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jnorwood - 21 Aug 2006 01:27 GMT
Hi,

I have suffered for years with severe hip pain, including a lack of
mobility. I was told by a doctor a few years ago that I had Perthes,
though unfortunately for me it went undiagnosed for many years.

I am 34 and have been reduced to using a cane outside my home and a
walker in my home. A few days ago the pain was so severe I really just
wanted to die, I couldn't stand it any longer.

Does anyone out there know of any ways I can manage my pain? My doctors
won't do anything because they say I'm too young for a hip replacement.

Any help at all would be welcome.

James N
Lyn - 21 Aug 2006 02:11 GMT
>Hi,
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The first thing you can do is find a doctor without "you are too young"
in his/her vocabulary.  It is a quality of life issue, not age.

Lyn
Ann - 21 Aug 2006 02:52 GMT
That's just plain silly.  I had a friend who had a THR back in the 50's
about the same time Arthur Godfrey had his in Boston and my friend was
only 14 at the time.  I lost track of him and don't know how many years
it lasted but the poor kid had been on crutches prior to the surgery and
was walking fine afterward.

Ann
ladylove77 - 21 Aug 2006 03:12 GMT
My advice:  Change doctors.  You are not too young for a hip replacement
with the pain you are having.
See an orthopedic surgeon, to whom you may have to be referred by your
regular doctor, but don't put it off.
Gwen

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> James N
spodosaurus - 21 Aug 2006 14:34 GMT
> Hi,
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> James N

James, you need new doctors. I had my first hip replacement at 25 and
the second one at 27. I'm 31 now. The artificial hips are pretty much
the only major joints that I have that still work right! What country
are you in? Seriously, if they said you're too young they're either
mismanaging your symptoms (eg, you're not physically in need of a hip
replacement yet and they can do something else in the mean time but
aren't) or they're just lazy fuckwits. What kind of doctor told you that
you are too young for a hip replacement? I lost my hips due to
osteonecrosis.

Regards,

Ari

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

johnie - 21 Aug 2006 17:04 GMT
spodosaurus wrote:>snip<

> James, you need new doctors. they're just lazy fuckwits.

DITTO, DITTO,double ditto...

johnie
spodosaurus - 21 Aug 2006 19:04 GMT
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> johnie

Actually I think I was a bit severe...well...given what's happened to me
in the last two years I guess not. I do, however, think they're being
indoctrinated into the art of fuckwittedness rather than being
inherently fuckwitted (not to say that their intentions aren't good,
just too often misguided). Although some would just have to be savants
as they are so adept at it.

Regards,

Ari

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

d'huit - 14 Sep 2006 12:30 GMT
johnie wrote:
> spodosaurus wrote:>snip<
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> johnie

Actually I think I was a bit severe...well...given what's happened to me
in the last two years I guess not. I do, however, think they're being
indoctrinated into the art of fuckwittedness rather than being
inherently fuckwitted (not to say that their intentions aren't good,
just too often misguided). Although some would just have to be savants
as they are so adept at it.

LOL!  the more i learn about medical school training, from doctor's
symposiums, the more i have to agree with you about indoctrination, ari.   i
sooo feel for dedicated med students!   last week, it totally cracked me up
to learn that med students were classically taught that patients lie to them
and that med students are now, also being taught "to listen to their
patients".LOL  i did such a double take when i heard that.  like, hunh?
(it's got to be conflictingly difficult to reconcile those two things and
apply them both in one's medical practice.)  what?-- did the medical
profession discover that after years of classically trained doctors
tuning-out, what they were taught were "liars", actually caused them to miss
important information?  surprise, surprise.  well, that outcome wouldn't
have surprised me.  boy, and i have had doctors who just wouldn't listen,
and it cost me bigtime.  personally, i believe that trust has to go both
ways for a doctor/patient relationship to work.

sigh . . .   isn't it a shame how each generation has to rediscover (and
reinvent) the wisdom of past generations, instead of having that wisdom
passed onto them.  and how, what used to be straightforward becomes more
complicated.

kate
(grateful for my neurologist and pain specialist who do listen, though who
might, or might not, be dubious about what they hear, at times.  both are
keepers, until further notice.LOL  otoh, you can have my pcp and rd if you
want them.)

Regards,

Ari

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

Cindy - 21 Aug 2006 15:59 GMT
ARGH...The "YOUR TOO YOUNG" speach....
Well I am sure if it was them that was in the pain that they wouldn't be so
young...
I am not sure how to find a doctor that would help you...unless you went to
a clinic that specializes in just bone and joints...
We have a clinic like that in OK...My OS told me that too...but I think when
I am ready, my Rheumy will see to it that I get my TKR's ...
Hope you get the treatment you need...because you are WAY TOO YOUNG TO USE A
CANE to get around...I think that is what I would tell the doctors...

Cindy
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> James N
debbie m - 21 Aug 2006 22:56 GMT
James,

Try another doctor.  You shouldn't have to live in pain.  Go out of
town if you have to.

debbie m.

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> James N
Fire Chief - 22 Aug 2006 00:42 GMT
james wrote:

> My doctors won't do anything because they say I'm too young for a hip replacement.

THAT IS BULL sh.t!   THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "TOO YOUNG"!

> Any help at all would be welcome.

You have a pile of manure for "doctors".  They shouldn'd be in the
profession today.

In 1994, I met a sweet, young thing (wish I had been younger at the
time) age 29, who had 3 total joint replacements - 1 shoulder and 2
hips.

Teens are receiving them these days.

Quality of life is the key word today - not age.

Get thee some new doctor(s) who won't talk down to you, 'cause that's
exactly what the old farts are doing with you - treating you like
mushrooms (and you know how those are raised/cultivated).

... Fatal mouse error.  Feed to snake (Y/n)
Fire Chief - 22 Aug 2006 01:01 GMT
james norwood wrote:

>  My doctors won't do anything because they say I'm too young for a hip replacement.

I failed to mention that this was the attitude when hip replacement
materials had a live expectancy of 5 to 8 years.  That would have
required 5, 6, 7 surgeries in a normal lifetime if a person received
one in their 20's, 30's, 40's.

New space-age materials, thanks in large part to NASA, have extended
the live of a joint replacement to 20 to 25 years.  A youngster
receiving one would probably need only one more in their lifetime.

I had my left hip replacement at age 64.  I should have had it 5 or 6
years sooner but the former rheumatologist (RD)  I had (she also served
as my PCP) was a BITCH and negligent in patient care.  I switched PCP
within my HMO and she instantly referred me to one of the best RDs in
the county.  WIthin 6 months - after HMO approval, lab work, X-rays,
autonomous blood donations, etc. etc. -  I had my THR.   I expect it to
last forever - go to the grave with me.

I'm saying again, get new doctor(s) who aren't living in the stone
age.

This is the 21st century, not 500 B.C.

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spodosaurus - 22 Aug 2006 08:05 GMT
>  New space-age materials, thanks in large part to NASA, have extended
> the live of a joint replacement to 20 to 25 years.  A youngster
> receiving one would probably need only one more in their lifetime.

Titanium and ceramic...like the space shuttle's heat shield or the armor
on the APCs in the US Army. So, basically, these materials will last
longer than we will in some cases. Re-enter the atmosphere butt first
and at least something will hit the ground! :-)

Ari

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

baughfam@bellsouth.net - 24 Aug 2006 02:39 GMT
For curiosity, are you able to sit down
without that side of your butt hurting a lot?

> Hi,
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>
> James N
spodosaurus - 24 Aug 2006 04:53 GMT
> For curiosity, are you able to sit down
> without that side of your butt hurting a lot?

Perthes (although a disease of children, which makes me question why it
would be diagnosed after the OP was 30...) is quite different from
piriformis syndrome.

>>Hi,
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>>James N

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spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

baughfam@bellsouth.net - 25 Aug 2006 09:54 GMT
There could have been signs of Perthes having occurred,
and the resultant deformation could account for some or all
of the problem. But not likely, IMO, because of the OP's age.
My question was not related to piriformis, but rather the
prospect of iliosacral guarding. A website to consider for
hip or back pain. Shucks, others as well.
http://altmed.iatp.org.ua/pain/maps/iliosacral_pain.htm

> > For curiosity, are you able to sit down
> > without that side of your butt hurting a lot?
>
> Perthes (although a disease of children, which makes me question why it
> would be diagnosed after the OP was 30...) is quite different from
> piriformis syndrome.
jnorwood - 26 Aug 2006 08:15 GMT
I've had pain in my hip or knee since I was a teen which is why Perthes
made sense to me. Just because something isn't diagnosed correctly
doesn't make it so.

I'm not really interested in the diagnosis so much as I am interested
in stopping the pain and walking with a cane.

> There could have been signs of Perthes having occurred,
> and the resultant deformation could account for some or all
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> > would be diagnosed after the OP was 30...) is quite different from
> > piriformis syndrome.
jnorwood - 26 Aug 2006 08:13 GMT
My butt doesn't hurt at all. The pain is in the right hip and it often
radiates down to my knee.

James

> For curiosity, are you able to sit down
> without that side of your butt hurting a lot?
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> > James N
Philby - 23 Oct 2006 06:36 GMT
>My butt doesn't hurt at all. The pain is in the right hip and it often
>radiates down to my knee.
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>> > James N
Have any of your doctors done a MRI on your hip?
I certianly know what you feeling with serve pain in hip going down to
knee, and in my case left foot ( mine is left hip)
I have reactive arthrtis also know as Synovitis.
Kind of like Rhematoid Athrtis, but more linked to my immune system
being over active.

So I'm wondering if they have done a MRI scan or an arthoscope to see
what exactly is happening inside your hip.
Phil
d'huit - 14 Sep 2006 12:34 GMT
you've been given the best advice, james, by those who really do know about
these things.  so, i won't echo it.  i'll just offer
(((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))).  and welcome you to our family.

kate
Hi,

I have suffered for years with severe hip pain, including a lack of
mobility. I was told by a doctor a few years ago that I had Perthes,
though unfortunately for me it went undiagnosed for many years.

I am 34 and have been reduced to using a cane outside my home and a
walker in my home. A few days ago the pain was so severe I really just
wanted to die, I couldn't stand it any longer.

Does anyone out there know of any ways I can manage my pain? My doctors
won't do anything because they say I'm too young for a hip replacement.

Any help at all would be welcome.

James N
 
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