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GERD and vocal chords
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Sharon - 10 Jul 2006 16:07 GMT Hi, I lurk on here alot and post only occasionally. In the last few years I've had trouble with my voice. When I went to an ENT, she did a few tests and found that my vocal chords are all "floppy". Instead of being taut like guitar strings, the ligaments holding my chords seem to be not doing the job. They're so bad that one side of the chords are almost overlapping the other side, and when I try to make a high pitched noise, like "eeee", they barely tighten up at all. The result is that I'm extremely hoarse and I strain alot to speak. The ENT decided that I don't have any nerve damage so maybe it's caused by GERD or acid reflux. I have reflux on rare occasions, but I'm pretty sure I don't have it regularly. I've been told that I could have GERD without any apparent symptoms, but that it can burn the esophagus and vocal chords and cause this kind of damage. Since I've been taking various NSAIDS for many years, and high doses of aspirin for years before that, this could be a distinct possibility. Have any of you had this problem? Were you able to do anything to reverse the damage to your voice? Surgery?
 Signature - Sharon "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!"
RoseB - 10 Jul 2006 16:52 GMT I have the sort of voice impairment you mentioned. I am a teacher and have used my voice a great deal over the years, but the ENT maintains that it is RA and GERD that have damaged my vocal cords. While I can not elaborate on the condition of my vocal cords to the depth that you can, I can say that if I try to sing or do anything in a higher pitch there is no voice. It is extremely frustrating for me.
I uses PPIs for the GERD- I was on prevacid for years and the dose was increased to twice a day. I am now experimenting with pantoloc and nexium to determine which is more effective for me.
There was a study that suggested that most RA patients will have damage to their vocal cords as a result.
I have not considered surgery. Rose @}>->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB
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Kelly - 10 Jul 2006 17:24 GMT I owe you a phone call Rose. Am almost rested up after my long weekend with my nephew - we spent Friday together watching Fred Penner at Folkfest, on the ferries, and grocery shopping and cooking. My brother and sister in law arrived Friday night and they left Sunday. I had gone over on Thursday night and visited my mom and sister and picked him up at 7:30 am Friday to bring him back here. We had a great time but it pushed me to the limit.
We might have an offer on the house tomorrow so will start to look for a house this week - have 4 to look at. Keep your fingers crossed. They spent half and hour on Wednesday and an hour yesterday looking at different things in the house. Apparently are going to phone back within the next 2 days.
Off to quilting in a couple of minutes - my rest for the week.
Kelly
>I have the sort of voice impairment you mentioned. I am a teacher and > have used my voice a great deal over the years, but the ENT maintains [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Please remove "Ima" to reply. RoseB - 10 Jul 2006 20:25 GMT >I owe you a phone call Rose. I will call you. I was just waiting for your company to leave. I though the evening would be best. Rose @}>->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB
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Sharon - 10 Jul 2006 17:27 GMT > I have the sort of voice impairment you mentioned. I am a teacher and > have used my voice a great deal over the years, but the ENT maintains > that it is RA and GERD that have damaged my vocal cords. While I can > not elaborate on the condition of my vocal cords to the depth that you > can, I can say that if I try to sing or do anything in a higher pitch > there is no voice. It is extremely frustrating for me. Yes, that sounds exactly like my problem! At first I just coudn't sing or make high-pitched sounds, but in the last few weeks it's become hard to even talk without a lot of strain. The first test the ENT did on me was insert an otolaryngoscope, and that's how I know the chords are "floppy". She showed me a picture of normal chords, and then showed me mine. Mine are very abnormal.
> I uses PPIs for the GERD- I was on prevacid for years and the dose was > increased to twice a day. I am now experimenting with pantoloc and > nexium to determine which is more effective for me. > > There was a study that suggested that most RA patients will have > damage to their vocal cords as a result. Do you have any other symptoms of GERD? Have you found that the medications have helped your voice at all? I tried Nexium only for a few weeks last summer because the Lodine I was taking started to burn my stomach. I could feel it. Now I'm taking Relafen instead and no longer feel my stomach burning, so I don't take any stomach meds. Although I know many problems can't be felt until the damage is beyond repair (like RSI), I have a problem taking a drug for something when I can't feel any difference with or without. How do you know it's working?
- Sharon "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!"
Ann - 10 Jul 2006 17:38 GMT My voice has deteriorated over the years and I can no longer sing at all or even speak in a high pitch voice. Since I don't have GERD, I would think it's part of the RA (at least I'll blame it on that). A few years ago I went to an ENT for a hearing/tinnitus problem and mentioned my voice to him but he didn't do any testing to find a reason.
Ann
RoseB - 10 Jul 2006 20:24 GMT I do feel the acid and even with the acid controllers, I still sometimes have that burning sensation. I would have terrible heartburn without the acid controlling med. I believe in my case it is a combination of Ra damaged vocal chords, and also the damage from the reflux.In addition are the effects from Sjogren's (sicca)) syndrome that accompanies RA. It does become somewhat better when I am not using my voice.My class is lucky, I can not raise my voice. Rose @}>->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB
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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 10 Jul 2006 21:15 GMT I am a singer - solo, duet, etc. My gerd was so bad at first that I had to completely STOP singing for one full year. It was soooooo hard to sit in church on Sunday and not sing the hymns with everyone else, but I did it and can now sing again. Still, if I sing too much in one session, my voice hurts. Not my throat, my voice. I find it difficult to talk. So, yes, you are not the only person to have this. It sounds as though you are in the first stages, though, and have not yet started to heal.
DeeTee
> Hi, I lurk on here alot and post only occasionally. In the last few > years I've had trouble with my voice. When I went to an ENT, she did a [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Have any of you had this problem? Were you able to do anything to > reverse the damage to your voice? Surgery? Sharon - 10 Jul 2006 22:09 GMT > I am a singer - solo, duet, etc. My gerd was so bad at first that I had to > completely STOP singing for one full year. It was soooooo hard to sit in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > DeeTee DeeTee, how did you get healed? I worked with a speech therapist a little bit, but I didn't feel that it helped. Conversely I notice that when I go a long time without talking, it's even harder to talk until my voice gets a little warmed up.
Does anyone have any links to studies about how RA damages the vocal chords? Until recently I've never heard that this was possible. I don't doubt you all, but I'm getting pretty frustrated. I have a very customer service oriented IT job and it's a REAL trial talking on the phone the last week or two. My throat feels tense all the time and the more I try to talk, the more strained it feels. But my job really requires that I talk to people.
Would you guys suggest that I have more patience with the speech therapy exercises and try a course of Nexium or something? It was just odd before, but now it's a real problem.
Sharon
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 11 Jul 2006 01:38 GMT I got healed with prescription Prilosec (now OTC) and NO spicy foods at all and NO singing and only essential talking. My esophagus was acid burned. They didn't say anything about my vocal cords, but they hurt!
DeeTee
>> I am a singer - solo, duet, etc. My gerd was so bad at first that I had >> to [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Sharon RoseB - 11 Jul 2006 05:26 GMT > Does anyone have any links to studies about how RA damages the vocal >chords? Until recently I've never heard that this was possible. Her are some for starters: I have not actually read these, they are just from a quick google search. check:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1 759587&dopt=Abstract
http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/40/5/593
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=6 466395&dopt=Citation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1 5761726&dopt=Abstract
http://www.springerlink.com/(b5g11bip5wadf1uslkmhnqzx)/app/home/contribution.asp ?referrer=parent&backto=issue,1,17;journal,15,153;linkingpublicationresults,1:10 1577,1
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0034-72992005000400017&l ng=pt&nrm=&tlng=en Rose @}>->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB
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RoseB - 11 Jul 2006 05:34 GMT >http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0034-72992005000400017&l ng=pt&nrm=&tlng=en I should have added, this last one seems good, it has pictures and a bit more info. Although it deals with SLE, it does mention:
However, laryngeal involvement is not exclusive of SLE. In a study with 45 patients with fairly severe rheumatoid arthritis (RA) submitted to indirect laryngoscopy, Lawry et al.4 detected abnormalities in 52% of cases. Rose @}>->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB
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RoseB - 11 Jul 2006 06:12 GMT OK Here is a googled cut/paste version of an article that was posted on alt.support. arthritis in 2000. I can not find a link to the article, so instead just cut and pasted it here. This should help answer some of your questions.
ALLERGIC AND IMMUNE DISORDERS OF THE LARYNX James A. Koufman, M.D.
(This article is reprinted from Koufman JA: Infectious and inflammatory diseases of the larynx, in Ballenger JJ, Snow JB, Eds. Otorhinolaryngology Fifteenth edition, Chapter 30, pp. 535-555, Williams and Wilkins (Lea & Febiger) Philadelphia, 1996)
AUTOIMMUNE DISORDERS
This group of disorders is heterogeneous; however, altered immunity is the common denominator.
Rheumatoid Arthritis
Rheumatoid arthritis is a systemic autoimmune disorder of unknown cause, which can affect any organ in the body. Its most common manifestation is symmetrical polyarthritis, but, it also can cause inflammation in nonjoint structures, vasculitis, and pulmonary changes.3 Rheumatoid arthritis may affect the larynx both directly and indirectly.
First, rheumatoid involvement of the cricoarytenoid joints may cause hoarseness or airway obstruction. At post-mortem examination, up to 87% of patients with rheumatoid arthritis have cricoarytenoid joint changes, but, based on laryngoscopy, only 17-33% of such patients have clinical signs of laryngeal involvement, namely posterior laryngeal inflammation and decreased arytenoid mobility.4
Second, rheumatoid nodules may occur anywhere in the larynx or within the substance of the vocal cord itself, leading to hoarseness. The gross appearance of rheumatoid laryngeal nodules is variable. They may appear as white submucosal nodules, as ulcerated friable polypoid lesions, or as ill-defined masses deep within the substance of the vocal cords. Occasionally, unsuspected rheumatoid nodules are discovered during direct laryngoscopy by palpation of a nodule within the vocal cord.
Histologically, these lesions show a central area of fibrinoid necrosis surrounded by histiocytes, plasma cells, and lymphocytes. They can be highly vascularized and hyalinized; they may have a fibrous capsule. Frequently, rheumatoid nodules of the larynx are misdiagnosed as pyogenic granulomas.5 Third, rheumatoid arthritis, like other collagen vascular diseases, often involves the esophagus, causing esophageal dysmotility and reflux disease. Thus, patients with rheumatoid arthritis may have reflux laryngitis, but it is not known whether such reflux contributes to the arytenoid fixation.
The choice of treatment for rheumatoid airway obstruction secondary to arytenoid fixation depends upon the patient's overall medical condition. Usually surgical rehabilitation of arytenoid function is not possible, so that endoscopic arytenoidectomy is often the treatment of choice. This procedure leaves the patient with an adequate airway and a somewhat breathy, dysphonic voice. Sometimes, the rheumatoid arthritis so severely affects the neck that endoscopic exposure of the larynx is not possible. In such cases, an open surgical procedure, or simply a tracheotomy, may be performed.
Because rheumatoid nodules of the larynx frequently lie within the substance of the vocal cord and may be inflamed, the vocal cord may be scarred after their removal. As a consequence, most patients with this type of rheumatoid involvement have persistent hoarseness following nodule removal.
Systemic Lupus Erythematosus
Lupus is a systemic, autoimmune disease of unknown etiology. It affects women more commonly than men, and it usually presents in the second and third decades of life. Patients with this condition may have autoantibodies to a variety of different tissues, and head and neck manifestations are common. While the most common manifestations of lupus are arthritis, malar rash, and photosensitivity, up to 40% of patients have mucosal lesions of the aerodigestive tract as well.
The lesions may be varied, e.g., petechiae, ulcerations, or raised nonulcerated lesions with erythematous borders. The palate and nose are commonly involved. Painless nasal septal perforations may also occur. The larynx may be involved by these mucosal lesions, or by cricoarytenoid arthritis.3
Laryngeal involvement usually occurs at times of acute exacerbation of the systemic disease. Airway compromise is uncommon, but it does occur. Biopsy reveals a mononuclear cell infiltrate. Positive fluorescent antinuclear antibody tests are important for diagnosis, and are a key part of ARA criteria. Corticosteroids and symptomatic therapy are the treatment.
Relapsing Polychondritis
Relapsing polychondritis is a rare idiopathic, generally progressive, autoimmune disease that causes inflammation of cartilage. It can mimic rheumatoid arthritis, and it sometimes occurs in patients with other autoimmune diseases, such as Sjögren's syndrome, systemic lupus erythematosus, and psoriatic and rheumatoid arthritis.
Relapsing polychondritis occurs in all age groups, having a bell-shaped distribution and a peak incidence in the fourth decade. Although only 10% of patients present with respiratory tract involvement (larynx and trachea), more than 50% eventually develop such involvement, and 20% require tracheotomy. Of the 20-30% of patients who eventually die of the disease, most die of respiratory complications.7
This disease is characterized by episodes of inflammation with subsequent destruction of the cartilage of the ears, nose, and larynx. Arthritis involving the large joints is also common. Laryngeal involvement is manifested by hoarseness, dyspnea, stridor, cough, and, sometimes, pain and hemoptysis.
On examination of the larynx, severe glottic and subglottic edema and inflammation are seen. No laboratory test is diagnostic, although patients with active disease usually have an elevated erythrocyte sedimentation rate, and most patients with this disorder also have autoantibodies to type II collagen. Relapsing polychondritis is therefore a clinical diagnosis that is confirmed by cartilage biopsy.
Initially, most patients present with bilateral involvement of the ear cartilage. Typically, the ears suddenly become red, swollen, and tender. With or without treatment, the condition may subside within 5-10 days. The next most common sites of involvement are the nose and the costal cartilages. On occasion, there may be involvement of the eye.
Histologically, the normal cartilage is replaced by an eosinophilic material, and acute and chronic infiltrates of lymphocytes and plasma cells are present. The usual basophilic appearance of the cartilage matrix is lost; lacunae are interrupted; and fibrous tissue replaces cartilage. As the disease progresses, fibrosis and chondronecrosis become marked.
Treatment includes corticosteroids and anti-inflammatory medications such as dapsone; tracheotomy may be necessary in the later stages of the disease. Corticosteroid and immunosuppressive medications are used for patients with severe, recalcitrant, or rapidly progressive disease, especially when the larynx or other airway structures are involved.
Sjögren's Syndrome
Sjögren's syndrome is an idiopathic autoimmune disorder characterized by the clinical triad of xerostomia (dry mouth), conjunctivitis sicca (dry eyes), and rheumatoid arthritis. Patients with Sjögren's syndrome have a relatively high chance of developing lymphoma. There is also a "limited" form of the disease, occurring without the arthritis, which is called "sicca syndrome."
Although the cause (or causes) of these syndromes is unknown, both the limited and the full blown forms have in common autoantibodies to glandular tissue in the eyes, nose, oral cavity, and laryngopharynx. In addition to the lacrimal glands and the major salivary glands, minor salivary and seromucinous glands are usually affected throughout the aerodigestive tract.
The diagnosis is made clinically using a Schirmer's test to document the dryness of the eyes, and by salivary gland biopsy. In the major salivary glands, the histological picture demonstrates (1) an intense lymphoid infiltrate, especially in periductal areas; (2) glandular atrophy; and (3) myoepithelial hyperplasia.
Although the salivary glands are virtually always affected, biopsy of a major salivary gland is rarely necessary. Instead, biopsy of minor salivary gland tissue (lip biopsy) is usually sufficient to make the diagnosis. The histopathological features seen in minor salivary glands are similar to those seen in the major salivary glands, although the myoepithelial hyperplasia is absent. The seromucinous glands of the larynx may be involved, leading to inflammation of the larynx similar to that seen in the salivary glands.
Clinically, this involvement produces edema, erythema, dryness, crusting, and hence, chronic hoarseness. Laryngeal Sjögren's syndrome, however, does not occur in isolation; that is, patients with laryngeal signs and symptoms of Sjögren's syndrome also have other manifestations of the disease.8
In some cases, the mucosa of the posterior commissure appears so hypertrophic that the clinician must consider the possibility of tumor; on examination, there is intense erythema and hypertrophy of the posterior commissure, as well as dry, tenacious mucus between the vocal cords.
Biopsies of the larynx reveal histological findings similar to those seen in the salivary glands. In addition, patients with Sjögren's syndrome often have impaired esophageal function and gastroesophageal reflux. Treatment is symptomatic, and antireflux and anti-inflammatory medications are sometimes prescribed.
References 1. Werber JL, Pincus RL. Oropharyngeal angioedema associated with the use of angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors. Otolaryngol Head Neck Surg, 101:96-98, 1989 2. Wahle D, Beste DJ, Conley SF. Laryngeal involvement in toxic epidermal necrolysis. Otol Head Neck Surg 107:796-799, 1992 3. Campbell SM, Montanaro A, Bardana EJ. Head and neck manifestations of autoimmune disease. Am J Otolaryngol 4:187-216, 1983 4. Jurik AG, Pedersen U, Nrgård A. Rheumatoid arthritis of the cricoarytenoid joints: A case of laryngeal obstruction due to acute and chronic joint changes. Laryngoscope 95:846-848, 1985 5. Friedman BA, Rice DH. Rheumatoid nodules of the larynx. Arch Otolaryngol 101:361-363, 1975 6. Hanson RD, Olsen KD, Rogers RS, III. Upper aerodigestive tract manifestations of cicatricial pemphigoid. Ann Otol Rhinol Laryngol 97:493-499, 1988 7. McAdam LP, O'Hanlan MA, Bluestone C, Pearson CM. Relapsing polychrondritis: prospective study of 23 patients and a review of the literature. Medicine 55:193-215, 1976 8. Barrs DM, McDonald TJ, Duffy J. Sjögren's syndrome involving the larynx. Report of a case. J Laryngol Otol 93:933-936, 1979 © Copyright, Center For Voice Disorders of Wake Forest University
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Harvey R. Stone - 11 Jul 2006 10:33 GMT Thank you Rose,,,, a good bit of digging and work on your part. It is something that must continue to be said over and over the years. Inflam.arth must be controlled. Anywhere in the body where there is cartilage like the voice box,,, the ears,,, the eyes and the organs are subject to attack from RA, SLE, and many more. It is why people must be made to understand that not getting the best help is very costly to a persons future. Like Dee Tee, my voice box went through a period of time where all work and enjoyment of singing in a choir had to be stopped. Acid reflux or Gerd causes damage to the valve at the top of the stomach. This valve is made out of the same stuff in the voice box or the valves in a persons heart. I have made every effort to control my RA and have taken a DMARD every since I was 45 and the most I have taken is three in combo AND still I have lost about half my hearing,,, had that bout with my voice box and we just do not know what effect on the vascular system all this has had. It is why they used to say that people with inflam. arth. like Lupus, RA, PA lived 15 years less than the average person... That is just not true today and I am proof of that being 67 years of age. It is why I used to get so upset with people that would come here to make money off of people in pain with arthritis in its over 170 different forms. It is why I have been wayyy to brash with people that do not accept what they have and think that over the counter products can and will make them OK. This disease marches on no matter what we think even if we do our very best to control it. The flares we have are costly.
Harv
> OK Here is a googled cut/paste version of an article that was posted > on alt.support. arthritis in 2000. I can not find a link to the [quoted text clipped - 248 lines] > > Please remove "Ima" to reply. RoseB - 11 Jul 2006 19:52 GMT >Thank you Rose,,,, a good bit of digging and work on your part. Thanks Harv, I just thought that this was information we needed to revisit. You do not always hear from the RD about things until they develop, and sometimes we think all these extra symptoms can not be RA related. I mean, hoarseness and RA, who whould think of a connection?
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Diane - 11 Jul 2006 18:48 GMT rose, what an excellent and depressing article. it was really fascinating. i now realize that my gerd probably has roots in my RA. i had no idea. this disease is so scary. so much of it is still out of control in me. . . what on earth would i be like if i weren't on mega dmards?? don't even want to think about it.
diane
Sharon - 11 Jul 2006 17:33 GMT In article <2hc6b25flk1p8iskqgbu5lv2j6k1s3bdfb@4ax.com>, RoseB <Imarosab.1@shaw.ca> writes:
> OK Here is a googled cut/paste version of an article that was posted > on alt.support. arthritis in 2000. I can not find a link to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ALLERGIC AND IMMUNE DISORDERS OF THE LARYNX > James A. Koufman, M.D. Wow. Thank you for reposting that. I can see I'll have to be more serious about caring for my esophagos and larynx! I grew up thinking I mainly had to care for my weight-bearing joints, but now I know differently.
- Sharon "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!"
Sharon - 11 Jul 2006 17:39 GMT In article <GfKsg.1980$2v.539@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, "Harvey R. Stone" <none@nobody.net> writes:
> Thank you Rose,,,, a good bit of digging and work on your part. It is > something that must continue to be said over and over the years. > Inflam.arth must be controlled. Anywhere in the body where there is > cartilage like the voice box,,, the ears,,, the eyes and the organs are > subject to attack from RA, SLE, and many more. [snipped good comments]
> OK. This disease marches on no matter what we think even if we do our > very best to control it. The flares we have are costly. Yep. Also, as in my case, the medications are costly. As an adult with JRA in remission for the last 15 or so years, it's been ages since I've had a flare. But I've been taking NSAIDS regularly to control the "general" symptoms of seasonal and morning aching. My docs guess that it's the damage from my childhood that is causing the aching, although it's interesting that I don't respond to painkillers as well as i do to NSAIDS. But I digress... another one of those annoying mysteries of connective tissue disease...
- Sharon "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!"
Califchief - 11 Jul 2006 20:15 GMT -=> Quoting Frey@encompasserve.org to All <=-
> NONE of my RA's have EVER requested that I get my eyes checked. That was one the gripes I had with the bitch who's my former RD, from 1991 to 1999. She had never mentioned "iritis" to me, not even after I wound up in an OD/MD's office with "acute iritis".
When the doctor first saw me, he stated, "You have ankylosing spondylitis." He knew immediately what was causing the inflammation in my eye.
That was in 1996. Ten years earlier, the doctors at Kaiser said I had redeye.
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Sharon - 11 Jul 2006 21:31 GMT In article <rns7b21ttl6vbenp3inh4fkh9i4komlmao@4ax.com>, RoseB <Imarosab.1@shaw.ca> writes:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:33:26 GMT, "Harvey R. Stone" <none@nobody.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > sometimes we think all these extra symptoms can not be RA related. I > mean, hoarseness and RA, who whould think of a connection? Yeah. I remember about a year or two ago, going to one doctor for something unrelated, but when I gave my history of JRA, she piped up "Oh, so you've been having your eyes checked regularly, right?" Deer in headlights look from me. NONE of my RA's have EVER requested that I get my eyes checked.
- Sharon "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!"
Squirrely - 12 Jul 2006 15:44 GMT Glad to meet you Sharon, I hope all works out for you. I hope you get the answers you need and soon. Take care.
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> Hi, I lurk on here alot and post only occasionally. In the last few > years I've had trouble with my voice. When I went to an ENT, she did a [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Have any of you had this problem? Were you able to do anything to > reverse the damage to your voice? Surgery?
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