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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / May 2006Almost at wits end....
Hi: I'm almost at my wits end with my problem of sleeping at night. I have spinal stenosis, more than likely caused by the two herniated discs in my lower back. The aching in my legs and feet at night is becoming un-bearable. I also have sleep apnea(sleep lab diagnosed)so to say I'm not getting a good nights sleep is an understatement. I'm not sure the other serious med condition I have is contributing to it(Hep C). My Doctor said orthopedic surgery is out of the question at this time due he said to my other conditions...Hemophiliac with Hep C(liver is in chirosis). I'm driving my wife crazy with my constant leg shuffling and moving around all night. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions to help me get a better nights sleep? Thank You Paul. I am saddened to hear of your difficulties and hope that your pain eases soon. Soon after I got RA my wife and I realised that we had to say goodbye to the double bed because pain in the shoulders and the knees, elbows other joints made me move around a lot. Therefore we bought two single beds and have slept in single beds ever since. In 28 years it hasn't wrecked our marriage ! Peter Peter: Glad to hear that single beds didn't ruin your marriage. I guess I don't fear that, but it just feels like something else taken from us by sickness. After all Dick Van Dyke and Mary-tyler Moore had single beds and their show was on TV for years.. :)) Onward and Upward as they say. >Peter: Glad to hear that single beds didn't ruin your marriage. I guess >I don't fear that, but it just feels like something else taken from us >by sickness. > >After all Dick Van Dyke and Mary-tyler Moore had single beds and their >show was on TV for years.. :)) And they managed to make that little boy, was it "Ritchie"? And also Lucy and Ricky Ricardo had separate beds, yet there was "Little Ricky"! I worry about this, too. We have a king-size waterbed, the old fashioned kind that moves a lot. I have trouble sleeping too and sometimes my husband gets annoyed when i'm lying there stretching out my neck and moving around, or giving out a little cry when i turn over. <snip> >Does anyone have any advice or > suggestions to help me get a better > nights sleep? My pharmacist recommended (and I tried) "Nutra Skin & Joint Ultra Relief MSM Cream" It works for me, but I used it only occasionally. It rubs in dry (non-oily) and gives nearly instant relief. It costs about $18 for a four ounce jar, which should last several months. Check out the ingredients first, some folks are allergic to MSM. Hope you can find some help. Cheers Lee O. Bob and I sleep in separate beds. I got to keep the double and he uses a single because his CPAP requires him to lay still. I am all over the double bed with leg pain and sciatic nerve jumps. Don't know if this will make you sleep any better but it helps us. When I get really bad, I slip out to the living room and finish the night in the recliner. {{{{{Paul}}}}} DeeTee > Hi: I'm almost at my wits end with my problem of sleeping at night. I > have spinal stenosis, more than likely caused by the two herniated [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Thank You Thanks all for your suggestions.(and compassion) Paul. Paul It sounds like you are really having some difficult times. I sure hope you get some relief soon. I can sympathize with you as I too have spinal stenosis. My back and hip, and legs hurt me so bad I couldn't sit,walk or sleep. In order to delay surgery on my back my ortho suggested me to have a spinal injection at the pain clinic here. I did so and it did help me and almost completely eased my pain. The pain will likely return but I can get 3 injections in a year and it they help me I will do that instead of surgery. has your doctor mentioned anything about this steroid injection in your spine? I highly recommend it (it didn't hurt) janice | Thanks all for your suggestions.(and compassion) | | Paul. G'day Paul, Small suggestion from the queen of pharmaceuticals...have you tried Ambien? That mixed with Clonazepam (which may or may not help at this point) may knock you out so hard, that you are 'unaware' of the pain your body feels. I was up to 20mgs. a night at one point & I never had that icky groggy feeling afterwards. After a car accident in Egypt (I was walking, the car was going about 40mph...I swear I was innocent!!!!), I learned they are funny about treating women. I spent about an hour in the emergency room and then was sent home....without a full workup. Later I was diagnosed with a serious brain injury (probably from going through the guys windshield) and a seizure disorder. Anyway...the point to this story is....I hurt like hell....every part of me ACHED and the docs gave me nothing for it. If I could walk I was fine. So, I had my own stash of Ambien and clonazepam (for anxiety....if you are new to it you will get a buzz from it and then fall asleep).....this cocktail was WONDERFUL for me. The clonazepam (originally prescribed for an anxiety disorder) made me 'forget' I even had a problem (pain) and the Ambien took over and let me sleep solidly for 7 hour stretches....It was a blessing. Just a suggestion and I have no idea how that will work with any other meds you are on, or your liver condition, but if you are going for straight relief....this is a fabulous combination. good luck!!!! sending warmth and light, awyn Oy! I've had pinched nerves in my neck at times, but only for brief periods (thanks to good chiros). I don't even want to think about the discomfort from your spinal stenosis. You might want to get to a Pain Clinic. These are usually run by anesthesiologists and they have lots of tricks to interrupt the nerve signals that torment folks with problems such as yours. I used to work on the floor of a teaching hospital that got their post-op patients (generally overnight stays to adjust meds) who had these specific procedures done. Many of them had great relief. These are minimally invasive procedures so I think they'd be possible with the hemophilia, but of course only the specialists can say for certain. Even if the procedures aren't feasible at this time, they might have other ideas ways to manage your pain through meds. Ask around for a good pain clinic - I've heard there are some bozos out there even in pain management! If they can treat your apnea and a pain specialist can help with your spinal nerves, maybe you can sleep better and recover better from the Hep C. What a load of ailments you have to deal with!  SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare |
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