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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / June 2006OTP Its about worms and viruses and trojans
Hi All,,,, If you wondered why I have not emailed you or answered your email,,,, I got a nasty one and it took my youngest son all one afternoon to root it out and I still have two items quarantined. How it all came about,,,,, I like to see the trailers of new movies that are coming out and sometimes go to the stars sites to learn about them. This whatever it was was waiting for me on one of those sites. It took over my computer and put its own advertisements on my screen every so often. It even offered to sell me a program for $49 that would clean it all out of my system.... That made me soooo mad and it took my son about a couple of weeks to get over here to do the dirty work of rooting it nearly all out of my system without paying any blackmail. I watched a little of what he was having to do and it was wayyy over my head. Renaming files, the win xp program commands were put in,,, operated and then removed and the old command put back in,,,, made my head spin,,, I went and got me one of those new Mich in a aluminum bottle and talked to my grandson while he did what had to be done on the computer. Something else that burned me about this Trojan was that Norton programming which I have had for years could not even touch it. Good bye Norton and I bought a new one my son thought was better. To make a long story shorter,,,, stay off those star websites,,,, some very nasty stuff is waiting for you. I am sorry that I can not tell you which one it was on but it is probably on different ones now anyway. Just another day on the web.... Harv I'm so sorry that this happened to you. I will warn my son who also likes those sites! Vickie B. So, Harv, which anti-virus are you using? My computer is slower and I had a similar experience a month ago. What I notice now is every morning there seems to be more bytes (?) on my Norton report. Also, last year I renewed as soon as Norton advised I was 30 days from expiration--and they promptly renewed but counted from the date I renewed; which means I lost a month I paid for. Jan O' > Hi All,,,, If you wondered why I have not emailed you or answered your > email,,,, I got a nasty one and it took my youngest son all one afternoon [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Just another day on the web.... > Harv Hi Jan,,,, I was in my last month before renewal with Norton. It has to be uninstalled before installing another program. The new program is Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2006 . I am still learning how to use it properly,,,,, sooo can not tell you what to do with it without making some kind of mistake. It does the spy-ware, virus, Trojans,,, ect.ect. and is auto on the updates and new stuff. Harv > So, Harv, which anti-virus are you using? My computer is slower and I had > a similar experience a month ago. What I notice now is every morning [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> Just another day on the web.... >> Harv It just goes to show you that if you don't wear a trojan you could get a virus...and in some parts of the world, worms, too... > It just goes to show you that if you don't wear a trojan you could get a > virus...and in some parts of the world, worms, too... LOLOLOL and even that does nothing crabs and lobsters. SomBodyELse Aw, rats. Now I have bread crumbs on my monitor... that's called a "blackworm" trojan and more then likely you picked it up from an email and not a trailer, unless you downloaded the trailer from someplace like kaaza or limewire. it is possible that someone nice grabbed a "stars" trailer and somehow reuploaded it to the "stars" site without them knowing it to infect anyone that downloaded. been there done that, and even pc-llin won't remove it the next time you get it. only a format will.  SignatureUrbana Lurker Extraordinaire : Hi All,,,, If you wondered why I have not emailed you or answered your : email,,,, I got a nasty one and it took my youngest son all one afternoon to [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] : Just another day on the web.... : Harv Hi there, I was thinking that maybe I could offer some helpful suggestions. For any of you that has had one of these experiences one thing I would like to suggest is that you go to your control panel and click on "add/remove programs" This will bring up a list of the programs that are on your computer. Check to see if there are programs that you have not added or didn't know were added to your computer. A lot of these you can uninstall. Some of these varmits that put spyware and viruses on your system are so rotten that they try to set them up so they can't be removed. But there are ways to get it done. Also, one of the best anti-virus softwares that I've come across is at pandasoftware.com. > Hi there, I was thinking that maybe I could offer some helpful > suggestions. For any of you that has had one of these experiences one [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Also, one of the best anti-virus softwares that I've come across is at > pandasoftware.com. Thank you very much and when there was nothing new to be removed and I did find something in start up that no matter what I did it would come right back. I knew that it was wayyyy over my head. I will have to save your post for next year. :-) Already put my money down on this years program. So it goes. Harv But how do I (a neophyte or just a dummie) know what is safe to remove? Jan O' >>Check to see if there are programs that you have not added or didn't know >>were added to your computer.<< > But how do I (a neophyte or just a dummie) know what is safe to remove? > Jan O' >>>Check to see if there are programs that you have not added or didn't know >>>were added to your computer.<< You have asked the question of the day about trying to handle this problem. If you do not know,,,,, do not delete. You talk about screwing up your computer or computer programs,,,,,,, big time.... It takes a semi-pro.... Harv Sorry to say but there is now something to add to your list "ROOTKITS" rootkits are able to bypass your anitvirus and firewall's. If anyone want to know more ? listen to these audio file form grg-spin right ( they also have other good files as well ) http://www.grc.com/SecurityNow.htm#42 " Episode #9 | 13 Oct 2005 | 32 min.Rootkits This week we discuss "rootkit technology". We examine what rootkits are, why they have suddenly become a problem, and how that problem is rapidly growing in severity. We also discuss their detection and removal and point listeners to some very effective free rootkit detection solutions." Episode #12 | 03 Nov 2005 | 24 min. Sony's "Rootkit Technology" DRM (copy protection gone bad) Leo and I discuss details and consequences of Sony Corporation's alarming "Rootkit" DRM (digital rights management) copy protection scheme. This poorly written software unnecessarily employs classic rootkit technology (see episode #9) to hide from its users after installation. It can not be uninstalled easily, it can be easily misused for malicious purposes, and it has been implicated in many repeated BSOD "blue screen of death" PC crashes. http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html#1 13083683466490186 here you can download "RootkitRevealer" a free program that will show you if you have any knowed rootkits. ( its not one of those try to get you to buy something programs .... its free ) http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,69601,00.html for this story ... snip "On Oct. 31, Mark Russinovich broke the story in his blog: Sony BMG Music Entertainment distributed a copy-protection scheme with music CDs that secretly installed a rootkit on computers. This software tool is run without your knowledge or consent -- if it's loaded on your computer with a CD, a hacker can gain and maintain access to your system and you wouldn't know it. The Sony code modifies Windows so you can't tell it's there, a process called "cloaking" in the hacker world. It acts as spyware, surreptitiously sending information about you to Sony. And it can't be removed; trying to get rid of it damages Windows." snip sony not the only bad guy here just one of the biggest ones caught so far |
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