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Califchief - 09 Sep 2006 03:32 GMT
Science announcement: Bread is dangerous

  1. More than 98 percent of convicted felons are bread users.

  2. Fully HALF of all children who grow up in bread-consuming
 households score below average on standardized tests.

  3. In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the
 home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant
 mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth;
 and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever, and influenza ravaged whole
 nations.

  4. More than 90 percent of violent crimes are committed within 24
 hours of eating bread.

  5. Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread
 and given only water to eat, begged for bread after as little as two
 days.

  6. Bread is often a "gateway" food item, leading the user to "harder"
 items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter, and even cream cheese.

  7. Bread has been proven to absorb water. Since the human body is more
 than 90 percent water, it follows that eating bread could lead to your
 body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you
 into a soggy, gooey , bread-pudding person.

  8. Newborn babies can choke on bread.

  9. Bread is baked at temperatures as high as 450 degrees Fahrenheit!
 That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than two minutes.

 10. Most American bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish
 between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical
 babbling.

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spodosaurus - 09 Sep 2006 10:04 GMT
>   Science announcement: Bread is dangerous
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> ... No new mail for you.  Want someone else's?    

Somewhat related: these are the sort of stats that people use to try and
ban pornography by improperly linking it to crime as a cause and
effect...yet people actually buy into it then! Live and let live: if you
don't want to star in it, don't bloody well video tape yourself in the
act and leave the tape in the camera when you have it sent for warranty
repair. If you don't want to watch it, don't buy it. It's a slippery
slope when we start trying to ban things and using stats such as those
used humourously above: personally, I don't like bread, and highly
processed carbohydrates used in bread are massively contributing to the
obesity epidemic and the blow out in health care costs for all tax
payers...so I say we ban it. On the other hand, I can try not pushing to
legislate the films you can watch, books you can read, or foods you can
buy, and maybe everyone can all get along a bit better.

Regards,

Ari

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d'huit - 09 Sep 2006 14:01 GMT
Califchief wrote:
>   Science announcement: Bread is dangerous
>
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>
> ... No new mail for you.  Want someone else's?

Somewhat related: these are the sort of stats that people use to try and
ban pornography by improperly linking it to crime as a cause and
effect...yet people actually buy into it then! Live and let live: if you
don't want to star in it, don't bloody well video tape yourself in the
act and leave the tape in the camera when you have it sent for warranty
repair. If you don't want to watch it, don't buy it. It's a slippery
slope when we start trying to ban things and using stats such as those
used humourously above: personally, I don't like bread, and highly
processed carbohydrates used in bread are massively contributing to the
obesity epidemic and the blow out in health care costs for all tax
payers...so I say we ban it. On the other hand, I can try not pushing to
legislate the films you can watch, books you can read, or foods you can
buy, and maybe everyone can all get along a bit better.

Regards,

Ari

ummm . . . ari, food, in general, contributes to obesity.  maybe, everybody
should just stop eating food.  silverware contributes to obesity.  pots and
pans contribute to obesity. stoneware, china, melmac, glassware all
contribute to obeisity. oh hell, kitchens and dining rooms contribute to
obeisity.  television contributes to obesity.  chairs contribute to obesity.
the movie industry contributes to obesity.  cars contribute to obesity and
therefore, highways contribute to obeisity.   . . . ad nauseum.

gee, you know what, ari?  i think the real underlying reason for the blow
out in health care costs, for all tax payers, is going to the doctor.  so, i
say we ban going to the doctor!  yeah.  now, i can get behind that!

kate
<oh, the slippery slope of "logic"!  it is particularly easy to use a
*specific something you don't like* to create a negative generalization
about it.  gee, maybe that's how the concept of "study grants" was born?!>

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

spodosaurus - 10 Sep 2006 09:48 GMT
> Califchief wrote:
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> *specific something you don't like* to create a negative generalization
> about it.  gee, maybe that's how the concept of "study grants" was born?!>

I've been thinking further on this, and I've come to the conclusion that
you either have to ban both bread and porn or allow both. To allow just
bread without allowing porn would exacerbate the problems of obese
people by removing a valuable form of exercise ;-)

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

d'huit - 10 Sep 2006 17:38 GMT
"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message

I've been thinking further on this, and I've come to the conclusion that
you either have to ban both bread and porn or allow both. To allow just
bread without allowing porn would exacerbate the problems of obese
people by removing a valuable form of exercise ;-)

ROTFL!    clever boy!LOL

kate
<suddenly struck by the image of:  the pillsbury doughboy in porno flicks?
egads!>

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

spodosaurus - 11 Sep 2006 09:00 GMT
> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>
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> <suddenly struck by the image of:  the pillsbury doughboy in porno flicks?
> egads!>

You find that striking? You obviously aren't receiving the same spam
mail that I get! :-)

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

Nann Bell - 09 Sep 2006 15:40 GMT
>   Science announcement: Bread is dangerous

("stats" snipped)

the first rule of research and or any research methods course:
Correlation does NOT equal causation!

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johnie - 09 Sep 2006 17:07 GMT
> the first rule of research and or any research methods course:
> Correlation does NOT equal causation!

And 'causation' rarely 'correlates'...>g<

But, Seriously, on a side note related directly to the health concerns
of foods containing "gluten". Several times over the last 20 years I
have gone on 'gluten free' regimens with no perceptable changes Till
this summer at me sweet lucy's urging I tried once more and /WALAH\
several things re: my bad health have improved significantly. My
digestion (i have crohn's now) is much improved and my energy levels
and stamina are increasing, slowly but perceptible. I do feel better
and will continue to avoid the gluten. The improvement in crohn's alone
is well worth it. Perhaps it is not crohn's but celiac disease. Time
will tell.

Perhaps you remember over the years I am the goofball that used to do
an intense elimination diet once a year because I believe that my
reactions to certain foods change as I age and as my disease's
progress. This has been supported by the fact that my sensitivities to
certain foods do indeed change and requires adjustments that I now make
about every 2 years.

I just wanted to share this as I do not often have any "good" news
about my health and its a real treat when something positive occurs.

Keep in mind my research methods are 'my research methods' and may not
correlate in your world.>bg<

high desert gluten free hugs and hellos,
johnie
 
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