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Sunny52 - 24 Apr 2006 18:19 GMT
I finally have a date for surgery; Thursday, April 27th.  The doctor is
still not sure if I will need a partial or a full revision.  Either
way, I have a full six weeks pf physical therapy to look forward to.  I
was wondering if it is beneficial to go to a rehab hospital after the
surgery.  Does anyone have experience with a rehab facility following
TKR or TKR revision surgery?

Thanks.

Bonnie
Jan O'Keeffe - 24 Apr 2006 20:55 GMT
Bonnie-
Had my 2 TKRs a month apart.  Had 3 home health visits after number 1 and no
PT after the second one.  My best advice is to use the
over-the-bed-tray-table.  As soon as they get you up, start putting your
foot on the rung across the bottom of the table and use your arms to pull
your foot toward you--you'll get good bending right away.  I am totally not
able to use crutches, walker, etc. because my worst joints have always been
hands, wrists, elbows and shoulders.   Good luck.  Jan O'

>I finally have a date for surgery; Thursday, April 27th.  The doctor is
> still not sure if I will need a partial or a full revision.  Either
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> Bonnie
Sunny52 - 24 Apr 2006 22:41 GMT
Thanks, Jan.  I also have difficulty with my upper body, so that tray
table trick is a great idea!

Bonnie
Duckie - 25 Apr 2006 02:49 GMT
A rocking chair was the best thing I found for bending. Works great.
Duckie

> Bonnie-
> Had my 2 TKRs a month apart.  Had 3 home health visits after number 1 and no
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>>Bonnie
Sunny52 - 25 Apr 2006 12:23 GMT
Thanks, Duckie.  E Gads!!  I never thought nursing home when I started
to investigate rehab possibilities!

Bonnie
Navy1 - 25 Apr 2006 22:19 GMT
That's what they recommended to my mom.

Loujean

>A rocking chair was the best thing I found for bending. Works great.
>Duckie
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>>>Bonnie
tsedinger@yahoo.com - 25 Apr 2006 21:36 GMT
I had 2 hip replacements this winter. In talking overin patient rehab
with my surgeon he thought that you could get qway with not having
rehab for hip surgery but was definitely needed for knee replacements.
something about how the joint must be kept moving. hope this thought
helps with your decision.
Sunny52 - 25 Apr 2006 21:51 GMT
Thanks!  I hope you are doing well with the hip replacements.

Bonnie
ladylove77 - 25 Apr 2006 22:14 GMT
When I was in the Rehab Hospital after my hip replacement, the THRs and TKRs
did the same exercises for the first few weeks.
Gwen

>I had 2 hip replacements this winter. In talking overin patient rehab
> with my surgeon he thought that you could get qway with not having
> rehab for hip surgery but was definitely needed for knee replacements.
> something about how the joint must be kept moving. hope this thought
> helps with your decision.
Navy1 - 24 Apr 2006 22:06 GMT
My mom did the inhospital rehab for a couple of weeks and then had
inhome rehab.  She found it very easy.  She thinks she got more rehab
at the hospital that way.

Loujean

>I finally have a date for surgery; Thursday, April 27th.  The doctor is
>still not sure if I will need a partial or a full revision.  Either
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>
>Bonnie
Sunny52 - 24 Apr 2006 22:43 GMT
Thanks, LouJean.

Was your Mom moving more easily when she arrived home after two weeks?

Bonnie
Navy1 - 25 Apr 2006 22:07 GMT
Most definitely.  The home nurse and physical therapist both said she
was recovering quite well.  She moved much more easily.  She used to
take about 4 or 5 starting pushes before she could stand up from a
chair.  Now she's able to do it better.  If she's tired, she may have
to try a couple times, but most of the time, she can just stand up.

Loujean

>Thanks, LouJean.
>
>Was your Mom moving more easily when she arrived home after two weeks?
>
>Bonnie
Nann Bell - 25 Apr 2006 19:24 GMT
Best of luck with the surgery, Bonnie, and remind us again just beforehand so
we can crank up the ASA healing machine.

My mom also did inpatient rehab for 2 weeks post-op.  She lived alone (though
she'd made arrangements to ahve someone stay with her) and had a lot of
weakness from polymyalgia at the time, so her PCP wanted her to stay in for
rehab initially.  She was in a special rehab unit of the hospital though, not
a nursing home.  So if you can get a rehab unit it might be beneficial.  She
says they did spend a lot of time working with her and she was probably able
to move on to other or more execises sooner than she would have at home as
she could wear herself out more than she could at home!  (sshe would have
been very compliant in home rehab, but one just does have other chores to do
at home that one doesn't ahve in the hospital!)

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> My mom did the inhospital rehab for a couple of weeks and then had
> inhome rehab.  She found it very easy.  She thinks she got more rehab
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>> Bonnie
Sunny52 - 25 Apr 2006 21:20 GMT
Thanks, Nann.  I am really nervous about this surgery, and I could use
some extra thoughts from the ASA healing machine.

Bonnie
Navy1 - 25 Apr 2006 22:20 GMT
Guess the best thing to do is check with your doctor and find out what
he means by inpatient rehab!

Loujean

>Best of luck with the surgery, Bonnie, and remind us again just beforehand so
>we can crank up the ASA healing machine.
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>been very compliant in home rehab, but one just does have other chores to do
>at home that one doesn't ahve in the hospital!)
Sunny52 - 26 Apr 2006 12:54 GMT
Thanks everyone for the help, you guys are the best!

I have to be at the hospital tomorrow at 5:30am!  I guess it's better
to be the first OR case, but I'll be leaving the house around 4am, and
that's way too early for me!!!

Healing vibes and prayers to everyone in need.

Bonnie
tsedinger@yahoo.com - 26 Apr 2006 14:35 GMT
Good luck! I'm glad you're going first. Waiting is the worst. My hip
surgeries were at noon so I had a lot of time to be hungry, tired,
dying for a cup of coffee, and just plain worrying.
Sunny52 - 26 Apr 2006 18:55 GMT
Thanks!  This is my seventh surgey, and I am still very nervous.  I
know I will wake up looking for the largest cup of coffee I can find.
lol

Bonnie
Navy1 - 27 Apr 2006 01:46 GMT
Know that all of us will be praying for you.  God bless, Bonnie

Loujean

>Thanks!  This is my seventh surgey, and I am still very nervous.  I
>know I will wake up looking for the largest cup of coffee I can find.
>lol
>
>Bonnie
Squirrely - 26 Apr 2006 18:07 GMT
Bonnie,

Prayers and healing thoughts coming your way.

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> Thanks everyone for the help, you guys are the best!
>
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>
> Bonnie
Duckie - 25 Apr 2006 02:47 GMT
Check with your insurance NOW about just what they mean by rehad
hospital. In my case, it meant nursing home. I won't do that again. I
got better care at home. But that was me so you just never know.
Harvard Pilgrim was the insurance at the time.
Duckie

> I finally have a date for surgery; Thursday, April 27th.  The doctor is
> still not sure if I will need a partial or a full revision.  Either
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>
> Bonnie
Alix M. Hall - 25 Apr 2006 02:56 GMT
I had a similar situation with a friend of mine--rehab meant nursing
home--which was a horrid disaster--I took her home to my house the next time
and had PT and OT come to the house--much better

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> Check with your insurance NOW about just what they mean by rehad hospital.
> In my case, it meant nursing home. I won't do that again. I got better
> care at home. But that was me so you just never know.
> Harvard Pilgrim was the insurance at the time.
> Duckie
Sunny52 - 25 Apr 2006 12:25 GMT
Thanks, Alix.  As Duckie suggested, I'll call my insurance company
today!

Bonnie
Navy1 - 25 Apr 2006 22:07 GMT
When they did my mom, it was a different wing of the hospital and
everybody there was in for the physical therapy after knee, hip, etc
replacement.

Loujean

>Check with your insurance NOW about just what they mean by rehad
>hospital. In my case, it meant nursing home. I won't do that again. I
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>> Bonnie
Squirrely - 29 Apr 2006 18:27 GMT
Bonnie,

I hope all went well and that you are now on the mend. Sending prayers, good
thoughts and healing vibes your way.

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>I finally have a date for surgery; Thursday, April 27th.  The doctor is
> still not sure if I will need a partial or a full revision.  Either
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>
> Bonnie
Sunny52 - 03 May 2006 15:12 GMT
Thank you!

I came home yesterday a little battered, and very sore.

Jan,using the tray table was a great suggestion!  I sat at the edge of
the bed and put my foot on the rung of the table, and I tried to pull
it a little closer to the bed each day.

Duckie, I'm going to try using my husband's rocker glider today.

The hospital looked into Rehab and discovered I would have to go to a
local nursing home.  I wanted no part of that, so I opted for home
services which begin today.

Thanks to everyone for their prayers, good thoughts, wishes and
suggestions.  I'll try to keep you posted.

Love,
Bonnie
Duckie - 04 May 2006 10:37 GMT
So glad we could give you the heads up about 'rehab'. I will opt out of
that for the future. If I lived alone, I might choose nursing home but I
don't.
When I felt like it I marched around and around the inside of the house.
Unfortunately, sometimes I found myself having to do that because the
leg jerks I get [restless leg syndrome] reared itself after the knee
replacement and that was a nightmare. Only way I could get it to stop
was to walk it off. That continued for several months. Boy, right after
the surgery when the leg didn't want to bend and the leg jerks... I kept
screaming out in pain until I could stand and walk. Getting up was an
effort too but all of that passes.
Dancing on this baby now. lol
Duckie

> Thank you!
>
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> Love,
> Bonnie
Sunny52 - 04 May 2006 13:23 GMT
"Getting up was an effort too but all of that passes.
Dancing on this baby now. lol
Duckie"

Lol  I know only too well about the challenges in getting up...  I was
stuck in my husband's rocker glider and could not get up.  My husband
tried to help me up and every time I started to rise out of the chair
and lean forward, the chair went backwards.  He couldn't hang on to me
and hold the chair at the same time.  Soon I was laughing too hard and
had jelly legs.

I cannot dance well, but I hope to be walking better by the end of the
month.

Bonnie
Nann Bell - 05 May 2006 12:55 GMT
> "Getting up was an effort too but all of that passes.
> Dancing on this baby now. lol
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> and hold the chair at the same time.  Soon I was laughing too hard and
> had jelly legs.

LOL!  A good sense of humor is sooooooooo important in healing!

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Jan O'Keeffe - 04 May 2006 16:05 GMT
>>leg jerks I get [restless leg syndrome] reared itself after the knee<<

"Duckie"
I thought I'd lose my mind from RLS after TKR's.  Finally figured out is was
from Oxycontin for pain after the surgery.  No thanks!  Jan O'
Duckie - 05 May 2006 08:48 GMT
Isn't that the worst!!  Really hard to explain to someone who hasn't
been there. RLS is bad enough on a regular basis but with a knee that
doesn't want to bend and it suddenly bends on its own and violently.
ouchie doesn't cover it. lol
Duckie

>>>leg jerks I get [restless leg syndrome] reared itself after the knee<<
>
> "Duckie"
> I thought I'd lose my mind from RLS after TKR's.  Finally figured out is was
> from Oxycontin for pain after the surgery.  No thanks!  Jan O'
Nann Bell - 05 May 2006 12:55 GMT
> So glad we could give you the heads up about 'rehab'. I will opt out of
> that for the future. If I lived alone, I might choose nursing home but I
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> the surgery when the leg didn't want to bend and the leg jerks... I kept
> screaming out in pain until I could stand and walk.

Ouch!  i can't imagine.  RLS is painful enough as it is, but just after a
TKR...... well, I don't really want to think about it.

sigh....... in some households when the wife says she feels twitchy, the
husband thinks things are going to get interesting <weg>, not that the leg
muscles are freaking out.

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Nann Bell - 04 May 2006 13:00 GMT
Welcome home!  It's great to hear things are going well.  I hope you continue
to do well with the home services.

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> Thank you!
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> Love,
> Bonnie
Sunny52 - 04 May 2006 13:27 GMT
"Welcome home!  It's great to hear things are going well.  I hope you
continue
to do well with the home services.

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Nann"

Thanks, Nann.

Bonnie

Squirrely - 11 May 2006 09:15 GMT
Bonnie,

I hope you are healing well. I am sorry I haven't gotten you a card yet. I
have been ill too. Virus, pink eye and tonsilitis. Never a dull moment here.

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  Love and hugs Jo

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> Thank you!
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> Love,
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Sunny52 - 12 May 2006 15:26 GMT
Oh no, Jo!  We have to come up with a potion or a spell to change your
luck around.

I'm fine, so don't worry about me.  Please take care of yourself!!

Love and gentle hugs,
Bonnie
Squirrely - 20 May 2006 07:17 GMT
Bonnie,

Still you take care of yourself. Let me know if you get my luck to change.
;-)

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> Oh no, Jo!  We have to come up with a potion or a spell to change your
> luck around.
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> Love and gentle hugs,
> Bonnie
Sunny52 - 20 May 2006 13:49 GMT
"Still you take care of yourself. Let me know if you get my luck to
change.
;-)

--Love and hugs Jo "

Thanks, Jo.  I am exercising every day, and still struggling to get the
knee to bend beyond 95 degrees.  Not sure what to do next?!

I wish I could get your luck to change, you and Jim need a break!!

Please take of yourselves.

Love,
Bonnie
Nanny - 21 May 2006 01:21 GMT
Bonnie, it doesn't happen overnight.  95% bend is still very good after
surgery.  Nanny
> "Still you take care of yourself. Let me know if you get my luck to
> change.
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> Love,
> Bonnie
Sunny52 - 21 May 2006 03:13 GMT
"Bonnie, it doesn't happen overnight.  95% bend is still very good
after
surgery.  Nanny "

Yes, I know you are right, but I'm very impatient.  lol

Bonnie
Nanny - 23 May 2006 01:56 GMT
Bonnie, when I had my TKR, the worst shock for me post-surgery was to
realize that even though my brain was sending a message to my leg to raise
it, there was no response!  I was soooo relieved to be able to do leg raises
again later.  Nanny
> "Bonnie, it doesn't happen overnight.  95% bend is still very good
> after
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>
> Bonnie
Sunny52 - 23 May 2006 14:25 GMT
"Bonnie, when I had my TKR, the worst shock for me post-surgery was to
realize that even though my brain was sending a message to my leg to
raise
it, there was no response!  I was soooo relieved to be able to do leg
raises
again later.  Nanny"

I have had three knee surgeries, and I have noticed that the muscles
never respond the same after surgery.  I never had trouble doing
straight leg raises until I tried to raise my leg into the CPM machine
three days after surgery.  I was sure my leg was a 12 inches off he
bed, but the therapist said I was raising it about 4 inches! lol

Bonnie
 
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