an "ENRON" type scandel - "cooking"
the books with false information.  However it was "disabled-only"
and those who wanted to participate had to apply, with letters from
doctors attesting to their disability and inability to use other
public
transportation - bus routes and the trolley.

... Jesus was born in a manger because Joseph belonged to an HMO.
Duckie - 26 Sep 2006 08:56 GMT
Prayers on the way for all. Do they have any children? Are they still in
VA with you now in NC?
My mother has Home Instead once a week now to drive her and do laundry
and groceries and that is making her life more comfortable.
Duckie

> i've asked for prayers for them before, but need them again. i want a
> magic wand in the worst way to fix their world.
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>
> diane
RoseB - 26 Sep 2006 14:43 GMT
What a sad situation, Diane. I will pray that there is some assistance
for them so that they can continue to do the things they love.
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Cindy - 26 Sep 2006 15:21 GMT
Diane, offering my prayers also...I know that it seems like you do need a
miracle...maybe one will come along...
Hugs Cindy
> i've asked for prayers for them before, but need them again. i want a
> magic wand in the worst way to fix their world.
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>
> diane
ladylove77 - 27 Sep 2006 05:25 GMT
Prayers on the way, Diane.  I'm praying that God will provide a way for her
to get to the places she needs to go, and to push her wheelchair if needed.
Gwen

> i've asked for prayers for them before, but need them again. i want a
> magic wand in the worst way to fix their world.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> diane
Fire Chief - 27 Sep 2006 06:56 GMT
> i've asked for prayers for them before, but need them again.

You know you have them - the ASA prayer wheel never stops.

> my sis, age 63, has severe MS. her husband, 71, has lung cancer,

You may have mentioned before, but where are they?
Different states, different counties, different communities
all have varying agenciesand programs to help/assist.

> meanwhile, she has no way to get to the theaters, store or
> anywhere unless someone will take her in a wheel chair
> (and push her as well),

Is this a temporary condition (not being able to maneuver a
wheelchair by herself) resulting from the accident.  It it's
permanent, caused by the MS, isn't she eligible for a
motorized wheelchair?

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Janet - 27 Sep 2006 16:19 GMT
Diane-

Thank you for letting us know of the need for prayers.  I'm grateful to
be able to help in this way.

Janet
Diane - 29 Sep 2006 00:14 GMT
they are in NJ, chief. she is starting to look into resources. not
being able to use a wheelchair is because of the MS, and yes, she
probably is eligible for a motorized wheelchair, although she already
has two scooters. she just didn't realize she'd need one. she took a
special cab to the doctors yesterday. it took two people to get her
into the cab and two people to get her out. her husband then had to
push the non motorized wheelchair from the lot to the doctor's office,
and since he has lung cancer and emphysema, he had to keep stopping.
it's just a horrid situation. she told me it's made her realize how bad
off she is. with the scooter and van, she'd been able to be so
independent. i know her, though, and she will muster her resources and
figure out what to do. my brother, who lives an hour away, will see
them this weekend and assess the situation.

thanks, all for the prayers and concerns.

diane
 
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