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ironjustice@aol.com - 12 May 2006 03:19 GMT
Arthritis is CAUSED in this animal model by using iron to induce
oxidation.
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Free radical damage in facsimile synovium: correlation with adhesion
formation in osteoarthritic TMJs.
Sheets DW, Okamoto T, Dijkgraaf LC, Milam SB, Schmitz JP, Zardeneta G
J Prosthodont. 2006 Jan-Feb ; 15(1): 9-19

PURPOSE: The purpose of this study was to use the rat air pouch model
of facsimile synovium to evaluate oxidative stress as a primary
mechanism in the pathogenesis of degenerative temporomandibular joint
(TMJ) disease. MATERIALS AND METHODS: Forty-nine Sprague-Dawley adult
female rats were used to generate the standard rat air pouch model of
facsimile synovium. This was accomplished by daily air injections (20
cc) subdermally through the dorsal skin. Hydrogen peroxide and ferrous
iron (components of the Fenton reaction which generate free radicals)
were introduced into the pouches of the 4-, 7-, and 14-day groups to
generate oxidative stress. Control rats were injected with
phosphate-buffered solution (PBS), pH 7.4. Either N-acetylcysteine
(NAC), a powerful free radical scavenger, or ibuprofen were
simultaneously injected with the Fenton reagents into the pouches of
the 14-day treatment groups to modulate free radical-mediated protein
damage to the synovium. Animals were euthanized at appropriate
experimental intervals and biopsies obtained from specimens to analyze:
(1) proteins' amino acid modification (carbonyl group formation), (2)
protein hydrophobicity, (3) detection of low molecular weight protein
degradation products, and (4) histological and gross anatomical
observations. RESULTS: Free radicals introduced into the rat air pouch
interacted with synovial tissues causing oxidation and breakdown of
proteins. Clinical evidence of adhesion formation consistent with
features found in osteoarthritis of the TMJ developed. The groups
subjected to oxidative stress experienced statistically significant (p
< 0.05) increases in carbonyl formation, carbonyls/protein, and low
molecular weight protein fragments. These groups also showed
significant (p < 0.05) hydrophobicity changes consistent with free
radical attack. Control synovial tissues were statistically undamaged.
The 14-day NAC and ibuprofen treatment groups experienced statistically
significant (p < 0.05) decreases in total carbonyl formation,
carbonyls/protein, and hydrophobicity. Histological and gross
observations in free radical damaged synovium exhibited features
consistent with known arthoscopic and arthrocentesis findings in
diseased TMJs. Conclusions: This study suggests that the rat air pouch
model of facsimile synovium develops clinical evidence of adhesions and
biochemical signs of protein modification when subjected to free
radical attack. NAC and ibuprofen prevented carbonyl formation as well
as hydrophobicity changes indicative of oxidative stress damage in
facsimile synovium. These findings are consistent with features of
degenerative human TMJ disease. Future direction may be taken from this
study to postulate new analysis techniques and treatment modalities for
patients with degenerative TMJ disease.

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babawali@world.com - 12 May 2006 12:43 GMT
It is good we do not have giants injecting substances on purpose to induce
a state of inflammation.  Do injections cause arthritis?  
spodosaurus - 12 May 2006 15:25 GMT
> Arthritis is CAUSED in this animal model by using iron to induce
> oxidation.
> ------------------------

<stuff tommah copy and pasted snipped>

Tommah, tommah, tommah...please read what you copied and then follow the
instructions: inject yourself with air, iron, and hydrogen peroxide. Let
us know how that works out for you.

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Paul T. Holland - 12 May 2006 17:12 GMT
it doesn't say that is 'causes' the arthritis tommy

it says that some 'damage' is caused by excess free radicals...which is -
of course - not new information at all. just that this study confirms it in
a specific situation.

now, arthritis is a 'generic' term for over 170 separate medical
conditions,

these conditions have, as a common factor, various degrees of inflammation
and/or degenerative damage to bone, tissues, etc.

what has been shown in your study is that 'when' the free radicals reach an
excess state, certain types of damage are caused. and, as your other study
showed, it is the disease process that created the 'conditions' for the
excess free radicals to exist...

what the study does 'not' say, is that the free radical state is the
causative action of the arthritis disease process itself - ie, as the other
studies you have posted showed, it is an intermediary stage...

> Arthritis is CAUSED in this animal model by using iron to induce
> oxidation.
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ironjustice@aol.com - 13 May 2006 15:40 GMT
>>what the study does 'not' say, is that the free radical state is the
causative action of the arthritis disease process itself <<

Your stupidity is .. obvious ..

The whole purpose of the study was to study the free radical state as
the causative action / "primary mechanism"  ..

See .. ? .. below .. ?

>>The purpose of this study was to use the rat air pouch model
of facsimile synovium to evaluate oxidative stress as a primary
mechanism in the pathogenesis of degenerative temporomandibular joint
(TMJ) disease<<

Free radicals and oxidative stress are one and the .. SAME ..

So it seems .. contrary to what YOU .. believe / understand .. the
study CONFIRMED .. exactly what they has proposed ..

Oxidative stress / free radicals / reactive oxygen species / rust  ..
IS .. 'primary
mechanism in the pathogenesis of degenerative temporomandibular joint
(TMJ) disease'..

Understand .. ?

Heh .. heh ..

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ironjustice@aol.com - 13 May 2006 01:05 GMT
<<snip>>
iron-catalysed formation of destructive oxygen metabolites
<<snip>>

Pathogenesis of haemophilic arthropathy.
Roosendaal G, Lafeber FP
Haemophilia. 2006 Jul ; 12 Suppl 3: 117-21

Summary. The pathogenetic mechanism of haemophilic arthropathy is
multifactorial and includes degenerative cartilage-mediated and
inflammatory synovium-mediated components. Intra-articular blood first
has a direct effect on cartilage, as a result of the iron-catalysed
formation of destructive oxygen metabolites (resulting in chondrocyte
apoptosis), and subsequently affects the synovium, in addition to
haemosiderin-induced synovial triggering. Both processes occur in
parallel, and while they influence each other they probably do not
depend on each other. This concept resembles degenerative joint damage
as found in osteoarthritis as well as inflammatory processes in
rheumatoid arthritis. These processes finally result in a fibrotic and
destroyed joint.

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er@gmail.com - 13 May 2006 01:14 GMT
><<snip>>
>iron-catalysed formation of destructive oxygen metabolites

He's been spamming, cross posting and generally making no sense at all
for years now [not forgeting all his abusive responses] he  really
should have better medical help.
Paul T. Holland - 13 May 2006 01:43 GMT
gosh tommy - did you know that it is commonly considered ot be linked to
strong genetic predisposition (HLA-DR4)

Stage 1 – acute haemoarthrosis in child when begin to walk
Stage 2 – subacute or chronic arthritis
Stage 3 – ‘end-stage arthropathy’

in other words, it's an effect...

> <<snip>>
> iron-catalysed formation of destructive oxygen metabolites
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