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Sharon - 10 Jul 2006 16:07 GMT
    Hi, I lurk on here alot and post only occasionally.  In the last few
years I've had trouble with my voice.  When I went to an ENT, she did a few
tests and found that my vocal chords are all "floppy".  Instead of being taut
like guitar strings, the ligaments holding my chords seem to be not doing the
job.  They're so bad that one side of the chords are almost overlapping the
other side, and when I try to make a high pitched noise, like "eeee", they
barely tighten up at all.  The result is that I'm extremely hoarse and I strain
alot to speak.
    The ENT decided that I don't have any nerve damage so maybe it's caused
by GERD or acid reflux.  I have reflux on rare occasions, but I'm pretty sure I
don't have it regularly.  I've been told that I could have GERD without any
apparent symptoms, but that it can burn the esophagus and vocal chords and
cause this kind of damage.  Since I've been taking various NSAIDS for many
years, and high doses of aspirin for years before that, this could be a
distinct possibility.
    Have any of you had this problem?  Were you able to do anything to
reverse the damage to your voice?  Surgery?

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- Sharon
"Gravity...  is a harsh mistress!"

RoseB - 10 Jul 2006 16:52 GMT
I have the sort of voice impairment you mentioned. I am a teacher and
have used my voice a great deal over the years, but  the ENT maintains
that it is RA and GERD that have damaged my vocal cords. While I can
not elaborate on the condition of my vocal cords to the depth that you
can, I can say that if I try to sing or do anything in a higher pitch
there is no voice. It is extremely frustrating for me.

I uses PPIs for the GERD- I was on prevacid for years and the dose was
increased to twice a day. I am now experimenting with pantoloc and
nexium to determine which is more effective for me.

There was a study that suggested that most RA patients will have
damage to their vocal cords as a result.

I have not considered surgery.
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Kelly - 10 Jul 2006 17:24 GMT
I owe you a phone call Rose.  Am almost rested up after my long weekend with
my nephew - we spent Friday together watching Fred Penner at Folkfest, on
the ferries, and grocery shopping and cooking.  My brother and sister in law
arrived Friday night and they left Sunday.  I had gone over on Thursday
night and visited my mom and sister and picked him up at 7:30 am Friday to
bring him back here.  We had a great time but it pushed me to the limit.

We might have an offer on the house tomorrow so will start to look for a
house this week - have 4 to look at.  Keep your fingers crossed. They spent
half and hour on Wednesday and an hour yesterday looking at different things
in the house.  Apparently are going to phone back within the next 2 days.

Off to quilting in a couple of minutes - my rest for the week.

Kelly
>I have the sort of voice impairment you mentioned. I am a teacher and
> have used my voice a great deal over the years, but  the ENT maintains
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RoseB - 10 Jul 2006 20:25 GMT
>I owe you a phone call Rose.

I will call you. I was just waiting for your company to leave. I
though the evening would be best.
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Sharon - 10 Jul 2006 17:27 GMT
> I have the sort of voice impairment you mentioned. I am a teacher and
> have used my voice a great deal over the years, but  the ENT maintains
> that it is RA and GERD that have damaged my vocal cords. While I can
> not elaborate on the condition of my vocal cords to the depth that you
> can, I can say that if I try to sing or do anything in a higher pitch
> there is no voice. It is extremely frustrating for me.

    Yes, that sounds exactly like my problem!  At first I just coudn't sing
or make high-pitched sounds, but in the last few weeks it's become hard to
even talk without a lot of strain.
    The first test the ENT did on me was insert an otolaryngoscope, and
that's how I know the chords are "floppy".  She showed me a picture of normal
chords, and then showed me mine.  Mine are very abnormal.

> I uses PPIs for the GERD- I was on prevacid for years and the dose was
> increased to twice a day. I am now experimenting with pantoloc and
> nexium to determine which is more effective for me.
>
> There was a study that suggested that most RA patients will have
> damage to their vocal cords as a result.

    Do you have any other symptoms of GERD?  Have you found that the
medications have helped your voice at all?  I tried Nexium only for a few weeks
last summer because the Lodine I was taking started to burn my stomach.  I
could feel it.  Now I'm taking Relafen instead and no longer feel my stomach
burning, so I don't take any stomach meds.
    Although I know many problems can't be felt until the damage is beyond
repair (like RSI), I have a problem taking a drug for something when I can't
feel any difference with or without.  How do you know it's working?

- Sharon
"Gravity...  is a harsh mistress!"
Ann - 10 Jul 2006 17:38 GMT
My voice has deteriorated over the years and I can no longer sing at all
or even speak in a high pitch voice.  Since I don't have GERD, I would
think it's part of the RA (at least I'll blame it on that).  A few years
ago I went to an ENT for a hearing/tinnitus problem and mentioned my
voice to him but he didn't do any testing to find a reason.

Ann
RoseB - 10 Jul 2006 20:24 GMT
I do feel the acid and even with the acid controllers, I still
sometimes have that burning sensation. I would have terrible heartburn
without the acid controlling med.
I believe in my case it is a combination of Ra damaged vocal chords,
and also the damage from the reflux.In addition are the effects from
Sjogren's (sicca)) syndrome that accompanies RA.
It does become somewhat better when I am not using my voice.My class
is lucky, I can not raise my voice.
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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 10 Jul 2006 21:15 GMT
I am a singer - solo, duet, etc. My gerd was so bad at first that I had to
completely STOP singing for one full year. It was soooooo hard to sit in
church on Sunday and not sing the hymns with everyone else, but I did it and
can now sing again. Still, if I sing too much in one session, my voice
hurts. Not my throat, my voice. I find it difficult to talk. So, yes, you
are not the only person to have this. It sounds as though you are in the
first stages, though, and have not yet started to heal.

DeeTee

> Hi, I lurk on here alot and post only occasionally.  In the last few
> years I've had trouble with my voice.  When I went to an ENT, she did a
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> Have any of you had this problem?  Were you able to do anything to
> reverse the damage to your voice?  Surgery?
Sharon - 10 Jul 2006 22:09 GMT
> I am a singer - solo, duet, etc. My gerd was so bad at first that I had to
> completely STOP singing for one full year. It was soooooo hard to sit in
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>
> DeeTee

    DeeTee, how did you get healed?  I worked with a speech therapist a
little bit, but I didn't feel that it helped.  Conversely I notice that when I
go a long time without talking, it's even harder to talk until my voice gets a
little warmed up.

    Does anyone have any links to studies about how RA damages the vocal
chords?  Until recently I've never heard that this was possible.  I don't doubt
you all, but I'm getting pretty frustrated.  I have a very customer service
oriented IT job and it's a REAL trial talking on the phone the last week or
two.  My throat feels tense all the time and the more I try to talk, the more
strained it feels.  But my job really requires that I talk to people.

    Would you guys suggest that I have more patience with the speech
therapy exercises and try a course of Nexium or something?  It was just odd
before, but now it's a real problem.

Sharon
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 11 Jul 2006 01:38 GMT
I got healed with prescription Prilosec (now OTC) and NO spicy foods at all
and NO singing and only essential talking. My esophagus was acid burned.
They didn't say anything about my vocal cords, but they hurt!

DeeTee

>> I am a singer - solo, duet, etc. My gerd was so bad at first that I had
>> to
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>
> Sharon
RoseB - 11 Jul 2006 05:26 GMT
>    Does anyone have any links to studies about how RA damages the vocal
>chords?  Until recently I've never heard that this was possible.

Her are some for starters:
I have not actually read these, they are just from a quick google
search.
check:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1
759587&dopt=Abstract


http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/40/5/593

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=6
466395&dopt=Citation


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1
5761726&dopt=Abstract


http://www.springerlink.com/(b5g11bip5wadf1uslkmhnqzx)/app/home/contribution.asp
?referrer=parent&backto=issue,1,17;journal,15,153;linkingpublicationresults,1:10
1577,1


http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0034-72992005000400017&l
ng=pt&nrm=&tlng=en

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RoseB - 11 Jul 2006 05:34 GMT
>http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0034-72992005000400017&l
ng=pt&nrm=&tlng=en

I should have added, this last one seems good, it has pictures and a
bit more info. Although it deals with SLE, it does mention:

However, laryngeal involvement is not exclusive of SLE. In a study
with 45 patients with fairly severe rheumatoid arthritis (RA)
submitted to indirect laryngoscopy, Lawry et al.4 detected
abnormalities in 52% of cases.
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RoseB - 11 Jul 2006 06:12 GMT
OK Here is a googled cut/paste version of an article that was posted
on alt.support. arthritis in 2000. I can not find a link to the
article, so instead just cut and pasted it here. This should help
answer some of your questions.

ALLERGIC AND IMMUNE DISORDERS OF THE LARYNX
James A. Koufman, M.D.

(This article is reprinted from Koufman JA: Infectious and
inflammatory
diseases of the larynx, in Ballenger JJ, Snow JB, Eds.
Otorhinolaryngology Fifteenth edition, Chapter 30, pp. 535-555,
Williams
and Wilkins (Lea & Febiger) Philadelphia, 1996)

AUTOIMMUNE DISORDERS

This group of disorders is heterogeneous; however, altered immunity is
the common denominator.

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Rheumatoid arthritis is a systemic autoimmune disorder of unknown
cause,
which can affect any organ in the body. Its most common manifestation
is
symmetrical polyarthritis, but, it also can cause inflammation in
nonjoint structures, vasculitis, and pulmonary changes.3 Rheumatoid
arthritis may affect the larynx both directly and indirectly.

First, rheumatoid involvement of the cricoarytenoid joints may cause
hoarseness or airway obstruction. At post-mortem examination, up to
87%
of patients with rheumatoid arthritis have cricoarytenoid joint
changes,
but, based on laryngoscopy, only 17-33% of such patients have clinical
signs of laryngeal involvement, namely posterior laryngeal
inflammation
and decreased arytenoid mobility.4

Second, rheumatoid nodules may occur anywhere in the larynx or within
the substance of the vocal cord itself, leading to hoarseness. The
gross
appearance of rheumatoid laryngeal nodules is variable. They may
appear
as white submucosal nodules, as ulcerated friable polypoid lesions, or
as ill-defined masses deep within the substance of the vocal cords.
Occasionally, unsuspected rheumatoid nodules are discovered during
direct laryngoscopy by palpation of a nodule within the vocal cord.

Histologically, these lesions show a central area of fibrinoid
necrosis
surrounded by histiocytes, plasma cells, and lymphocytes. They can be
highly vascularized and hyalinized; they may have a fibrous capsule.
Frequently, rheumatoid nodules of the larynx are misdiagnosed as
pyogenic granulomas.5
Third, rheumatoid arthritis, like other collagen vascular diseases,
often involves the esophagus, causing esophageal dysmotility and
reflux
disease. Thus, patients with rheumatoid arthritis may have reflux
laryngitis, but it is not known whether such reflux contributes to the
arytenoid fixation.

The choice of treatment for rheumatoid airway obstruction secondary to
arytenoid fixation depends upon the patient's overall medical
condition.
Usually surgical rehabilitation of arytenoid function is not possible,
so that endoscopic arytenoidectomy is often the treatment of choice.
This procedure leaves the patient with an adequate airway and a
somewhat
breathy, dysphonic voice. Sometimes, the rheumatoid arthritis so
severely affects the neck that endoscopic exposure of the larynx is
not
possible. In such cases, an open surgical procedure, or simply a
tracheotomy, may be performed.

Because rheumatoid nodules of the larynx frequently lie within the
substance of the vocal cord and may be inflamed, the vocal cord may be
scarred after their removal. As a consequence, most patients with this
type of rheumatoid involvement have persistent hoarseness following
nodule removal.

Systemic Lupus Erythematosus

Lupus is a systemic, autoimmune disease of unknown etiology. It
affects
women more commonly than men, and it usually presents in the second
and
third decades of life. Patients with this condition may have
autoantibodies to a variety of different tissues, and head and neck
manifestations are common. While the most common manifestations of
lupus
are arthritis, malar rash, and photosensitivity, up to 40% of patients
have mucosal lesions of the aerodigestive tract as well.

The lesions may be varied, e.g., petechiae, ulcerations, or raised
nonulcerated lesions with erythematous borders. The palate and nose
are
commonly involved. Painless nasal septal perforations may also occur.
The larynx may be involved by these mucosal lesions, or by
cricoarytenoid arthritis.3

Laryngeal involvement usually occurs at times of acute exacerbation of
the systemic disease. Airway compromise is uncommon, but it does
occur.
Biopsy reveals a mononuclear cell infiltrate. Positive fluorescent
antinuclear antibody tests are important for diagnosis, and are a key
part of ARA criteria. Corticosteroids and symptomatic therapy are the
treatment.

Relapsing Polychondritis

Relapsing polychondritis is a rare idiopathic, generally progressive,
autoimmune disease that causes inflammation of cartilage. It can mimic
rheumatoid arthritis, and it sometimes occurs in patients with other
autoimmune diseases, such as Sjögren's syndrome, systemic lupus
erythematosus, and psoriatic and rheumatoid arthritis.

Relapsing polychondritis occurs in all age groups, having a
bell-shaped
distribution and a peak incidence in the fourth decade. Although only
10% of patients present with respiratory tract involvement (larynx and
trachea), more than 50% eventually develop such involvement, and 20%
require tracheotomy. Of the 20-30% of patients who eventually die of
the
disease, most die of respiratory complications.7

This disease is characterized by episodes of inflammation with
subsequent destruction of the cartilage of the ears, nose, and larynx.
Arthritis involving the large joints is also common. Laryngeal
involvement is manifested by hoarseness, dyspnea, stridor, cough, and,
sometimes, pain and hemoptysis.

On examination of the larynx, severe glottic and subglottic edema and
inflammation are seen. No laboratory test is diagnostic, although
patients with active disease usually have an elevated erythrocyte
sedimentation rate, and most patients with this disorder also have
autoantibodies to type II collagen. Relapsing polychondritis is
therefore a clinical diagnosis that is confirmed by cartilage biopsy.

Initially, most patients present with bilateral involvement of the ear
cartilage. Typically, the ears suddenly become red, swollen, and
tender.
With or without treatment, the condition may subside within 5-10 days.
The next most common sites of involvement are the nose and the costal
cartilages. On occasion, there may be involvement of the eye.

Histologically, the normal cartilage is replaced by an eosinophilic
material, and acute and chronic infiltrates of lymphocytes and plasma
cells are present. The usual basophilic appearance of the cartilage
matrix is lost; lacunae are interrupted; and fibrous tissue replaces
cartilage. As the disease progresses, fibrosis and chondronecrosis
become marked.

Treatment includes corticosteroids and anti-inflammatory medications
such as dapsone; tracheotomy may be necessary in the later stages of
the
disease. Corticosteroid and immunosuppressive medications are used for
patients with severe, recalcitrant, or rapidly progressive disease,
especially when the larynx or other airway structures are involved.

Sjögren's Syndrome

Sjögren's syndrome is an idiopathic autoimmune disorder characterized
by the clinical triad of xerostomia (dry mouth), conjunctivitis sicca
(dry eyes), and rheumatoid arthritis. Patients with Sjögren's syndrome
have a relatively high chance of developing lymphoma. There is also a
"limited" form of the disease, occurring without the arthritis, which
is
called "sicca syndrome."

Although the cause (or causes) of these syndromes is unknown, both the
limited and the full blown forms have in common autoantibodies to
glandular tissue in the eyes, nose, oral cavity, and laryngopharynx.
In
addition to the lacrimal glands and the major salivary glands, minor
salivary and seromucinous glands are usually affected throughout the
aerodigestive tract.

The diagnosis is made clinically using a Schirmer's test to document
the
dryness of the eyes, and by salivary gland biopsy. In the major
salivary
glands, the histological picture demonstrates (1) an intense lymphoid
infiltrate, especially in periductal areas; (2) glandular atrophy; and
(3) myoepithelial hyperplasia.

Although the salivary glands are virtually always affected, biopsy of
a
major salivary gland is rarely necessary. Instead, biopsy of minor
salivary gland tissue (lip biopsy) is usually sufficient to make the
diagnosis. The histopathological features seen in minor salivary
glands
are similar to those seen in the major salivary glands, although the
myoepithelial hyperplasia is absent. The seromucinous glands of the
larynx may be involved, leading to inflammation of the larynx similar
to
that seen in the salivary glands.

Clinically, this involvement produces edema, erythema, dryness,
crusting, and hence, chronic hoarseness. Laryngeal Sjögren's syndrome,
however, does not occur in isolation; that is, patients with laryngeal
signs and symptoms of Sjögren's syndrome also have other
manifestations of the disease.8

In some cases, the mucosa of the posterior commissure appears so
hypertrophic that the clinician must consider the possibility of
tumor;
on examination, there is intense erythema and hypertrophy of the
posterior commissure, as well as dry, tenacious mucus between the
vocal
cords.

Biopsies of the larynx reveal histological findings similar to those
seen in the salivary glands. In addition, patients with Sjögren's
syndrome often have impaired esophageal function and gastroesophageal
reflux. Treatment is symptomatic, and antireflux and anti-inflammatory
medications are sometimes prescribed.

References
1. Werber JL, Pincus RL. Oropharyngeal angioedema associated with the
use of angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors. Otolaryngol Head Neck
Surg, 101:96-98, 1989
2. Wahle D, Beste DJ, Conley SF. Laryngeal involvement in toxic
epidermal necrolysis. Otol Head Neck Surg 107:796-799, 1992
3. Campbell SM, Montanaro A, Bardana EJ. Head and neck manifestations
of
autoimmune disease. Am J Otolaryngol 4:187-216, 1983
4. Jurik AG, Pedersen U, Nrgård A. Rheumatoid arthritis of the
cricoarytenoid joints: A case of laryngeal obstruction due to acute
and
chronic joint changes. Laryngoscope 95:846-848, 1985
5. Friedman BA, Rice DH. Rheumatoid nodules of the larynx. Arch
Otolaryngol 101:361-363, 1975
6. Hanson RD, Olsen KD, Rogers RS, III. Upper aerodigestive tract
manifestations of cicatricial pemphigoid. Ann Otol Rhinol Laryngol
97:493-499, 1988
7. McAdam LP, O'Hanlan MA, Bluestone C, Pearson CM. Relapsing
polychrondritis: prospective study of 23 patients and a review of the
literature. Medicine 55:193-215, 1976
8. Barrs DM, McDonald TJ, Duffy J. Sjögren's syndrome involving the
larynx. Report of a case. J Laryngol Otol 93:933-936, 1979
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Harvey R. Stone - 11 Jul 2006 10:33 GMT
Thank you Rose,,,, a good bit of digging and work on your part.    It is
something that must continue to be said over and over the years.
Inflam.arth must be controlled.    Anywhere in the body where there is
cartilage  like the voice box,,, the ears,,, the eyes and the organs are
subject to attack from RA, SLE, and many more.
    It is why people must be made to understand that not getting the best
help is very costly to a persons future.   Like Dee Tee, my voice box went
through a period of time where all work and enjoyment of singing in a choir
had to be stopped.  Acid reflux or Gerd causes damage to the valve at the
top of the stomach.   This valve is made out of the same stuff in the voice
box or the valves in a persons heart.   I have made every effort to control
my RA and have taken a DMARD every since I was 45 and the most I have taken
is three in combo  AND still I have lost about half my hearing,,, had that
bout with my voice box and we just do not know what effect on the vascular
system all this has had.   It is why they used to say that people with
inflam. arth. like Lupus, RA, PA lived 15 years less than the average
person... That is just not true today and I am proof of that being 67 years
of age.
  It is why I used to get so upset with people that would come here to make
money off of people in pain with arthritis in its over 170 different forms.
It is why I have been wayyy to brash with people that do not accept what
they have and think that over the counter products can and will make them
OK.    This disease marches on no matter what we think even if we do our
very best to control it.   The flares we have are costly.

Harv

> OK Here is a googled cut/paste version of an article that was posted
> on alt.support. arthritis in 2000. I can not find a link to the
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RoseB - 11 Jul 2006 19:52 GMT
>Thank you Rose,,,, a good bit of digging and work on your part.  

Thanks Harv,
I just thought that this was information we needed to revisit. You do
not always hear from the RD about things until they develop, and
sometimes we think all these extra symptoms can not be RA related. I
mean, hoarseness and RA, who whould think of a connection?

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Diane - 11 Jul 2006 18:48 GMT
rose, what an excellent and depressing article. it was really
fascinating. i now realize that my gerd probably has roots in my RA. i
had no idea. this disease is so scary. so much of it is still out of
control in me. . . what on earth would i be like if i weren't on mega
dmards?? don't even want to think about it.

diane
Sharon - 11 Jul 2006 17:33 GMT
In article <2hc6b25flk1p8iskqgbu5lv2j6k1s3bdfb@4ax.com>, RoseB <Imarosab.1@shaw.ca> writes:

> OK Here is a googled cut/paste version of an article that was posted
> on alt.support. arthritis in 2000. I can not find a link to the
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> ALLERGIC AND IMMUNE DISORDERS OF THE LARYNX
> James A. Koufman, M.D.

    Wow.  Thank you for reposting that.  I can see I'll have to be more
serious about caring for my esophagos and larynx!  I grew up thinking I mainly
had to care for my weight-bearing joints, but now I know differently.

- Sharon
"Gravity...  is a harsh mistress!"
Sharon - 11 Jul 2006 17:39 GMT
In article <GfKsg.1980$2v.539@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, "Harvey R. Stone" <none@nobody.net> writes:
> Thank you Rose,,,, a good bit of digging and work on your part.    It is
> something that must continue to be said over and over the years.
> Inflam.arth must be controlled.    Anywhere in the body where there is
> cartilage  like the voice box,,, the ears,,, the eyes and the organs are
> subject to attack from RA, SLE, and many more.

    [snipped good comments]

> OK.    This disease marches on no matter what we think even if we do our
> very best to control it.   The flares we have are costly.

    Yep.  Also, as in my case, the medications are costly.  As an adult
with JRA in remission for the last 15 or so years, it's been ages since I've
had a flare.  But I've been taking NSAIDS regularly to control the "general"
symptoms of seasonal and morning aching.  My docs guess that it's the damage
from my childhood that is causing the aching, although it's interesting that I
don't respond to painkillers as well as i do to NSAIDS.  But I digress...
another one of those annoying mysteries of connective tissue disease...

- Sharon
"Gravity...  is a harsh mistress!"
Califchief - 11 Jul 2006 20:15 GMT
-=> Quoting Frey@encompasserve.org to All <=-

> NONE of my RA's have EVER requested that I get my eyes checked.

That was one the gripes I had with the bitch who's my former RD,
from 1991 to 1999.  She had never mentioned "iritis" to me, not
even after I wound up in an OD/MD's office with "acute iritis".

When the doctor first saw me, he stated, "You have ankylosing
spondylitis."  He knew immediately what was causing the
inflammation in my eye.

That was in 1996.  Ten years earlier, the doctors at Kaiser said
I had redeye.

... If your mind goes blank, remember to turn down the audio.  
Sharon - 11 Jul 2006 21:31 GMT
In article <rns7b21ttl6vbenp3inh4fkh9i4komlmao@4ax.com>, RoseB <Imarosab.1@shaw.ca> writes:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:33:26 GMT, "Harvey R. Stone" <none@nobody.net>
> wrote:
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> sometimes we think all these extra symptoms can not be RA related. I
> mean, hoarseness and RA, who whould think of a connection?

    Yeah.  I remember about a year or two ago, going to one doctor for
something unrelated, but when I gave my history of JRA, she piped up "Oh, so
you've been having your eyes checked regularly, right?"
    Deer in headlights look from me.  NONE of my RA's have EVER requested
that I get my eyes checked.  

- Sharon
"Gravity...  is a harsh mistress!"
Squirrely - 12 Jul 2006 15:44 GMT
Glad to meet you Sharon, I hope all works out for you. I hope you get the
answers you need and soon.
Take care.

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> Hi, I lurk on here alot and post only occasionally.  In the last few
> years I've had trouble with my voice.  When I went to an ENT, she did a
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> Have any of you had this problem?  Were you able to do anything to
> reverse the damage to your voice?  Surgery?
 
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