I woke up the last couple of days thinking that I had clenched fists. They
didn't look like that but they certainly felt like it. Is it time to get
really depressed?
>I woke up the last couple of days thinking that I had clenched fists. They
>didn't look like that but they certainly felt like it. Is it time to get
>really depressed?
I don't know what is wrong with you Sy, but never get depressed then you
will have given up.
Don't get depressed. Get pro-active and find a protocol that will slow
the disease activity down. Don't even get depressed if they start
closing up into a fist and you really can't open them. Get busy and
find a good surgeon. That is when I finally got all the mip's in both
hands replaced and the wrists rebuilt and fused. It was quite the
miracle for me. Other than being limited by the amount of weight my
wrist could bear and the avoidance of repetitive activities like
hammering nails or digging ditches so the new plactic mips wouldn't
break they were like new. Completely functional with 90% flexibility
and looked normal.
For the first 5 years that I posted here my sig line was a quote from
Ghandi:
"You can't shake hands with a clenched fist."
big desert piano hands hugs,
johnie
> I woke up the last couple of days thinking that I had clenched fists. They
> didn't look like that but they certainly felt like it. Is it time to get
> really depressed?
Pope Pie (Sy Lehrman) - 06 Jun 2006 06:02 GMT
> Don't get depressed. Get pro-active and find a protocol that will slow
> the disease activity down. Don't even get depressed if they start
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> break they were like new. Completely functional with 90% flexibility
> and looked normal.
Well, I'm taking methotrexate and chloroquin and nambutone and stuff, but I
get the sense of going down hill anyway. Well, maybe it's a passing phase
or something. I'll talk to the rheumy next month. It may just be all the
writing I've done in the past few days.
johnie - 06 Jun 2006 13:04 GMT
have you tried one of the newer anti-TNF's like Enbrel. Sounds like the
protocol you are using has lost its POP.
johnie
> > Don't get depressed. Get pro-active and find a protocol that will slow
> > the disease activity down. Don't even get depressed if they start
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> or something. I'll talk to the rheumy next month. It may just be all the
> writing I've done in the past few days.
Stinkweed - 06 Jun 2006 18:10 GMT
Johnie, what are mips?
> Don't get depressed. Get pro-active and find a protocol that will slow
> the disease activity down. Don't even get depressed if they start
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>> didn't look like that but they certainly felt like it. Is it time to get
>> really depressed?
johnie - 06 Jun 2006 21:32 GMT
> Johnie, what are mips?
Sorry, it should have been MCP's and those are the
"metacarpophalangeal" or the knuckle joints.
johnie
Charrlygrl1 - 06 Jun 2006 21:46 GMT
Yup,
Sounds to me like it may be time to move on to the 'big guns' of
arthritis meds;
Enbrel, Humira or Remicade....and I think the new ones are Rituxan and
Orencia.
I am on Enbrel, combined with methotrexate, Clinoril, azulfidine and
leucovorin.
Reading your post transported me back...I think methotrexate with
hydroxychloroquine and Nabumetone was one of the first med combos that
I was on...didn't do diddly for me.
I hope that you can see your RD and that he/she can do something for
you,
Char
Pope Pie (Sy Lehrman) - 06 Jun 2006 22:23 GMT
> Yup,
>
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> hydroxychloroquine and Nabumetone was one of the first med combos that
> I was on...didn't do diddly for me.
Yes, that is more or less as I feared. It's a whole new sympton. I find it
hard to say how much good the methotrexate does. It is hard to sort out the
ever changing aches and pains and the ever changing side effects. I do move
more easily and have a greater range of movement with mtx, but I don't
really feel much better and my general stamina is decreasing, but that could
be that I do less as it gets harder, the old vicious circle.
Stinkweed - 07 Jun 2006 00:25 GMT
Thank you. Does anyone here have a spur on their joints. I have a bump on
my finger at the joint, when I open my hand it dissapears, when I close my
fist it has a good bit of pain and I'm assuming it is because it is scraping
the muscle when I make a fist?
>> Johnie, what are mips?
>
> Sorry, it should have been MCP's and those are the
> "metacarpophalangeal" or the knuckle joints.
>
> johnie
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 07 Jun 2006 16:58 GMT
Yes. My knees and spine are full of spurs. The xrays show the underneath of
my kneecaps look like stalagtites and stalagmites. I no longer kneel for
anything I can squat for or sit for.
DeeTee
> Thank you. Does anyone here have a spur on their joints. I have a bump
> on my finger at the joint, when I open my hand it dissapears, when I close
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>>
>> johnie
Stinkweed - 07 Jun 2006 19:42 GMT
Will your doctor take them off for you? and if not why?
> Yes. My knees and spine are full of spurs. The xrays show the underneath
> of my kneecaps look like stalagtites and stalagmites. I no longer kneel
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>>> johnie
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 08 Jun 2006 03:48 GMT
No - they are not "long enough yet to risk a surgery" said he. I have a new
RD here in Ohio, so am taking it one visit at a time. I see him again on the
20th. I plan to ask if I can up my prednisone to 5 mg (or more) a day. I am
in a flare and hurrrrrrrttttttiiiiiinnnnnggg.
DeeTee
> Will your doctor take them off for you? and if not why?
>
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>>>>
>>>> johnie
Stinkweed - 08 Jun 2006 04:46 GMT
{{{Hugs}}} I know how they hurt, I have them in my heels too. I was
thinking when I got around to seeing the Rheumatologist he would just say we
will take it off. It will be complicated for me because of the Warfrin. If
mine on my finger gets much bigger it will pop through the skin. It just
seemed to get there overnight, I noticed it hurt at times but just never
looked and one day it hurt especially bad and I looked and was surprised to
see this lump.
> No - they are not "long enough yet to risk a surgery" said he. I have a
> new RD here in Ohio, so am taking it one visit at a time. I see him again
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>>>>> johnie
I have to consciously open my hands on a regular basis. I will be sitting
watching TV and realize that my nails are digging into my palms. I look at
photos of myself and there I am with my fists closed. Don't know why - I'm
certainly not angry. It just seems more comfortable until I clench.
DeeTee
>I woke up the last couple of days thinking that I had clenched fists. They
>didn't look like that but they certainly felt like it. Is it time to get
>really depressed?