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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 05 Apr 2006 21:38 GMT
Well I told the doctor today about your comments that it might be one of my
medicines and she said, yes, the Lisinopril could be the culprit, but before
she started futzing with my med cocktail which apparently had been working
well for quite some time she wanted to run me through an upper GI. What I
was describing to her was apparently textbook diverticula or stricture in
the esophagus. My brain did a double-take on that one....diverticula in the
throat?! She explained it well enough, though, that it could well be that. I
have the scan next Tuesday at a local hospital.

We'll see what the pictures show.

DeeTee
Gary & Ellie - 06 Apr 2006 01:59 GMT
Dee,
That is what I was gonna suggest it might be.  I work with a
gastroenterologist in Columbia, Md.  I'm not sure about the diverticula
but it sounds alot like maybe a Schatzki's Ring.  It actually could just
be Acid Reflux.  If it continues, they can do a procedure to place a
Bravo capsule and measure the amount of acid.  Hope that helps.
Ellie

> Well I told the doctor today about your comments that it might be one of my
> medicines and she said, yes, the Lisinopril could be the culprit, but before
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> DeeTee
Ann - 06 Apr 2006 02:28 GMT
Now that I think it over, this makes more sense than the Lisinopril.
First, you have been on it for some time with no bad results where I was
only on it a few weeks.  Second, my dry cough was not half an hour after
eating, but when I would lie down and sometimes would wake me up at
night.
Good luck with the test and let us know what results.

Ann
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 06 Apr 2006 12:26 GMT
Yes and they did find an abnormality in the valve separating the esophagus
from the small intestine when they did my last upper GI. The doc then said
that if I had any further problems, they would have to become agressive. I
still have the pictures they gave me of the "bump" on the valve.

DeeTee

> Dee,
> That is what I was gonna suggest it might be.  I work with a
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>> DeeTee
Nann Bell - 06 Apr 2006 02:48 GMT
> Well I told the doctor today about your comments that it might be one of my
> medicines and she said, yes, the Lisinopril could be the culprit, but before
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>
> DeeTee

My dad had an esophageal stricture - I thougght of that when I saw your
message this morning, but figured you'd be off to the docs before anything I
said made it to you.  Also, Daddy used to get the coughing spells WHILE he
was eating, especially if he tried to swallow a larger bite or something that
wasn't thoroughly chewed up.  He had the stricture dilated several times with
good results.  Last time round the doc put him on something (on of the "P"
stomach meds, but I forget now which one) and that kept him from needing
another dilation.  That was good, as that was when he'd had a coughing fit
during breakfast the morning after his cardiac angio and he coughed so hard
he dislodged his clot!  Cost him another day in the hospital and he was black
and blue down to the knee.

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tsedinger@yahoo.com - 06 Apr 2006 22:42 GMT
Lisinopril is notorious for causing coughing or a feeling that you have
cotton in your throat. I take it and have never had a problem. But,
everyone else that I know that have tried it, have had to quit because
of the coughing.
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 07 Apr 2006 02:58 GMT
Yes, but I've been on the Lisinopril for years and the cough has only been
here for about 2-3 months. Also, I only seem to cough and hack within about
30 minutes of a meal, sometimes less. When the doc asked if I had a chronic
sore throat I had to say yes and I also have chronic sinusitis...which
seemed to be another on their list. We'll see what the xrays show next week.

DeeTee

> Lisinopril is notorious for causing coughing or a feeling that you have
> cotton in your throat. I take it and have never had a problem. But,
> everyone else that I know that have tried it, have had to quit because
> of the coughing.
Squirrely - 07 Apr 2006 03:14 GMT
wishing you the best results from the testing. Hope you find an answer.

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> Yes, but I've been on the Lisinopril for years and the cough has only been
> here for about 2-3 months. Also, I only seem to cough and hack within
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>> everyone else that I know that have tried it, have had to quit because
>> of the coughing.
Jo Firey - 07 Apr 2006 03:30 GMT
> Yes, but I've been on the Lisinopril for years and the cough has only been
> here for about 2-3 months. Also, I only seem to cough and hack within
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>
> DeeTee

Just a thought.  Is it only after a hot meal?  I'm thinking hot food could
loosen up your sinuses just enough to get some drainage going, and that
would make you cough.

You're right, the timing and the Lisinopril don't make sense.

Jo
Nanny - 08 Apr 2006 01:54 GMT
Jo, I don't know about DeeTee, but I cough after every meal, hot or cold,
and after some drinks, even water at times.  Nanny

>> Yes, but I've been on the Lisinopril for years and the cough has only
>> been here for about 2-3 months. Also, I only seem to cough and hack
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> Jo
Plantmistress - 10 Apr 2006 17:22 GMT
My mother & I have always had coughing spells after eating (especially
breakfast), but not usually as severe as everyone here is writing
about.  I have PsA, but Mom has no artritis of any kind yet.  Not sure
if this helps or hurts the debate about coughing being related to
arthritis, just thought I should share.

Shannon

> Jo, I don't know about DeeTee, but I cough after every meal, hot or cold,
> and after some drinks, even water at times.  Nanny
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> > Jo
Harvey R. Stone - 10 Apr 2006 18:01 GMT
> My mother & I have always had coughing spells after eating (especially
> breakfast), but not usually as severe as everyone here is writing
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>
> Shannon

Hi All,   With inflam.arth.,,,, there is a lung condition where it ends up
with a dry raspy sound that your RD can hear and know what is taking place.
     If a person can get that arthritis can cause lung problems,,,,,,, they
are stretching the facts and a plus b equals C does not apply in this case.
Harv
d'huit - 11 Apr 2006 22:05 GMT
what did the scan show, sweetie?

kate
Well I told the doctor today about your comments that it might be one of my
medicines and she said, yes, the Lisinopril could be the culprit, but before
she started futzing with my med cocktail which apparently had been working
well for quite some time she wanted to run me through an upper GI. What I
was describing to her was apparently textbook diverticula or stricture in
the esophagus. My brain did a double-take on that one....diverticula in the
throat?! She explained it well enough, though, that it could well be that. I
have the scan next Tuesday at a local hospital.

We'll see what the pictures show.

DeeTee
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 12 Apr 2006 03:03 GMT
Had to reschedule. I had a sore throat Sunday night and thought it was just
overworking at choir practice (one of our pieces for next Sunday is the
Hallelujah Chorus and I'm a first soprano). Monday I was in pain all day
with really bad sore throat. I called our dentist to ask if he still wanted
me in with possible strep and his receptionist said she'd have called me
anyway 'cause doctor had a death in his family. So rescheduled that for next
Monday. This morning woke up still feeling crappy and called the imaging
center and told them I might have strep. They rescheduled me for next
Tuesday. I immediately hung up and called my doctor's office and got an
appointment for today. Went in and the strep test was negative but she said
I had a really good (or bad) sinus infection going on. So it's another
Z-pack. She also prescribed Claritin but the pharmacy said that was OTC and
got me a box of them. So, long story short, won't know until next week why I
keep coughing. And with the drainage from the sinus infection, I'm coughing
nearly constantly so my costachrondritis is acting up now, too.  I'm a poor
me....

On a brighter note - we put in an offer on the house and are now waiting for
the answer. There are at least three other bidders and our bid stated that
we needed a yes or no vote by Monday so we won't have to wait too long to
find out.

Love ya!! DeeTee

> what did the scan show, sweetie?
>
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>
> DeeTee
d'huit - 12 Apr 2006 03:29 GMT
((((((((((((deetee))))))))))))) oh, ow!  your poor ribs!

handel's?  that's such a challenging piece for a first sop's voice.  i can
see why you thought you overworked your voice.  we had an all district choir
that my brother (tenor) and i (mezzo--actually, i sang everything from first
sop to alto back then.  but they needed more strong 2nds in that choir and i
was loud.LOL) used to sing in (along with 300 other kids LOL) in high
school.  that piece was one of our favs.

crossing my fingers that you get your dream house for the price you want!
and i sure hope you feel better soon, sweetie.

kate

Had to reschedule. I had a sore throat Sunday night and thought it was just
overworking at choir practice (one of our pieces for next Sunday is the
Hallelujah Chorus and I'm a first soprano). Monday I was in pain all day
with really bad sore throat. I called our dentist to ask if he still wanted
me in with possible strep and his receptionist said she'd have called me
anyway 'cause doctor had a death in his family. So rescheduled that for next
Monday. This morning woke up still feeling crappy and called the imaging
center and told them I might have strep. They rescheduled me for next
Tuesday. I immediately hung up and called my doctor's office and got an
appointment for today. Went in and the strep test was negative but she said
I had a really good (or bad) sinus infection going on. So it's another
Z-pack. She also prescribed Claritin but the pharmacy said that was OTC and
got me a box of them. So, long story short, won't know until next week why I
keep coughing. And with the drainage from the sinus infection, I'm coughing
nearly constantly so my costachrondritis is acting up now, too.  I'm a poor
me....

On a brighter note - we put in an offer on the house and are now waiting for
the answer. There are at least three other bidders and our bid stated that
we needed a yes or no vote by Monday so we won't have to wait too long to
find out.

Love ya!! DeeTee

> what did the scan show, sweetie?
>
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>
> DeeTee
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 12 Apr 2006 22:38 GMT
Yes - well, we have three sopranos who routinely show up to practice. One
does not read music and the other just moved here so has only been to the
one practice. I competed at state high school level with larangytis so I
will be there this Sunday, but....

DeeTee

> ((((((((((((deetee))))))))))))) oh, ow!  your poor ribs!
>
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>> DeeTee
Navy1 - 13 Apr 2006 20:59 GMT
I have met so many people that say they can't read music.  Most of
them are thinking of perfect pitch.  If you can look at a sheet of
music and tell whether the note goes higher or lower, you are reading
music.  I couldn't convince the choir I was directing either, so....
I used to sing soprano back when I was a child in the far distant
1940's and 1950's, but later on found I was more comfortable in the
alto range.  

Loujean

>Yes - well, we have three sopranos who routinely show up to practice. One
>does not read music and the other just moved here so has only been to the
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>>> DeeTee
Joan Carter - 13 Apr 2006 21:19 GMT
>I couldn't convince the choir I was directing either, so....
>I used to sing soprano back when I was a child in the far distant
>1940's and 1950's, but later on found I was more comfortable in the
>alto range.  

There are more singers here than I have ever seen in one place. :-) The
Hallelujah Chorus is a favourite of mine too. I haven't been in a choir for five
years and miss it, but I also sang alto. <bows to all the other altos> :-)
---
Joan
ladylove77 - 14 Apr 2006 03:39 GMT
Joan, I used to sing alto in church choirs too, and I still hear the alto.
But I've had so many upper resperatory (sp)
infections that now I can't sing anything.  Also don't have the breath to
sing any more.  Really miss it.
Gwen

> On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:59:26 GMT, Navy1 <medical23FISHkidoo@sc.rr.com>
> wrote in
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> ---
> Joan
Joan Carter - 14 Apr 2006 04:58 GMT
>Joan, I used to sing alto in church choirs too, and I still hear the alto.
>But I've had so many upper resperatory (sp)
>infections that now I can't sing anything.  Also don't have the breath to
>sing any more.  Really miss it.

So do I, Gwen. People with arthritis must be really musical. :-)
---
Joan
Nann Bell - 14 Apr 2006 20:44 GMT
> So do I, Gwen. People with arthritis must be really musical. :-)
> ---
> Joan

Interesting theory - my dad and his mom were both quite musical and both had
RA.  Then again, everyone else in my family is also musical, but they've
opted for other autoimmune stuff over the arthritis  ;-)

The thing that has ticked me off most about my costochondritis is the
limitations it has placed on singing for me.  Fighting sinus crud was bad
enough, but enduring major physical pain in order to sing is too much.  As
the daughter of a church organist, it tore me up to be totally unable to sing
in church for 6 months running.  It's only been since Enbrel that I've been
able, once again, to sing all the hymns in one of our church services.  Still
ache by the end though.

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Squirrely - 14 Apr 2006 07:17 GMT
Dee Tee,

sorry to hear about your costo being activated too. I feel for you. I sure
hope you heal up quickly. Take care and know I am thinking of you.

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Harvey R. Stone - 14 Apr 2006 13:12 GMT
> Joan, I used to sing alto in church choirs too, and I still hear the alto.
> But I've had so many upper resperatory (sp)
> infections that now I can't sing anything.  Also don't have the breath to
> sing any more.  Really miss it.
> Gwen

Yes,,,, once you have taken part with all the work it takes,,,, you miss it
when its gone.   IMO 2d sup and also are the hardest parts to sing.   My
youngest daughter could always hear a part and then just sing it.  I was
amazed at this ability.   Something she liked would come on the radio and
she would sing along with it with a couple of notes down from the main part.
   She it home for a couple more days.  I am going to get her to do that
again just for old times.
Harv
Nann Bell - 12 Apr 2006 03:47 GMT
> keep coughing. And with the drainage from the sinus infection, I'm coughing
> nearly constantly so my costachrondritis is acting up now, too.  I'm a poor
> me....

((((((((DeeTee))))))))  I hear you on the coughing and costochondritis.  
Ouch!  and you need to be able to sing 1st sop on Sunday?  I hope the ribcage
calms down some before then.  I've sung all the middle parts on the
Hallelujah chorus - 2nd sop, alto, tenor - now I get really confused if I
odn't have the music in front of me!  LOL

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Navy1 - 12 Apr 2006 21:08 GMT
DeeTee - sorry about your cough, I just went thru three months of it -
it seems to be calming down now, but the Pulmonologist didn't know
what it was - lungs were clear.  I guess it could some weird allergy,
but ............well, you know.  

((((((((((((((((DeeTee)))))))))))))))))

Me, too.  I've sung it for 30 years and I still have to look at the
alto part for the Hallelujah chorus.

Loujean

>> keep coughing. And with the drainage from the sinus infection, I'm coughing
>> nearly constantly so my costachrondritis is acting up now, too.  I'm a poor
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>Hallelujah chorus - 2nd sop, alto, tenor - now I get really confused if I
>odn't have the music in front of me!  LOL
Harvey R. Stone - 12 Apr 2006 23:10 GMT
> DeeTee - sorry about your cough, I just went thru three months of it -
> it seems to be calming down now, but the Pulmonologist didn't know
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>
> Loujean

As do we all,,,,  Just think,,,, I first learned it as a baritone and then
the last time as a bass.   A good elbow in the ribs will get a person back
on the right part.  LOLOLOL It truly is great music and one of a kind.
Harv
Navy1 - 13 Apr 2006 21:00 GMT
>> DeeTee - sorry about your cough, I just went thru three months of it -
>> it seems to be calming down now, but the Pulmonologist didn't know
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>on the right part.  LOLOLOL It truly is great music and one of a kind.
>Harv

I think it is one of the most beautiful pieces of music.  I understand
he wrote it in 30 days!

Loujean
Duckie - 13 Apr 2006 06:52 GMT
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Duckie

> Had to reschedule. I had a sore throat Sunday night and thought it was just
> overworking at choir practice (one of our pieces for next Sunday is the
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>>
>>DeeTee
 
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