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myselfanew - 21 Jul 2006 20:04 GMT

Hi all:

I have been diagnosed with orthoarthritis from L1 to S1. I have been
going to the chiro, acupunture, massage and it only helps for a couple
of hours. For the past few months I have been getting depressed
because
I can hardly do anything around the house. I have gone to the doctor
and they prescribe antiinflamatory meds ( do not help) Celebrx has
aspiring I have serious reaction to it.....so what are my options? The
only thing I have read is how people are addicts to some
medication......but no real information.......A friend of mine is
taking Tramadol. Is this the same as percocet? is it addictive? I once
took percocet after surgery and it helped a great deal with the pain
but I remember it gave me wierd feeling. I did not like this at all.
Is
tramadol the same?

Thanks and have a great day...

myselfanew

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Fire Chief - 21 Jul 2006 22:06 GMT

> Hi all:
> I have been diagnosed with orthoarthritis

When? And by what doctor? You mentioned "chiro, acupunture,
massage" but nothing about a rheumatologist (RD or rheumy) who
is a specialist with arthritis.

> .....so what are my options? The only thing I have read is how
> people are addicts to some medication......but no real information.......

Some people develop a "dependence" on their arthritis meds,
but that is not the same as "addiction."

> A friend of mine is taking Tramadol. is it addictive?

Only narcotic drugs are addictive.

> Is tramadol the same?

I can't access them from where I am, but you can try either or
both of these sites for drug information.

http://www.rxlist.com
http://www.fda.gov

> Thanks and have a great day...

Thank you for visiting A.S.A. Please hang around and continue
to post your questions. We're not doctors and we can't make a
diagnosis or offer too much medical information without running
afoul of state/federal regulators.
But we can give cyber {{{{{{ hugs }}}}}} and relate our own
experiences.

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jackson - 21 Jul 2006 22:13 GMT

: Hi all:
:
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: and they prescribe antiinflamatory meds ( do not help) Celebrx has
: aspiring I have serious reaction to it.....so what are my options?

I have reactions to Celebrex also, so I stopped taking it.

The

: only thing I have read is how people are addicts to some
: medication......but no real information.......A friend of mine is
: taking Tramadol. Is this the same as percocet? is it addictive?

Tramadol is not the same as percocet. Tramadol is a non-narcodic
pain medication. It _IS_ addicting and states so on the pamphlet. I've
taken Tramadol for pain, it does quite well. I was taking 150mg 3x a
day and when I stopped without tapering down I had restless legs at
night, the shakes and upset stomach. Took about 3 days before it
stopped. Another friend of mine stated the same thing when he stopped
too.

Percocet is a narcodic and also is addicting.

Folks who have chronic real pain, often do not get addicting. I do better
and can stop/start percocet and/or morphine without problems better then
I did Tramadol, which is why I switched.

I once

: took percocet after surgery and it helped a great deal with the pain
: but I remember it gave me wierd feeling. I did not like this at all.

After a week or so those eurphoric feelings subside when taking percocet
most times. I've found out that pain meds don't kill pain all the way, they
just dope you up so you don't care. :)

: Is
: tramadol the same?
:
: Thanks and have a great day...
:
: myselfanew

Take care.

-Jackson

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johnie - 21 Jul 2006 22:58 GMT

>The
> only thing I have read is how people are addicts to some
> medication......but no real information.......

If we are going to give info to folks lets keep it accurate please.
This is a battle we all have to fight because of our chronic pain and
peoples bias about opiodes which are the safest pain relievers
available.

ONE PERCENT of patients that take narcotic pain medication get
addicted. It has remained at ONE PERCENT for more than a decade. This
information is widely available.

high desert accurate hugs,
johnie

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spodosaurus - 22 Jul 2006 19:16 GMT

> Hi all:
>
> I have been diagnosed with orthoarthritis

Could someone here please let me know if orthoarthritis is another name
for a form of arthritis that's easier to find information about?

> from L1 to S1. I have been
> going to the chiro, acupunture, massage and it only helps for a couple
> of hours.

While these may be worth trying for /some/ people, particularly massage,
they are adjunctive therapies and should not take the place of proper
medical care from a rheumatologist, as FireChief has already pointed
out. Your GP may be able to help with the management of the arthritis,
but he should be assisting the treatment program set out by (or in
conjunction with) your rheumatologist.

> For the past few months I have been getting depressed
> because
> I can hardly do anything around the house.

I know how that feels, mate.

> I have gone to the doctor
> and they prescribe antiinflamatory meds ( do not help) Celebrx has
> aspiring I have serious reaction to it.....so what are my options?

Could you please retype that sentence? I'm not sure exactly what you're
trying to say, and details are important here.

> The
> only thing I have read is how people are addicts to some
> medication......but no real information.......A friend of mine is
> taking Tramadol.

That would have been a good medication for me, if it didn't leave me
feeling utterly seasick!

> Is this the same as percocet?

> is it addictive?

Not really. It's not heroin, and it's not very addictive at all, but
neither are the other opiate based pain killers if taken only as needed
and in doses designed to prevent you becoming resistant to the effects
of the medication (and thus requiring larger doses over time, but this
may be necessary as your condition worsens, which is partially
preventable). Painkillers help deal with the pain, and although the
press commonly refer to anti-inflamatory medications as 'painkillers'
they are NOT the same thing. Anti-inflamatory drugs reduce the
inflamation which is slowly damaging the joints (or worsenning the
damage) and thus treat the problem, not the symptom.

> I once
> took percocet after surgery and it helped a great deal with the pain
> but I remember it gave me wierd feeling.

Different pain medications affect each person in different ways. This is
largely dosage dependent, though.

> I did not like this at all.
> Is
> tramadol the same?

Probably not at a reasonable dosage, but on the other hand it could give
you an entirely different 'wierd feeling' as it's a different compound.
I really must reiterate that you need to see a rheumatologist to get
started on a treatment for the /arthritis/, and not just a medication to
help manage the pain.

>
> Thanks and have a great day...
>
> myselfanew

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