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Jennifer Massey-Howe - 10 Aug 2006 19:56 GMT
Saw my doctor today, she confirmed I have what is called Zero-Negative
Rheumatoid Arthritis.  She is putting me on Methotrexate 10mg a week and
Relafin and keeping me on the prednisone lowering from 5mg to 2.5mg to see
if that will be low enough for me or not.

On top of all that is going on having a very bad day.  My DH doesn't
understand how much the pain can be sometimes and how badly it can get to me
and make me fustrated.  I do love him but not sure how to make him
understand that there are some things I just can't do anymore.  One of them
is to take my son down the steps.  He is only 14 months and since May when
everything started acting up I have not been able to get him down the stairs
in the morning.  I am afraid that I will be walking down the steps and fall
with or without him.  Now my DH wants to leave me because he can't handle
the sudden overflow of things and all I really want from him is his support
at this point.

Jennifer
Meg - 10 Aug 2006 22:27 GMT
> > On top of all that is going on having a very bad day.  My DH doesn't
> understand how much the pain can be sometimes and how badly it can get to me
> and make me fustrated.  I do love him but not sure how to make him
> understand that there are some things I just can't do anymore.

Hi Jen:

Yikes, hubby wants to bolt, huh?  Wowzer ... that must really break
your heart.  I recall when that happened to me years ago.  There were
too many straws on my DH's back (like a camel) and eventually the
camel's back broke ( he left for 7 months).  My OA and clinical
depression then just got to much for him to handle.  He thought the
grass was greener on the other side.  It wasn't.  It was a blessing
when we reconciled and our marriage is stronger than ever.  It is
amazing how we take our marriages for granted.  Some more than others
.... quite often the spouse watching the sick person and feeling
helpless.  Family reacts severely when we become chronically ill.

Bottom line - When I came down with FMS/CFS/SS/DDD I gave my DH and
family any and all the infomation I could find on my *invisible
illnesses* and tried to have an open dialog with him whenever possible.
There is a good web site about *invisible diseases*:
http://www.myida.org/index.html

Also, the Arthritis Foundation has a book written by a husband who was
extremely affected by his wife's chronic Illness, "Beyand Chaos: One
Man's Journey Alongside His Chronically Ill Wife"
http://www.arthritis.org/afstore/singleproduct.asp?idCat=&idSubCat=&idproduct=2746

Yes, it was very hard to ask for help back then.  I was afraid to ask
and I got angry at myself.  Time has healed that part of my life.  It
is part of the grieving process.  Your family, I pray, will adjust and
take on more resposibilities, Jennifer. Mine had to.  They saw my pain
... I asked for help, I grieved.  Life is getting better for me.

> One of them is to take my son down the steps.  He is only 14 months and since May > when everything started acting up I have not been able to get him down the stairs
> in the morning.  I am afraid that I will be walking down the steps and fall
> with or without him.

BTW - your 14 month old can scoot down the stairway feet first and be
fairly safe.  You go first and watch him. Her?  Babies can do more on
their own at that age.  My youngest son had to as a toddler.  Make it a
game.  They love that.

> Now my DH wants to leave me because he can't handle the sudden overflow of things  > and all I really want from him is his support at this point.

I feel helpless about your situation with you DH.  Do you have an
Arthritis Support Group near you?  Will your DH go to the doctor with
you to hear the situation from him/her rather than you.  Sometimes just
a little nudge from another person will make sense to our family.  They
might not believe us in the beginning but will accept it from a doctor
or nurse. Go figure.

I will put you and your little family in my *prayer bubble*, Jennifer.

Warm Thoughs and Breezes,
Meg
Jennifer Massey-Howe - 10 Aug 2006 22:45 GMT
Ty, he hasn't learned how to scoot yet down the steps, I have shown him a
few times but he still hasn't gotten it figured out yet.  He was a bit
premature at birth and is about a month behind other 14 month olds.

Jennifer

>> > On top of all that is going on having a very bad day.  My DH doesn't
>> understand how much the pain can be sometimes and how badly it can get to
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> Warm Thoughs and Breezes,
> Meg
Nann Bell - 11 Aug 2006 15:28 GMT
Hey, Jennifer, Meg had lots of really wise words.  I just want to add a few
thoughts.  Now in my case, my arthrtis preceeded meeting my husband so he
knew what he was getting into - in fact Newsweek had a cover article on RA
about a month after we started dating that he kept for years as it helped him
understand what was going on with me.  (My dx later changed to PA, but they
are similar enough.)  He also was able to see how my whole family deals with
chronic illness as each of us has at least one chronic illness going on.  
Still, there are times when he just doesn't want to deal with it because he
so deeply wants to "fix" me and there just isn't anything he can do about the
underlying disease.

It took me a while to get through to him that sometimes a big hug and a
little help around the house REALLY is what I need most and how he can help
me the most.  NOw that he finally understands a big hug really helps me
relieve stress, regain courage and strength and generally feel better, he'll
stop just about whatever he's doing when I declare, "I need a hug!" because
it's something he *can* do.

It is so hard to watch someone you love suffer, even more so when there is
nothing you can do that directly makes the person feel better.  Perhaps that
is what bothers you husband so much.  I don't know what the best way to
address it with him would be, but perhaps if you can get a conversation about
that possible desire to want to "fix" things, it will help the situation
between the two of you.  We've reached the point that I can see it in my
husband's eyes when he's wishing he could cure me and I try at those times to
thank him for what he DOES do.  just thoughts..........

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>>> On top of all that is going on having a very bad day.  My DH doesn't
>> understand how much the pain can be sometimes and how badly it can get to
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> Warm Thoughs and Breezes,
> Meg
debbie m - 10 Aug 2006 22:45 GMT
Jennifer,

I'm am so sorry that you are going through this.  It is enough that you
have RA and your life will never be the same it was.  Not bad, just
different.  But you are trying to make these changes.

You will learn to do things differently over time to make do with
everyday living.  This will take time.  My mother had JRA and rasied
three children.  You will be able to also.  Just differently.  You are
still a good mother.

As for your husband.  You can try and educate him as much as possible,
but that is all you can do.  My ex never got it and still doesn't.  I
have raised a disabled daughter and still need his help sometimes, but
is never without him complaining.

As far as the stress I've been much better off on my own.  My stress
level is down and make my pain level down.  Don't give up on him yet,
Offer all the educational material, take him to your doctor, etc.  Then
there is nothing more you can do.  I wish you the best of luck,

debbie m.

> Saw my doctor today, she confirmed I have what is called Zero-Negative
> Rheumatoid Arthritis.  She is putting me on Methotrexate 10mg a week and
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> Jennifer
Diane - 10 Aug 2006 23:05 GMT
jennifer,
you've gotten some good advice. i just wanted to add my sympathy. it's
got to be so hard for you right now. i want to drop kick spouses who
don't understand, but this must be a scary and uncertain time for him,
too. i LOVE the idea of having him go to the doctor with you. he needs
to hear from someone other than you that your pain is real.

by the way, it's SERO-negative RA, which means you don't have the RA
factor showing up in your blood. i'm also sero-negative. it still hurts
every bit as much!

diane
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 11 Aug 2006 01:18 GMT
Jennifer, I'm sorry but I got a chuckle from zero-negative. It's
sero-negative, hon, meaning the blood tests don't show it, but your physical
symptoms and maybe your xrays do.

It took my hubby having a bulging disk before he truly understood the daily
pain I'm in. At first he would never say anything but by his attitude I
could tell he just didn't get it. He hurt his back and after about two days
he said, "How do you DO this day after day?" From that time to this he
watches over me carefully - not getting in the way, but ready without my
asking to help. He does all the vacuuming, sweeping, carrying, etc., even
with his back. He tells me,  "You wanna be out of service for a week? Let me
do that." I have to watch over him, too! LOL

I'm gonna have to say the same thing the others have.....educate the man.
Give him things to read and take him to your doctor. Sometimes you may have
to bash them on the head to get them there, but they tend to believe other
people before they'll believe us.

Hugs - DeeTee

> Saw my doctor today, she confirmed I have what is called Zero-Negative
> Rheumatoid Arthritis.  She is putting me on Methotrexate 10mg a week and
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> Jennifer
Fire Chief - 11 Aug 2006 02:43 GMT
> I'm gonna have to say the same thing the others have.....educate the man.
> Give him things to read and take him to your doctor. Sometimes you may have
> to bash them on the head to get them there, but they tend to believe other
> people before they'll believe us.

Works the other way, too.

Since we met, Mary has been to every doctor appointment I've had.
I introduce her as my "hearing aid" since I have a severe loss.  She's
witnessed 2 biopsies, several DRE's, knee and sholder injections,
everything that didn't involve X-rays/CT/DXEA exams.

When we return home, we can compare notes to determine how
many instructions I didn't correctly understand.

...  Charter member of the Obsolete Equipment Club of America.
Cindy - 11 Aug 2006 15:02 GMT
It does help when you have a spouse that suffers some sort of
disability...but fortunately everyone in the world doesn't have one...
I pray that your husband "Grows Up" a little...enough to try and find out
what your day is like and care enough to learn to handle it...
It is hard enough to live with these DD's taking care of ourselves without
taking care of a toddler and a husband...
You have gotten some good advice here..
In his defense...It is hard enough for us to learn to accept our disease and
our limitations...I have FM, OA and DDD...And I still go through the cycle
of Denial,grieving, and acceptance...And not understanding...So I know it is
hard for someone that doesn't suffer to understand...
But I am fortunate..That my husband and my family probably accepts it better
than I do...
So I am sending my prayers and hugs that your husband will come around...and
if he doesn't...Then as painful as it is...The removing yourself from the
stress of him not understanding...will probably make your life easier in the
long run...

Lots of hugs
Cindy
> Saw my doctor today, she confirmed I have what is called Zero-Negative
> Rheumatoid Arthritis.  She is putting me on Methotrexate 10mg a week and
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> Jennifer
Squirrely - 11 Aug 2006 15:06 GMT
Oh Jennifer,

I am sorry you are going thru this. I wish our spouses would get with the
program. It is not like we want our bodies to be like this. We would change
in a minute if we could. None of like being like this.

I can understand your concern about bringing  your son down the steps. That
would be scary. You just never know.

I hope the meds work for you and that you get better quickly.

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> Saw my doctor today, she confirmed I have what is called Zero-Negative
> Rheumatoid Arthritis.  She is putting me on Methotrexate 10mg a week and
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> Jennifer
Jennifer Massey-Howe - 12 Aug 2006 05:41 GMT
I would like to thank everyone for their advice, I have actually let my DH
read a few of what you have said.  Because of the 2 kids he has not attended
a doctor's appt.  I go back in September and maybe I can take him into going
with me.  Maybe that will help him understand what is going on and actually
how much pain I really am in some days.

Today actually has been a good day for me (Friday).  I have been able to do
more then I have in the last few weeks.  In fact I've been almost pain free
today for once.  Have a little bit of pain in my fingers but otherwise doing
good.

Jennifer

> Oh Jennifer,
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>> Jennifer
Kate - 12 Aug 2006 14:48 GMT
If you have a local arthritis organization they may teach an Arthritis
Self-Help class- which covers many important topics on living with
arthur. Ours are 6 weeks of 2 hour classes (1 per week). You get a
wonderful book, great support and best of all your hubby could attend
free. (cost is $35 and you get the book) You both would learn and he
may feel more comfortable with what is happening. Mine was freaked out
too initially- didn't take it seriously. We have both learned and
survived. Good luck, I'll keep ya in my prayers. Kate
> Saw my doctor today, she confirmed I have what is called Zero-Negative
> Rheumatoid Arthritis.  She is putting me on Methotrexate 10mg a week and
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> Jennifer
 
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