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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / September 2006Ladies- beauty questions
I invited my hairdresser to speak to our in-person arthritis/lupus support group. We wanted info on hair styles for round faces, easy care- no curling irons/curlers, and changes medications make in hair and how to deal with them. What else should she address? any ideas? We are gonna have a make-up person speak as well. Again any things YOU would want to know? Thanks kate Kate, what a good idea! Gwen >I invited my hairdresser to speak to our in-person arthritis/lupus > support group. We wanted info on hair styles for round faces, easy > care- no curling irons/curlers, and changes medications make in hair > and how to deal with them. What else should she address? any ideas? We > are gonna have a make-up person speak as well. Again any things YOU > would want to know? Thanks kate What an awesome idea! > I invited my hairdresser to speak to our in-person arthritis/lupus > support group. We wanted info on hair styles for round faces, easy > care- no curling irons/curlers, and changes medications make in hair > and how to deal with them. What else should she address? any ideas? We > are gonna have a make-up person speak as well. Again any things YOU > would want to know? Thanks kate How about addressing the weight of most hair dryers. I bought a cheapie travel model rather than tire my arm out with the regular heavier model. Are their curling irons with ergonomic handles? jo nj >I invited my hairdresser to speak to our in-person arthritis/lupus > support group. We wanted info on hair styles for round faces, easy > care- no curling irons/curlers, and changes medications make in hair > and how to deal with them. What else should she address? any ideas? We > are gonna have a make-up person speak as well. Again any things YOU > would want to know? Thanks kate my hair stylist already pointed out to me Walmart (and some other places too) have hair dryer stands to hold and position the dryer. i can't get my arms above my head for more than a few seconds but I didn't look at them yet. Kate > How about addressing the weight of most hair dryers. I bought a cheapie > travel model rather than tire my arm out with the regular heavier model. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > are gonna have a make-up person speak as well. Again any things YOU > > would want to know? Thanks kate hair loss. :-( diane What a GREAT idea! I wish we had a good support group here Wash n Wear hair cuts. I have naturally curly hair and don't have to do anything besides apply product and occasionally diffuse. A few easy up do's Hair cuts to make hair look thick For makeup, I really recommend mineral makeup. It's so easy to apply and easy on the skin. It's s cinch to cover the butterfly rash and other red spots. A 5 minute face would be great. Carmindy on TLC's What Not to Wear is always showing one. Nicole >I invited my hairdresser to speak to our in-person arthritis/lupus > support group. We wanted info on hair styles for round faces, easy > care- no curling irons/curlers, and changes medications make in hair > and how to deal with them. What else should she address? any ideas? We > are gonna have a make-up person speak as well. Again any things YOU > would want to know? Thanks kate > What a GREAT idea! I wish we had a good support group here > Wash n Wear hair cuts. I have naturally curly hair and don't have to do > anything besides apply product and occasionally diffuse. I wish I could get a wash and wear haircut. My hair has dumb waves in it so whether I wear it long or short, I always have to blow dry it. And now that I've gone through menopause, my hair is growing a LOT faster than it ever used to. It's very long now and I wish I had this hair when I was younger. I'm going to keep it long for as long as I can because I like it, although it takes a lot of time, so I do think of cutting it every so often. > For makeup, I really recommend mineral makeup. It's so easy to apply and > easy on the skin. It's s cinch to cover the butterfly rash and other red > spots. I've been looking at those infomercials on TV. Does that makeup really look as good as they say it does? Carole Carole My hair is really curly and I finally found someone who knew how to cut it. So now, I condition (I don't shampoo), rinse, and then apply product and I'm done. If I want to put my hair up, it's easy cuz it's so thick. The clips just hold in there. Bare Minerals make up is SO much better than traditional makeup. The foundation, mineral veil and all over face color is wonderful. The eye shadows are ok but nothing special.... but I wouldn't trade the 3 products above for the world. I have the lupus rash on my face plus sensitive skin.... this covers it without being gunked on and doesn't hurt my skin. Delphi has a Bare Escentuals addict board and it's full of info. http://forums.delphiforums.com/bareescentuals/start You can also order samples to experiment. I'm very pale and use the lightest foundation available..... I struggled for years to get rid of that line on my jaw. HTH Nicole >> What a GREAT idea! I wish we had a good support group here >> Wash n Wear hair cuts. I have naturally curly hair and don't have to do [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Carole > Carole > My hair is really curly and I finally found someone who knew how to cut it. > So now, I condition (I don't shampoo), rinse, and then apply product and I'm > done. If I want to put my hair up, it's easy cuz it's so thick. The clips > just hold in there. I guess I need to find someone who can cut my hair to do that. I don't have curls though, I have dumb waves that are annoying. And my hair frizzes when the weather is damp. > Bare Minerals make up is SO much better than traditional makeup. The > foundation, mineral veil and all over face color is wonderful. The eye > shadows are ok but nothing special.... but I wouldn't trade the 3 products > above for the world. Thanks for the info. I'd like to get some samples so I can see if I like it. When I see the infomercials on TV, they always say you have to join their "club" and get automatic shipments. I don't wear makeup that often so I don't want to get into something like that. I'd like a place where I can order things when I need them. Right now I could use a pick me up. I went to the doctor today in acute pain and I have sciatica. It's not only painful, it's frustrating as I can't get out to do errands and such. Yea, I'm whining...I've been in pain for about 5 days now and I wish this would go away. Carole > I guess I need to find someone who can cut my hair to do that. I don't > have curls though, I have dumb waves that are annoying. And my hair > frizzes when the weather is damp. Do those curl control creams help any? I've heard about them, but not being curly these days, I haven't tried them. > Right now I could use a pick me up. I went to the doctor today in acute > pain and I have sciatica. It's not only painful, it's frustrating as I > can't get out to do errands and such. Yea, I'm whining...I've been in > pain for about 5 days now and I wish this would go away. (((((((((((((Carole))))))))))) Any hope of trying PT or chiro? Both have helped me a lot when my spine acts up, but it does depend on what is causing the sciatica.  SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare > Do those curl control creams help any? I've heard about them, but not being > curly these days, I haven't tried them. I haven't tried them either. I've always been into straight hair, so I just blow it out with a HUGE brush the size of Manhattan :)) > (((((((((((((Carole))))))))))) Any hope of trying PT or chiro? Both have > helped me a lot when my spine acts up, but it does depend on what is causing > the sciatica. Thanks, Nann. I could use hugs right now. I'm not sure what's causing this. I just finished moving and probably did more than I should have. The doctor gave me vicodin (which makes me sleepy) and I'm going to a massage therapist that he recommended. He did say that the chiropractors in this country have all sent their kids to Harvard thanks to sciatica :) If the massage therapist doesn't work, I am going to look into a chiro. My doctor also said that I should give it 7-14 days and if it's no better, we can look into physical therapy. So I just have to wait and see. I just want to get back to the pool. My new apartment complex has a nice indoor pool and hot tub. I was doing so good at swimming every day, so I'm hoping to get back to that asap :) Hugs, Carole Carole, would you consider seeing an osteopath? I saw one, with my RD's blessing, for the pain I've been having in my neck. He was wonderful, and the manipulation he does is more centered on the tendons and ligaments, than on the spine. I found a great deal of relief. Kelly C. >> Do those curl control creams help any? I've heard about them, but not >> being curly these days, I haven't tried them. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Hugs, > Carole At this point, Kelly, I'd consider anything. Are osteopaths covered by insurance? I guess I'd have to call my insurance to find out. They do cover massage therapy after I pay the first $300. I'll go on their website and see what I can find out. Thanks, Kelly. Carole > Carole, would you consider seeing an osteopath? I saw one, with my RD's > blessing, for the pain I've been having in my neck. He was wonderful, and > the manipulation he does is more centered on the tendons and ligaments, than > on the spine. I found a great deal of relief. > > Kelly C. We have Premera Blue Cross, and this doctor was covered, though I don't know if a referral is required. The thought of chiro manipulation on my neck scared the tar out of me, and the RD didn't like the idea, either. It can't hurt to find out. Kelly C. > At this point, Kelly, I'd consider anything. Are osteopaths covered by > insurance? I guess I'd have to call my insurance to find out. They do [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> Kelly C. Yea, my doctor didn't think much of going to a chiro. He basically said that they get to send their kids to Harvard thanks to sciatica. He did suggest massage therapy though. What does an osteopath do? I feel kind of stupid, but I don't really know what they do. But if they can do something to fix this, I'd even give them a hug :) Carole > We have Premera Blue Cross, and this doctor was covered, though I don't know > if a referral is required. The thought of chiro manipulation on my neck > scared the tar out of me, and the RD didn't like the idea, either. It can't > hurt to find out. > > Kelly C. I have had great luck with my physio when my sciatic area heats up. She only sees me as long as she figures necessary and that is not very long. Gets the ultrasound to get the inflammation down and gets me moving as well as possible again. Not sure about an osteopath but chiro is not thought of well by my doctor for that as well. Kelly > Yea, my doctor didn't think much of going to a chiro. He basically said > that they get to send their kids to Harvard thanks to sciatica. He did [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Kelly C. My doctor told me to give this 7-14 days and see how I was doing. If it's not better, then we'd look into physical therapy. I am doing a bit better today, and much better than I was this past Saturday. I couldn't even walk from the couch to the bathroom without acute pain. At least now I can get there semi-comfortably. Carole > I have had great luck with my physio when my sciatic area heats up. She > only sees me as long as she figures necessary and that is not very long. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Kelly An osteopath is a medical doctor, and must have that degree before becoming an osteopath. I googled the term before making the appt. I don't know if they all work the same way, but my doctor used a lot of pressure-point and gentle stretching to manipulate problem areas. Nothing he did ever hurt, but it was different. There was one manipulation where he put his thumbs in myears to get the right leverage for his fingers on the back of my neck.lol I realized quite a bit of benefit from those visits. I think I went once a week for a few weeks, then twice a month, then the last two visits were once a month. Kelly C. > Yea, my doctor didn't think much of going to a chiro. He basically said > that they get to send their kids to Harvard thanks to sciatica. He did [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Kelly C. > An osteopath is a medical doctor, and must have that degree before becoming > an osteopath. I googled the term before making the appt. I don't know if [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Kelly C. OK, now I can be silly and wonder where he would put his fingers for leverage, since this is my hip, thigh, knee and calf :-))) I will keep it in mind though once I see where this is going. Thanks, Kelly! Carole I went to an osteopath in Florida but he didn't do anything different than any other doctor I went to. Gwen > An osteopath is a medical doctor, and must have that degree before > becoming an osteopath. I googled the term before making the appt. I don't [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> >>> Kelly C. Yes osteopaths are covered. They are licensed doctors and for all purposes, the same as a MD. They can do everything a MD would do. They do view the body as a whole instead of just looking at one symptom. I've really liked the few DO's I've seen. Some do spinal alignment but not all do. > At this point, Kelly, I'd consider anything. Are osteopaths covered by > insurance? I guess I'd have to call my insurance to find out. They do [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> Kelly C. Thanks, Nicole! :-) > Yes osteopaths are covered. They are licensed doctors and for all purposes, > the same as a MD. They can do everything a MD would do. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>> >>>Kelly C. Depends on what you're wanting to do. There are products that help to straighten out hair too. So if you're not wanting any wave, those are great to try. A flat iron is a lot easier to use to straighten than trying to blow dry the hair straight. You can blow dry it to dry it, then go back with a flat iron and straighten. Nicole >> I guess I need to find someone who can cut my hair to do that. I don't >> have curls though, I have dumb waves that are annoying. And my hair [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > causing > the sciatica. > Carole > My hair is really curly and I finally found someone who knew how to cut it. > So now, I condition (I don't shampoo), rinse, and then apply product and I'm > done. If I want to put my hair up, it's easy cuz it's so thick. The clips > just hold in there. Taht reminds me - my mom's hair is thick and wavy. She has found over the years that it does best if it is cut dry rather than wet. There's just too much difference in how it lies. She's had a lot of trouble at times finding someone who will cut it dry. She passed her thick, fast growing hair on to my sister and I. I just keep it cut in shoulder-length or slightly longer layers so I can comb it out after washing and go. Never into spending time and energy on styling and even less so since PA decided to mess with my hands! SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare Getting a dry haircut is the best way to go for curly hair. I prefer that each curl is cut separately. >> Carole >> My hair is really curly and I finally found someone who knew how to cut [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > after washing and go. Never into spending time and energy on styling and > even less so since PA decided to mess with my hands! I love that stuff. Get the kit with the brush from Beauty Bridge or Sephoria and you won't have to 'join' a club you won't remember to cancel. I got a starter box which came with brushes and four little jars of magic. I have since bought shadow and mascara and a brush cleaner. It takes me about 10 minutes to swirl tap and buff plus do simple eyes. Bought the stuff after a young kid asked me if I wanted the senior discount. Yes I said and then went home and colored my hair and bought this makeup. lol My very allergic face is happy in this stuff. Wish I had some stock but just happy customer. Duckie >> For makeup, I really recommend mineral makeup. It's so easy to apply >> and easy on the skin. It's s cinch to cover the butterfly rash and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Carole Thanks, Duckie. What is the name of the stuff you bought? And do you remember how much it was? Hugs, Carole :) > I love that stuff. Get the kit with the brush from Beauty Bridge or > Sephoria and you won't have to 'join' a club you won't remember to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> Carole Let's see. I think is was $65 dollars for the box. Let me see if I can find some links... Go to Google and type in bare escentuals the first two links. I bought it from Beauty Bridge because of no shipping and no club and then discovered a Sephoria in the local mall and have trotted over there. They also had the boxs in the store. It is called the starter kit. Start saving up a few dollars at a time and go for it. The brushes are worth getting the starter kit as they are somehow much better quality than the ones I had. Or if you are near a Sephoria you could go in and have them do your make up and then tell them you are going to see how your face handles the product and you can come back later. Be sure to have them tell you which color foundation you take. The kit comes with two and you can use one or blend two. Hope that helps. Duckie > Thanks, Duckie. What is the name of the stuff you bought? And do you > remember how much it was? [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>> >>> Carole Forgive me if this was already posted, but Bare Escentuals is available on www.QVC.com, too. 'Course there you have to pay shipping, but they should have a lot of whatever else is in the product line, for online research 'porpoises' if nothing else. I use the Philosophy version, which has a very slick applicator and mirror built into the product. And I think you get a huge amount $$-wise, ounce-for-ounce. I compared the per-ounce price with Revlon's version at Wal-Mart and they were the same! Philosophy has several base shades - the middle tone is "Natural", which I use, and I'm a yellow-toned hazel-eyed dark blond without much tan. They have a dark tone for ethnic skin, plus a blusher and a bronzer. What's funny to me about the whole powder-as-foundation thing is that Philosophy's doesn't 'sit' on my skin looking 'powdery' like a good dusting of flour. The applicator kinda 'burnishes' it onto my skin, so I end up with a satin finish, not matte. Ginnie ( >^..^< ...don't get her started, she's a make-up freak. ) You can catch more flies with funny than vinegar. __________________________________ > Let's see. I think is was $65 dollars for the box. Let me see if I can > find some links... [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >>>> >>>> Carole I have to say that I don't order much from QVC anymore. By the time I pay the shipping and handling and sales tax, it makes the item so much more expensive. I like HSN as they don't charge sales tax and many times they offer free shipping. I tried the Beauty Bridge but they are out of stock on the medium. I never know what color to order as I have brown hair, brown eyes, but sometimes medium foundations are too dark for me. I have the kind of skin that burns and then fades to a tan. I didn't know Revlon had a version of this type of makeup. Maybe I'll check that out next time I pop into Walmart. Thanks! Carole > Forgive me if this was already posted, but Bare Escentuals is available > on www.QVC.com, too. 'Course there you have to pay shipping, but [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > You can catch more flies with funny than vinegar. Oy! EVERYbody has a version of this mineral makeup. At my Wal-Mart, there's a whole line by Neutrogena and L'Oreal, both with built-in brushes. The Revlon one is just a promotion for now, only has two sparkly skin tones and two non-sparkly blushes. The "Caramel" blush is just plain orange on my yellow tones, but the pink/rose looks fine in moderation. The L'Oreal one feels like it has a high percentage of talc in it - it's much more opaque than any other line, and has that 'creamy' feel of talc. The Neutrogena one has just a tad of subtle sparkle that doesn't really show up on your skin. Both lines have a lot of different colors in them, and I'm not sure, but they might be equivalent in color names to their liquid foundations, if you know your color in the liquid. I didn't see any of those transparent plastic color swatches for either one. I bought the Neutrogena one, and when it's first opened, you've gotta kinda 'pound' it on a hard surface to get the powder to come out through the brush - you can't open the powder compartment to use it with a separate brush, but at least it can't get messy like the L'Oreal one - You unscrew the brush top to reveal the powder, then dip the brush into it. Ginnie ( >^..^< ...see?? You got her started... ) You can catch more flies with funny than vinegar. __________________________________ > I have to say that I don't order much from QVC anymore. By the time I > pay the shipping and handling and sales tax, it makes the item so much [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> >> You can catch more flies with funny than vinegar. Thanks, Ginnie! I'm nursing a sciatica flair right now, so walking around Walmart is not something I can do. But once this goes away, I'll check it out :) Carole > Oy! EVERYbody has a version of this mineral makeup. At my Wal-Mart, > there's a whole line by Neutrogena and L'Oreal, both with built-in brushes. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > You can catch more flies with funny than vinegar. > __________________________________ There's always eBay. That's where I got my mineral makeup. It's not a brand-name folks would know. It's from Smoky Mountain Minerals. sal > Thanks, Ginnie! I'm nursing a sciatica flair right now, so walking > around Walmart is not something I can do. But once this goes away, I'll [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > You can catch more flies with funny than vinegar. > > __________________________________ > What a GREAT idea! I wish we had a good support group here I can't tell where you're located. Have you talked with your doctor about support groups? Have you contacted the Arthritis Foundation to see if there is one near you? Or inquired about how to state one? Wherever there is a support group, someone had to take the bull by the horns to get it started. That someone could be you if a support group doesn't already exist. ... Puritanism is the fear that someone might be having fun. Joe wrote: > Or inquired about how to state one? How to START one. ... Playing doctor is for kids; let's play gynecologist! I'm in Bakersfield. There aren't any arthritis or lupus support groups. The lupus group disbanded. I've contacted the Arthritis Foundation and everyone else I could think or. My doctor is in Fresno (I do have one here but the one in Fresno handles the lupus, etc) so he's not familiar with anything here. I'm not interested in starting a group... just not up to it right now. Nicole >> What a GREAT idea! I wish we had a good support group here > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > ... Puritanism is the fear that someone might be having fun. > I'm in Bakersfield. Dang! Mary and I were in Bakersfield a couple months ago for a square dance festival. Perhaps next Spring we can all get together over a cup of coffee and donuts. <g> ... BBQ: Incinerator used tor disposing of meat. Never heard of the square dance festival. Where was that at? My life consists of driving my children here, there and everywhere. Can't wait for winter..... be nice once it cools down. Nicole >> I'm in Bakersfield. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ... BBQ: Incinerator used tor disposing of meat. > Never heard of the square dance festival. Where was that at? The Kern County Fairgrounds. You didn't notice an influx of 1,500 - 2,000 people? <g> ... COFFEE.COM not found: (A)bort, (R)eheat, (S)nooze ? Sure didn't! The fair grounds are on the complete other side of town... haven't been over in that area in years. We live in the Northwest... no where for activities over here unless it's at the schools or churches. Contact me the next time you're in this area.... hopefully, the kids won't have something going on. Hubby works constantly so he's easy to schedule around. =) Nicole >> Never heard of the square dance festival. Where was that at? > > The Kern County Fairgrounds. You didn't notice an influx > of 1,500 - 2,000 people? <g> > > ... COFFEE.COM not found: (A)bort, (R)eheat, (S)nooze ? |
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