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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / June 2006Anyone heard of something called Prolotherapy?
Someone brought it to my attention in another forum and at first it sounded promising, but after checking the webiste <http://www.prolotherapy.com> it started to look like a bunch of hooey! Peopel started going nuts in the forum over this with many people claiming it really worked and many others brushing it aside. I have horribly bad knees (bone on bone) and just want to find out more about it. any help from anyone out there would be great. thanks. I think this gives more info http://www.prolonews.com/history_of_prolotherapy.htm I also have terrible knees, but this 'therapy' appears to base its claims on tendon relaxation. Grinding knees, as you say, are due to loss of cartilage and hence bone on bone. I would beware of commercialism Peter From: diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk >I think this gives more info >http://www.prolonews.com/history_of_pr >olotherapy.htm >I also have terrible knees, but this > 'therapy' appears to base its claims on > tendon relaxation. Grinding knees, as > you say, are due to loss of cartilage and > hence bone on bone. >I would beware of commercialism >Peter Terrible knees here, too. From a fracture (left knee) and torn cartilage (right knee). Carrying too much (which I'm in the process of losing) hasn't helped, either. I trust osteopaths. My PCP in Missouri was one (I now live in New Jersey). I don't like the looks of that, though. On that one study that had the 88 year old as part of it, wonder how he/she did at the end of the 19 year study? Was the person still showing improvement at the age of 107? Or the 12 year follow-up? Get around good at 119? I'm being facetious but I just don't trust things like that. Lots of medical people develop an interest outside their field of expertise but that doesn't make them an expert, especially if they don't follow it up with training in the area. I had a doctor who got interested in treating allergies. He had a whole collection of allergens to test on your skin and had you coming back week after week for allergy shots. All I ever got was a lump on my arm. He wasn't trained or board certified as an allergist. Maybe it's ok but I'd be really, really cautious. You only have one body and if it gets messed up by something that borders on quackery, you're stuck. There's enough medical horror stories with legitimate treatments. Nell Memory Stirring Music http://www.nellybly.com Blue Letter Bible http://blueletterbible.org U-L-T-R-A'S TEXT CONVERTER http://www.ult-tex.net/tools/ultra/text_converter.pl By perserverance the snail reached the ark. ~~ Charles Haddon Spurgeon this site is the creation of a california osteopath. background in health science and nutrition. in and of itself, that's fine. but - if you are 'not' a traumatic or wear and tear type arthritis, but rather an auto-immune/RA, do you want to bet your health on a system of therapy known as osteopathic manipulative medicine as your primary treatment modality? at the same time, even if your are an OA, once you are bone on bone, you possibly need more specific remedies. i have known several osteopaths who have done a good job with sports injury rehab, as well as work place injury. i'd rather a broader approach for my still's issues. be well paul > Someone brought it to my attention in another forum and at first it > sounded promising, but after checking the webiste [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I have horribly bad knees (bone on bone) and just want to find out more > about it. any help from anyone out there would be great. thanks. Thanks everyone, for your two cents. I have been gathering more info and some of it sounds plausible while some seems completely marketed. There are many websites out there about and for Prolotherapy, but I guess until I actually meet someone that used it there is no way to tell for sure. BTW- my knees are bad from playing goalie (hockey) for years and had one bad tear of the medial meniscus (each knee) leaving nothing. After a short period the cartilage in that area deteriorated to nothing. I've had meniscus translplants and what is called carticel implantation ( a grow your own process.) Now I'm beginning to have pain in the knees again, so I have been trying to look into as many options as possible. I'm too young (36) for replacements, plus I'd like to keep an active lifestyle (obviously without playing goalie anymore.) If anyone out there has any other ideas or things to look into, I'd gladly welcome your repsonses. Thanks. My reply to you is that if the pain gets bad enough, you are not too young for a replacement. Age has nothing to do with need! Gwen > Thanks everyone, for your two cents. I have been gathering more info > and some of it sounds plausible while some seems completely marketed. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > If anyone out there has any other ideas or things to look into, I'd > gladly welcome your repsonses. Thanks. Age does have something to do with it since technology isn't good enough to allow the "new" knees to last until I'm older. I'd also like to do more than walk and really don't want to end up in a wheelchair. You only get two shots at it at this point in time and if they only last for 10-15 years, that is not far off. > My reply to you is that if the pain gets bad enough, you are not too young > for a replacement. Age has nothing to do with need! > Gwen > Age does have something to do with it since technology isn't good > enough to allow the "new" knees to last until I'm older. Ahhh, but it is the newest technologies, both in materials and design and in new less invasive surgical techniques that make sure the really "new" knees will outlast your body. In fact the biggest thing preventing a "new" knee from lasting forever is the lousy condition the average body is in. That condition and its continuation along with some new materials is the key to "new" knee longevity. Problem is getting access to these technologies and then getting your ins. to cough it up for the latest and greatest. Us "wards of the state" can't afford the good stuff >g< but I promise you... millionare golfers can get "new" knees that will still be working long after the worms have finished the rest of them. > I'd also like to do more than walk. And you should and can but if your goal is winning the "ironman 2010" in ________ ( fill in the blank with your favorite exotic locale) you probably will have to replace them in 2011. > You only get two shots at it at this point in time and if they only > last for 10-15 years, that is not far off. That is the standard answer for concrete tech used 20 years ago and still used today cause its cheap and dependable. It has no relevance to the "new" stuff. Truth is more and more ins. companies are slowly coming around cause the cost / longevity formulae is starting to make $en$e. Lots more surgeons using the newer less-invasive procedures operate in Europe but they also are coming around and there are more american hospitals getting up to speed every year. Do some checking around and it might surprise you whats hiding behind Door #3. big desert "new" kneebend hugs, johnie |
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