 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / June 2006Question
I have recently been put on Warfrin for deep vein thrombosis. I have a defective genetic gene that makes my body produce blood clots easier than the rest of the population. Because of this I have to take Warfin for the rest of my life. I also have Arthritis, in my fingers and my thumbs, my knees and my neck. I can no longer take arthritis medication because they are afraid it will make my stomach bleed. Warfrin is a blood thinner. I now take shots of steroid when I hurt bad and I had some in my hands 4 months ago and they are starting to hurt again. We have been having a great deal of rain and I live in Wisconsin and the weather is still a bit chilly and my shoulder is also aching too along with my hands and neck. I do have Tramadol to help with the pain, but was wondering if anyone else was in the same boat where they couldn't take their Arthritis medication anymore and was wondering what you do? The Tramadol doesn't get rid of all the pain. TIA for anyone that answers.  Signature"I believe that friends are quiet Angels that lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly" Hi, I don't have much advice for you, but wanted you to know I read your post. Have you tried arthritis tylenol? Maybe someone will come along with more help than me. Stick around and join the crowd. debbie m. > I have recently been put on Warfrin for deep vein thrombosis. I have a > defective genetic gene that makes my body produce blood clots easier than [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > "I believe that friends are quiet Angels that lift us to our feet > when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly" Thanks Debbie, Yes I have tried Tylenol Arthritis, but it doesn't do much and I don't like to take tylenol as it messes with the liver. I would have to take too much of it to work. I do have a pain pill I can take and it helps. But I use them sparingly, I kind of feel I may need them more later. Someone suggested to me in another group that a hot tub might help. I wonder if anyone here has tried that? I had forgot about icing the arthritis and am going to start trying that again to see how much that will help. Thanks for the invite. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> "I believe that friends are quiet Angels that lift us to our feet >> when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly" Stinkweed, many of us who take meds that can be harmful to the liver take Milk Thistle. It really does protect the liver and I buy mine at WalMart. Even though I once had "hepatitis suspected but not proved", I have no liver problems now. Gwen > Thanks Debbie, Yes I have tried Tylenol Arthritis, but it doesn't do much > and I don't like to take tylenol as it messes with the liver. I would [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >>> "I believe that friends are quiet Angels that lift us to our feet >>> when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly" Do you know if this messes with the drug Warfrin? Some meds make the blood thick and some make it thin and i have to have my INR checked if I take something new and it might do this. I just got down to once INR check up a month. I will write this down and call the clinic for testing on Thursday and talk to them about it. Thanks last night I was hurting so bad, but today I feel better, we have had so much rain lately I guess my body is rebelling. It is still chilly here too. > Stinkweed, many of us who take meds that can be harmful to the liver take > Milk Thistle. It really does protect the liver and I buy mine at WalMart. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >>>> "I believe that friends are quiet Angels that lift us to our feet >>>> when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly" > Do you know if this messes with the drug Warfrin? If I recall from when I used to take it everything interacts with warfarin including green salads. For those of you who haven't had the pleasure that is not a joke. Whatever you try in diet or supplaments take it for week before your next blood draw and then if there is a problem you can adjust the supplement or the warfarin accordingly. First I'd talk to the rheumatologist, or a different rheumatologist to find a less problematic RA treatment. >> Do you know if this messes with the drug Warfrin? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > rheumatologist, or a different rheumatologist to find a less problematic > RA treatment. Well said... Harv >>> Do you know if this messes with the drug Warfrin? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Well said... > Harv Hi Harv, how are you doing? Remember me? Sharon. > Hi Harv, how are you doing? Remember me? Sharon. LOLOL Well,,,, I can honestly say that I do not remember,,,, Stinkweed. Hello Sharon... :-) Harv >> Hi Harv, how are you doing? Remember me? Sharon. >> > LOLOL Well,,,, I can honestly say that I do not remember,,,, Stinkweed. > Hello Sharon... :-) > Harv I have been Stinkweed for a long time now. Guess I haven't checked in lately. I always went to the other arthritis group but decided to try this one, it isn't as large as it once was. I see your still doing well on your medication. When I went on the warfrin, they took me off my arthritis medication and it has been getting progressively worse. I have been on the Warfrin since last fall, I almost died with the blood clots and am lucky to be here. I'm still in remission with the cancer too. Going on 4 years now. :-) God has been watching over me, but keeps me on my toes. lol >>> Hi Harv, how are you doing? Remember me? Sharon. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Going on 4 years now. :-) God has been watching over me, but keeps me on > my toes. lol That is really good news. I have lost so many friends and neighbors to cancer. It lets a person know that they still have purpose on this earth when they survive cancer. Please take part here,,,, you are needed for that too. harv >>>> Hi Harv, how are you doing? Remember me? Sharon. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > that too. > harv Having had cancer it sure does shake you up and makes you realize that bad things can happen to good people alright and you tend to look at life differently, it becomes so much more precious. I'm sorry you lost your friends to it, it is a nasty thing to deal with. I have been reading the group Harv and it seems like a very good one and I would like to join in and get to meet everyone. I suppose I should introduce myself to everyone. When I first posted I was hurting pretty bad, but things are back to normal now, I just hurt when I use the joints, I had never delt with the aching before and it is frustrating that I can't take any arthritis medication to ease that and the hurt. But if I go off the warfrin I can get another blood clot. I'm in a kind of catch 22 here. >> Do you know if this messes with the drug Warfrin? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > rheumatologist, or a different rheumatologist to find a less problematic > RA treatment. I know there are a lot of things that I can't eat or eat much of. So I just stick with the same ol same ol. I do have a list though on my refrigerator. You can have lettuce but not a lot of it, If you only have it seldom then eat it that is where the danger can come in. But if you are going to eat it, just a small amount and on a regular basis. I have a salad about once a week sometimes two and my INR is staying right where they want it. But I have to check everything an all doctors know of my condition. Well, right now he has given me pain pills to take, non narcotic and no stomach problem pill and I get steroid shots. I have only seen him a couple times so I haven't been able to form an opinion one way or the other of him other than he is very compassionate and wants to help me. I seem to have developed a spur??? on my middle finger on my right hand though that is sometimes very painful. When my finger lays straight I can't feel it, but when I bend it, the spur??? sticks up under the skin and then if I touch it with anything it is very painful. I have to make an appointment and see him and quit messing around. Thank you for responding, you gave me a good tip about trying something for a week before going in. Some antibiotics even mess with the INR. >>> Do you know if this messes with the drug Warfrin? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I know there are a lot of things that I can't eat or eat much of. So I > just stick with the same ol same ol. The deal is actually this: you can eat most anything, but you need to keep the diet fairly constant and adjust the medecine to suit. There is some sort of relationship with warfarin and vitamine K, which is abundant in salads and other things. If you have a salad most days you probably take less warfarin than someone who does not. So you set up a diet that is fairly constant in certain things. It doesn't have to be the same every day it just has to be fairly constant in things that make a difference. When I took that stuff I had a salad every day and we got the doasage just right. If you're new on warfarin it will take some time to get the dosage right anyway. So set up a diet witht he tings you like and make if fairly constant and you are all set. Next time you get blood drawn they can adjust the dosage. I don't recall the ins and outs of the warfaring business, but if you have that settled then you can go on and try to get a better arthritis treatment. You may have to be more careful, but you shouldn't have to forego treatment because of warfarin as long as everyone knows the status of each of the treatments. I think that is correct, but maybe someone knows better. >>>> Do you know if this messes with the drug Warfrin? >>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > I think that is correct, but maybe someone knows better. I'm aware of the vitamin K and lots of food has it in them. I am on 4mg. a day and 6 on Sunday, that keeps it where they want it. I now go in 1x a month to get tested. I was taking Mobic and it was doing a great job, but they immedietly took me off it as they was afraid it would make my stomach bleed. The Rhumotologist then put me on Tramadol for the pain, but I don't take it as prescribed although it is not a narcotic he said I could become dependent on it so I don't want to go there. instead of 3 pills a day, I just take it at night, if I don't my neck is very sore in the morning. I will take your advise though and talk to him and see if there isn't anything that will mess with my stomach. He said there was no limit on steroid shots when I needed them, but so far he has only used them on my thumbs and one knee. I try to maintain a good attitude about it all but sometimes it is hard to do when you are in pain. I just thank God that I have the computer and can talk to people as that keeps my mind off all it a good bit of the time. I don't want to get down, it is so important I maintain a positive attitude because of the cancer. |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2008 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.