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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / August 2006Gout and Caffeine (Purine)
Are there people out there who know or believe their gout was caused by caffeine? I found Theobromide listed as a purine in goutpal.com and so I went looking Caffeine 1,3,7-trimethyl PURINE-2,6-dione C[8]H[10]N[4]O[2] Theobromine 3,7-dimethyl PURINE-2,6-dione C[7]H[ 8]N[4]O[2] Theophyline 1,3-dimethyl-7H-PURINE-2,6-dione C[7]H[ 8]N[4]O[2] I've been taking 1gm caffeine (coffee, tea, gurana, vivarin, nodoz, red bull, you name it) a day from age 22-44. This is the "official" definition of gout: http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanual/section5/chapter55/55a.jsp This is a "support group" for gout: http://www.goutpal.com/ Ironically, I've seen web sites claiming caffeine and/or guarana helps gout. If the pain is enough , you may want to learn to fast . I and many have used it to stop problems . 1) brain will create more pain for you are starving the body . At least thats what the simple "protection" brain thinks . But when you tell it " My stomach lining is now touching itself and my blood sugar is normal and i did this glucose on 1/2 glass O.J. and 1/2 slice of white bread a day .... 2) the big one that i dont like is after you go so low you start burning fat . That hurts bad ,. Most recent , 2004 i curred upper ulcers . Looking back it was so stupid of me to overeat and raise the acid/food level to a part of the stom' that can't tolerate food ( your stomach must NEVER be full ) . In 48 hours i could eat / drink anything , pain gone ! Colds /Bacterial infections respond to fasting , your body does not need food to combat these ..... > Are there people out there who know or believe > their gout was caused by caffeine? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Ironically, I've seen web sites claiming > caffeine and/or guarana helps gout. >Are there people out there who know or believe >their gout was caused by caffeine? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Theobromine 3,7-dimethyl PURINE-2,6-dione C[7]H[ 8]N[4]O[2] >Theophyline 1,3-dimethyl-7H-PURINE-2,6-dione C[7]H[ 8]N[4]O[2] Good to know, I gave up coffee long ago but drink tea with all of the above - and the theobromine is chocolate? Oy. Thanks! J. > Ironically, I've seen web sites claiming > caffeine and/or guarana helps gout. Caffeine can act as a diuretic in some people, which may help gout (if you don't have a renal obstruction or something that would contraindicate a diuretic). The fact that it is purine is not necessarily relevant, because the effective dose for a drug effect is so small. Your intake of reduced nitrogen from food (proteins and nucleic acids) is likely to dwarf the contribution from caffeine. That said, it also matters why you have gout. If you have kidney failure, it may be necessary to restrict all sources of reduced nitrogen, including caffeine. In my case, my gout attacks have always been dietary -- usually from overeating meat. After the last one, I've been very careful to limit my meat consumption and I haven't had another attack. >> Ironically, I've seen web sites claiming >> caffeine and/or guarana helps gout. > Caffeine can act as a diuretic in some people, > which may help gout GOUT Diet 3. A person with gout does not need to avoid coffee and tea. Alcohol consumed in moderation (i.e., about 2 ounces of hard liquor, a can of beer, or a glass of wine per day) is permitted. Too much alcohol may be associated with hyperuricemia, and may bring on a gout attack. Group A: Foods containing a high purine concentration (AVOID) Liver Sweetbreads Brains Fish roe Kidney Heart Sardines Herring gravies/broths Mussels Anchovies Group B: Foods containing moderate amounts of purine (1 serving a day) Meats Whole grain cereals Fowl Fish/seafood Yeast Peas, cauliflower, lentils, beans, asparagus, mushrooms, spinich Group C: Foods containing negligible amounts of purine, which are not subject to limitation. Vegetables (except as noted above) Nuts Fruits Milk Cheese Eggs Vegetable soups (clear) Spices and condiments, including salt and vinegar Refined cerals and cereal products Butter and fats (in moderation) Sugar and sweets The Arthritis Foundation ... When an eel bites your toe and it lights up your nose, that's a moray. |
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