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Lindy - 04 May 2006 13:59 GMT
While I haven't posted or read the group in years and years, I find myself
here again because I am interested in knowing if anyone here has experienced
a problem with their hair due to meds.

I am a 51 year old female, diabetic since the age of 5, was diagnosed with
RA in 1973 and over the years have been on too many pills to count for the
RA.  I had a total elbow replacement several years ago (WooHoo!!) and I've
been on Methotrexate for probably 15 years or so, started taking Arava about
2 years ago, and also take Celebrex.

About this time last year I noticed something weird going on with my hair.
A lot of thinning but the weird part is that it's been straight my entire
life and about this time last year I noticed that it was starting to get a
bit wavy.  FF a year and it's now kinky, but just on the underneath parts
(looks like a perm gone bad).  The top layer is still straight.  It took me
awhile but I finally woke up to the fact that something was going on.  Had
an appointment with a dermatologist for something else but mentioned my hair
problem while I was there and asked her what was happening.  After reading
my list of meds she said she thinks it could be an overload of the
Methotrexate/Arava (very simplified explanation here from me as to exactly
what she said) and that I needed to tell my rheumatologist.  Saw him and he
took me off the Arava, instructed me to stay on the Methotrexate and
Celebrex and see him again in 3 months -- at which time he may put me on one
of the new RA meds, the injectable kind (didn't say which one). He told me
the hair thinning could take a long time to see any results so not to hold
my breath about it and agreed that the kinky hair could because of the meds
also.

Sorry to be so long about all of this but my question is, has anyone here
experienced anything like this and what was the outcome?

  ~Lindy~
Diane - 04 May 2006 14:37 GMT
hi linday,

my hair's gotten extremely thin since being on arava, but my derm
thinks it's female pattern baldness, although no one else in my family
has this. it's pretty frustrating. my hair started out kinky, so i
really haven't noticed any difference there. good luck

diane
Lindy - 04 May 2006 14:45 GMT
Diane said:

> hi linday,
>
> my hair's gotten extremely thin since being on arava, but my derm
> thinks it's female pattern baldness, although no one else in my family
> has this. it's pretty frustrating. my hair started out kinky, so i
> really haven't noticed any difference there. good luck

Hi Diane.  I forgot to mention that my dermatologist said mine was not
female pattern baldness.  I'm a bit thin up top but have gotten extremely
thin on the sides and in the back around my ears, and almost bald patches in
the back of my scalp.  This whole situation is just perplexing to me and I'm
really nervous what it's going to look like at my daughter's wedding in
September.  I bought some Rogaine but what a pain in the butt that is twice
a day!

  ~Lindy~
Lee O. - 05 May 2006 02:52 GMT
<snip>
>I bought some Rogaine but what a pain
> in the butt that is twice a day!

Lindy,  Read the instructions. You're not supposed to use it on your
butt.  !!!!!!!!  :-)

Cheers            Lee O.
ladylove77 - 05 May 2006 03:08 GMT
LOL!
Gwen

> <snip>
>>I bought some Rogaine but what a pain
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>
> Cheers            Lee O.
Lindy - 05 May 2006 03:47 GMT
Lee O said:

> <snip>
> >I bought some Rogaine but what a pain
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>
> Cheers            Lee O.

Lol!  Smartass!

  ~Lindy~
Alix M. Hall - 05 May 2006 19:06 GMT
Rogaine on the butt gives you hair on the butt but what do you put on it to
make it smart???????

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        Alix

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but a pig will look  man right in the eye and see his equal".
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> Lee O said:
>
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>
>   ~Lindy~
Lindy - 05 May 2006 20:11 GMT
Alix said:

> Rogaine on the butt gives you hair on the butt but what do you put on it
> to make it smart???????

Let's ask Lee O!

  ~Lindy~ giggling
Lee O. - 06 May 2006 02:30 GMT
>Alix said:

>Rogaine on the butt gives you hair on the
> butt but what do you put on it to make it
> smart???????

>Let's ask Lee O!

>      ~Lindy~ giggling

Hell, I don't know.  I don't need to make my butt smart, I'm already a
wiseass.  :-)

Cheers       Lee O.
Sunny52 - 04 May 2006 15:06 GMT
Hi Linday,

Don't ya just love the renewed movement after an elbow replacement?!
Prior to my replacement, my elbow was stuck in the bent position.

I don't know much about the hair changes you have experienced.  My hair
has thinned quite a bit over the years, but I'm not sure if heredity
played a factor as well as the RA drugs I take.  Right now I am off of
all RA drugs as I am taking Coumadin (just got home from yet another
surgery).  But, I will soon go back on Enbrel, Celebrex and Mtx (oral).

I hope the docs can find an answer for you.

Bonnie
Lindy - 04 May 2006 15:32 GMT
Bonnie said:

> Don't ya just love the renewed movement after an elbow replacement?!
> Prior to my replacement, my elbow was stuck in the bent position.

Oh my gosh!  I can't even tell you what a difference it made for me!  I had
already had 2 surgeries on it prior to the replacement surgery.  First they
removed the radial head.  After that, I never did get my arm straight.
Probably because it was so weak and atrophied by the time I finally had the
surgery plus I didn't have physical therapy.  I was just never able to get
my strength back in that arm.  Then a few years after that they did a more
severe surgery, an arthroplasty, where they took some tissue out of my leg
and grafted it into the elbow.  That helped a lot and after months of
physical therapy (ouch!) I was good to go.  It lasted about 13 years then my
problems started again.  By the time I got the replacement my arm was stuck
in a bent position too.  It was absolutely miserable.

> I don't know much about the hair changes you have experienced.  My hair
> has thinned quite a bit over the years, but I'm not sure if heredity
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>
> I hope the docs can find an answer for you.

I do too!  Growing up with straight-as-a-broomstick hair, I always wished
for curls or waves.  Now that I've got them, I'm freaking out!! Thanks for
responding -- it's **SO** nice to talk with someone else who has had an
elbow replacement!!

  ~Lindy~
Sunny52 - 04 May 2006 22:50 GMT
"Thanks for responding -- it's **SO** nice to talk with someone else
who has had an
elbow replacement!!

  ~Lindy~ "

I haven't spoken with too many people who have had an elbow replaced, I
think we're in a small group. lol

Bonnie
Lindy - 05 May 2006 00:05 GMT
Bonnie said:

> I haven't spoken with too many people who have had an elbow replaced, I
> think we're in a small group. lol

You're the first I've ever talked with!  It's not a very common surgery to
have.  I know to be very careful/protective with it but I feel very lucky to
have my life back again.  The only thing that scares me is when it's time is
up and I'll need a re-do.  But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

  ~Lindy~
gail - 06 May 2006 08:23 GMT
Hi,
My hair fell out, but not completely as a result of MTX - when I
started on cyclosporin the hair came back somewhat. Unfortunately the
body forgot what part of the body needed hair so I now have very hairy
arms.
Gail
Harvey R. Stone - 04 May 2006 18:12 GMT
Hi Lindy,,,,  Someone will get around to saying that with Methx and/or
Arava,,, a person needs to take folic acid because those two drugs bock your
bodies ability to get it from the food you eat.   You can also tae Biotin or
Bioten, I can never remember the way it is spelled and zippppooo here comes
the hair back butttt a person needs the folic acid because it so important
to many things in how our system works or more importantly does not work
without it
Harv
> While I haven't posted or read the group in years and years, I find myself
> here again because I am interested in knowing if anyone here has
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>
>   ~Lindy~
Lindy - 04 May 2006 18:30 GMT
Harvey said:

> Hi Lindy,,,,  Someone will get around to saying that with Methx and/or
> Arava,,, a person needs to take folic acid because those two drugs bock
> your bodies ability to get it from the food you eat.

I neglected to mention that I do take the folic acid also.  The doctor has
had me on it for several years.

>You can also tae Biotin or Bioten, I can never remember the way it is
>spelled and zippppooo here comes the hair back

Ooooh!  This is exciting!  Is this something I need a prescription for?
I've never heard of it.  Tell me more!!

  ~Lindy~
Harvey R. Stone - 04 May 2006 23:50 GMT
>>You can also tae Biotin or Bioten, I can never remember the way it is
>>spelled and zippppooo here comes the hair back
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>
>   ~Lindy~

no prescription,,, Vit.store....
harv
Lindy - 05 May 2006 00:07 GMT
Harv said:

> no prescription,,, Vit.store....

First thing tomorrow morning, I'll be there.  In the meantime, I'm going to
see what I can find about it online.  Thank you Harv!

  ~Lindy~
ladylove77 - 05 May 2006 03:07 GMT
I bought some at WalMart the other day.  (Biotin)
Gwen

>>>You can also tae Biotin or Bioten, I can never remember the way it is
>>>spelled and zippppooo here comes the hair back
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> no prescription,,, Vit.store....
> harv
Nann Bell - 05 May 2006 04:59 GMT
> Harvey said:
>
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>
>    ~Lindy~
\
Oh, I forgot about the Biotin also.  It's OTC, a B class vitamin.  I take the
Rexall brand from WalMart (notice a trend here?  shopping options are limited
wher I live!).  I'm taking 1500 mcg/day.

My mom's derm recommended it to her for splitting fingernails and she passed
the info on to me.  I was actually taking it before the arava hit my hair too
hard.  The only problem for me is that between it and the grape seed, my hair
and fingernails seem to be growing faster than ever.  Sigh.... it's always
something.............. heehee

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Lindy - 05 May 2006 12:26 GMT
Nann said:

> Oh, I forgot about the Biotin also.  It's OTC, a B class vitamin.  I take the
> Rexall brand from WalMart (notice a trend here?  shopping options are limited
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> and fingernails seem to be growing faster than ever.  Sigh.... it's always
> something.............. heehee

Well I guess I will be hitting Walmart this morning for both of these items.
Hope I have the same result!

  ~Lindy~
Nann Bell - 05 May 2006 04:55 GMT
Lindy, I was on the mtx/Arava combo for a while until we finally got on good
enough insurance to get me on Ebnrel.  My hair loss definitely escalated on
that combo, but I didn't have any of it turning kinky, thank goodness.  Now I
have really thick hair to begin with, so didn't mind it thinning some, but I
got really fed up with cleaning up all the hair I was shedding everywhere!  
LOL  

So I finally started taking the grape seed extract that I knew others here
were taking for hair loss issues.  Big, big change!  I just take grape seed
plus from WalMart.  It's always hard to find at my local store though.  Last
time out I and another woman were both looking for it and it still took us
about 5 minutes to find it!  LOL

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Duckie - 05 May 2006 08:52 GMT
Let's see -- I know it is Milk Thistle for the liver which is unhappy
with both the MTX and the Arava.
Is it grape seed extract for the hair?  Is that right guys?  It is to
reverse the thinning due to the drugs.
Duckie

> While I haven't posted or read the group in years and years, I find myself
> here again because I am interested in knowing if anyone here has experienced
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>
>    ~Lindy~
 
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