Cingular to Impose $5 Surcharge on Customers
With Older Phones
07-31-2006 2:52 PM
By BRUCE MEYERSON, AP Business Writer
NEW YORK -- About 4.7 million Cingular Wireless
subscribers with older phones will have to pay
$5 extra each month as the company tries to prod
them to get new handsets so it can devote its
entire network to one type of signal.
The new surcharge, unique among the major U.S.
carriers, will be added to bills starting in
September, the company told The Associated Press
on Monday.
Cingular, jointly owned by prospective merger
partners AT&T Inc. and BellSouth Corp., reported
earlier this month that roughly 92 percent of
its 57.3 million customers use phones based on
the globally dominant technology known as GSM,
or Global System for Mobile.
The rest have handsets based on one of two older
technologies. One dates back two decades to the
first-generation of mobile phones, which used an
"analog," or non-digital, signal to transmit
calls. The second is a digital transmission
technique known as TDMA, which stands for Time
Division Multiple Access.
The new fee, which will generate $23.5 million a
month for Cingular, adds to a confusing array of
surcharges and government taxes that, regardless
of the wireless company, can boost the average
cellular bill by up to 50 percent from the
advertised rate.
Like other U.S. cellular carriers, Cingular is
required by the Federal Communications
Commission to keep providing analog service
until early 2008 so long as it still has
customers with those phones.
Although the company is not required to continue
providing TDMA service, it has no plans to turn
off that service until the analog phaseout
because both use the same portion of Cingular's
network.
Nonetheless, having to carry three different
kinds of wireless signals leaves less room for
Cingular to connect calls and provide data
services to its much larger audience of GSM
customers.
That network capacity is crucial because
Cingular is trying to shake a reputation for
poor service, boasting in national ad campaigns
that its customers suffer the fewest dropped
calls. Cingular's image was tarnished after its
acquisition in late 2004 of AT&T Wireless
Services, a merger that required the complex
integration of two disparate networks.
In early July, a federal lawsuit was filed
claiming Cingular promised to provide
uninterrupted service to AT&T Wireless
subscribers, but instead degraded their phone
reception in an effort to persuade them to sign
new contracts.
Cingular strongly refuted the claims in the
lawsuit, which seeks class-action status on
behalf of the more than 20 million customers
AT&T Wireless had at the time of the merger.
Many paid $18 "transfer" fees to switch to
Cingular plans and were required to buy new
phones or pay other fees, according to the
complaint, filed in U.S. District Court in
Seattle.
On Monday, Cingular issued a statement to AP
saying that with the number of analog and TDMA
users dwindling, "the per-customer cost of using
that network is increasing considerably. That's
why we made a decision to impose this charge."
The statement stressed that, "Customers can
avoid the charge by switching to our GSM network
and equipment. The combination of coverage,
service quality, devices, and advanced features
on GSM is superior to TDMA."
Verizon Wireless, jointly owned by Verizon
Communications Inc. and Vodafone Group PLC,
serves most of its 54.8 million subscribers with
a different digital wireless technology known as
"CDMA," but still has an undisclosed number of
analog customers. Those users are not charged an
extra fee.
Sprint Nextel Corp. has no analog subscribers on
either of its two networks, which were built
later than those at Verizon and Cingular and use
digital technologies. The Sprint network uses
CDMA, while Nextel employs a standard called
iDEN.
... Why in a country of free speech, are there phone bills?
Bud - 01 Aug 2006 19:48 GMT
> NEW YORK -- About 4.7 million Cingular Wireless
> subscribers with older phones will have to pay
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> September, the company told The Associated Press
> on Monday.
Me, I'm getting a new provider.
Nann Bell - 01 Aug 2006 20:04 GMT
When we decided we needed to give in and buy a cell phone to improve Mike's
accessibility to parishioners, we wanted a pay-as-you-go plan which meant our
choices were Cingular's GoFone and TracFone. A bit of research showed that
Cingular's service had the lowest customer satisfaction of the major
carriers. Reading this makes me even more glad we opted for the TracFone!
Snd now that I read about all the surcharges on the typical bill, I feel
better about our cost per minute.
heehee, my mom recommended her plan with Verizon which is fairly inexpensive
but, as my brother pointed out, it is only available in more populous areas -
meaning *people*, not deer!

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Jackson - 01 Aug 2006 21:15 GMT
: When we decided we needed to give in and buy a cell phone to improve Mike's
: accessibility to parishioners, we wanted a pay-as-you-go plan which meant our
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: but, as my brother pointed out, it is only available in more populous areas -
: meaning *people*, not deer!
Tmobile doesn't have the most reliable signal but it does have pay as you go
also.
Nann Bell - 02 Aug 2006 04:17 GMT
>> heehee, my mom recommended her plan with Verizon which is fairly
> inexpensive
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> Tmobile doesn't have the most reliable signal but it does have pay as you go
> also.
not available here - would all be roaming. See above about populous areas.
LOL Our county has 10,000 people and an estimated 30,000 deer and 15,000
elk!

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Fire Chief - 02 Aug 2006 06:03 GMT
> Our county has 10,000 people and an estimated 30,000 deer and 15,000 elk!
When is hunting season? <g>
... Vegetarian: Indian word for "lousy hunter."
Nann Bell - 03 Aug 2006 04:44 GMT
>> Our county has 10,000 people and an estimated 30,000 deer and 15,000 elk!
>
> When is hunting season? <g>
>
> ... Vegetarian: Indian word for "lousy hunter."
which one? Firearm deer season begins November 15th, locally known as "St.
Antler's Day"! Lots of folk around here bow hunt though - longer season and
if you hunt out of season the warden's less likely to hear you.
saying seen in the past: I'm a vegetarian not because I LOVE animals, but
because I HATE plants!

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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 01 Aug 2006 23:07 GMT
We've never had any problems with our Cingular phones, but are due for an
upgrade anyway. More reason now.
BTW - we are in the group of former AT&T customers, so if the courts impose
a settlement, we should get a cut. That would be really, really nice!
DeeTee
> Cingular to Impose $5 Surcharge on Customers
> With Older Phones
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>
> ... Why in a country of free speech, are there phone bills?
Carole - 03 Aug 2006 06:36 GMT
FYI, it's not all the former AT&T customers, just those with TDMA
phones. Most people who bought their phones within the past 5 years have
GSM phones.
I worked at AT&T Wireless and I would say that 98% of the customer
service calls I took were for GSM phones. There were so few TDMA
customers that we just got minimal training on those systems. And I
never got an analog call at all. We weren't even trained for those.
As for the lawsuit, I wouldn't spend the money quite yet. It's going to
be very hard to prove that Cingular downgraded service. Most people
wanted to stay with their AT&T Wireless rate plans as they had free
nights starting at 7pm and free weekends, free mobile to mobile, tons of
extra minutes, etc. The problems arose when Cingular went to new phones
with 64K SIM cards, and they stopped carrying phones that would work on
the AT&T SIM card. The Cingular plans were no where near as good as the
AT&T plans and people were upset. I remember a call from a woman who had
waited out here Cingular contract so that she could switch to AT&T
Wireless, only to find out a few months later that she was back on
Cingular. She was not a happy camper.
As for customer service on pay as you go phones - for some reason in the
US pay as you go customers are looked down on. In Europe, that is not
the case. I have a TMobile pay as you go simply because I do not use the
phone except for emergencies. At one point, I was so ticked off with
TMobile's customer service that I emailed them especially regarding the
fact that pay as you go customers could not log on their website to
check their accounts. They have since changed that and I am finding that
when I call customer service, they are a lot nicer and more helpful.
Carole